You know what isn't dark, gritty or brings up ethical concerns upon its death of the heros?Unless it's real robot. >.> <.<
You know what isn't dark, gritty or brings up ethical concerns upon its death of the heros?Unless it's real robot. >.> <.<
<Snipped quote by Asura> Unless it's real robot. >.> <.<Don't worry. I know how to handle AI.
@The PatriarchOkays, let's see... Firstly, The Joker is not a great villain because he's a psychotic killer. He's a great villain because his madcap lunacy is the perfect foil for Batman's gruff, dour seriousness. He's a great villain because he's incredibly versatile, going from a buffoonish character who just wants to hit Batman with a pie in public one day and deciding to torch a bus full of orphans the next. He's a great villain because he has a striking motif and appearance, and was doing the whole "evil clown" thing before it became a fad. He's a great villain because he's capable of matching wits with Batman, and is constantly trying to push him into a situation that makes the Bat admit he's a madman like himself (which... Isn't so far from the truth, since Batman is arguable just as crazy as the villains he fights, just far more functional). A lot of classic Joker stories don't actually hinge on him just murdering people. I mean the Killing Joke has him kill one, maybe two people in a plan that hinges solely around driving Gordon insane and it's generally regarded as one of (if not the) best Joker stories. And a lot of the time even if he is just killing people right and left, there's more to it than just senseless carnage. ...In fact it's very rarely senseless carnage. Either he's trying to make a point, or he's doing it for comedy value (he is a clown, after all). He's the kind of character who you laugh at, but then cringe and wonder if you really should have laughed. And even though he suffers from an immense misaimed fandom (super-sanity, anyone? Makes me roll my eyes anytime someone seriously suggests the concept), he still has little backlash from the superhero fanbase. He wouldn't be so well-regarded if he was just a psychotic murderer who just happens to look like a clown. ...Anyways, the other thing. The villains thing. Um, see, I've been doing this online RP thing for a loooong time. Cut my teeth on Digimon RPs back in the late 90's (yes, I'm an old crone ;_;). And one thing I've noticed is that when people try to make villains, a lot of the time they kind of... Miss the entire point of a villain. It's hard to explain, but... A lot of the time they just end up being kind of one-dimensional. That statement about "he's a villain so he can rampantly murder whenever he wants!" brings up bad memories of characters that were less foils for the heroes and interesting characters in their own right and more... Adolescent power fantasies and misanthropes trying to be as awful as possible without any comeuppance they would recieve in the real world. I mean I'm not saying that's what your character is, it's just that the statement reminds of so many awful villain characters I've encountered over the years. Half of them wouldn't look out of place in a 90's Image comic (or its spiritual successor, the New 52). I've just grown pretty jaded towards player-controlled villains in RPs, I guess, and not just because a lot of the time they don't really get to do much other than sit on the sidelines waiting for their turn to do villainy to pop up. I dunno, maybe I'm just not as cut-out for superhero RPs as I'd like to be. I think the main problem is that most people seem to want to focus on grim 'n' gritty realism and basically roleplay the Dark Knight trilogy, whilst I want to do things more like the Marvel cinema universe, or the Big Hero 6 film, or... Not going to say like the silver age because that's often too focussed on wackiness without actually telling a coherent story, but... I guess more emphasis on fantastical elements, as well as making the heroes act like, well, heroes. I dunno, I feel like I'm babbling here and I really should get off my soapbox, but yeah.I feel you there, Rin. Even though I have never met before this and we know almost nothing about each other it is almost like we have run into the same types of people. It seems that when a player is given control of a story villain all they want to do is cause as much mayhem as they can before their gig is up. They go and blowup a bus, no a school and in one case I had their intro psot had them destroy half of the business district... I was like "No, Out." (There was one time that I played with this group that had players on both sides which made it better because they could then collaborate on plots.) When I was in control of a villain I had an over arcing plan that I played out and tried to gather resources and set up traps. instead of causing mayhem and killing everyone I can I would try to force the hero characters into moral dilemmas when facing me such as having to chose to catch me and stop the overall suffering of the city or save a friend/stop a horrific event. I believe this forces character development of can cause the Character to change his views on what is right or wrong. This is a lot of what Batman would have to go through with Joker as he tried to show Batman how alike they are in what they think.
@The PatriarchOkays, let's see... Firstly, The Joker is not a great villain because he's a psychotic killer. He's a great villain because his madcap lunacy is the perfect foil for Batman's gruff, dour seriousness. He's a great villain because he's incredibly versatile, going from a buffoonish character who just wants to hit Batman with a pie in public one day and deciding to torch a bus full of orphans the next. He's a great villain because he has a striking motif and appearance, and was doing the whole "evil clown" thing before it became a fad. He's a great villain because he's capable of matching wits with Batman, and is constantly trying to push him into a situation that makes the Bat admit he's a madman like himself (which... Isn't so far from the truth, since Batman is arguable just as crazy as the villains he fights, just far more functional). A lot of classic Joker stories don't actually hinge on him just murdering people. I mean the Killing Joke has him kill one, maybe two people in a plan that hinges solely around driving Gordon insane and it's generally regarded as one of (if not the) best Joker stories. And a lot of the time even if he is just killing people right and left, there's more to it than just senseless carnage. ...In fact it's very rarely senseless carnage. Either he's trying to make a point, or he's doing it for comedy value (he is a clown, after all). He's the kind of character who you laugh at, but then cringe and wonder if you really should have laughed. And even though he suffers from an immense misaimed fandom (super-sanity, anyone? Makes me roll my eyes anytime someone seriously suggests the concept), he still has little backlash from the superhero fanbase. He wouldn't be so well-regarded if he was just a psychotic murderer who just happens to look like a clown. ...Anyways, the other thing. The villains thing. Um, see, I've been doing this online RP thing for a loooong time. Cut my teeth on Digimon RPs back in the late 90's (yes, I'm an old crone ;_;). And one thing I've noticed is that when people try to make villains, a lot of the time they kind of... Miss the entire point of a villain. It's hard to explain, but... A lot of the time they just end up being kind of one-dimensional. That statement about "he's a villain so he can rampantly murder whenever he wants!" brings up bad memories of characters that were less foils for the heroes and interesting characters in their own right and more... Adolescent power fantasies and misanthropes trying to be as awful as possible without any comeuppance they would recieve in the real world. I mean I'm not saying that's what your character is, it's just that the statement reminds of so many awful villain characters I've encountered over the years. Half of them wouldn't look out of place in a 90's Image comic (or its spiritual successor, the New 52). I've just grown pretty jaded towards player-controlled villains in RPs, I guess, and not just because a lot of the time they don't really get to do much other than sit on the sidelines waiting for their turn to do villainy to pop up. I dunno, maybe I'm just not as cut-out for superhero RPs as I'd like to be. I think the main problem is that most people seem to want to focus on grim 'n' gritty realism and basically roleplay the Dark Knight trilogy, whilst I want to do things more like the Marvel cinema universe, or the Big Hero 6 film, or... Not going to say like the silver age because that's often too focussed on wackiness without actually telling a coherent story, but... I guess more emphasis on fantastical elements, as well as making the heroes act like, well, heroes. I dunno, I feel like I'm babbling here and I really should get off my soapbox, but yeah.But that's what's fun, not every hero needs to be morally righteous, i like variety. Superman is one of my favorite heroes, but I also love stuff like the Suicide Squad. I'm not picky with comics, I just understand the concept of diversity and that there is no true way to tell a story. There's room for good superheroes and anti heroes as well as insane villains on my shelf. Anyway Bolt is inspired off of Deadpool he just has different powers and is not as invincible. Also he's russian, I don't about any of you, but I find Russian characters really fun to play
You know what isn't dark, gritty or brings up ethical concerns upon its death of the heros?Velrus can help with this. He might fail, or there may be a self-destruct button on the robot's butt, but he can help with this.
@KriticalKrab Okay, if it is alright I will get on changing the Bio tonight to give him a place of origin. You are fine with the construction and reconstruction then? @Rin OMG, I grew up on the 90's Batman show! It was (And still is) one of my favorite TV shows!Yes I suppose I am okay with the construction times, he's not exactly superman level, so I think that it's acceptable. I remember as a kid I only had 1 or 2 episodes of that show, but it was still my favorite show.