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Hidden 10 yrs ago Post by Zoldyck
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Submarines wont be added into the game because they will add nothing good to it.

Atm these are the counters in WoWS:

Cruisers at range>Destroyers and aircraft
BB>Cruiser
Carrier>BB
Destroyer>Everything except for cruisers at range.
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DDs actually have to get in pretty close to do most of their damage, since they rely on torps to deal damage. The Carrier advantage is also nullified by decent AA. Cruisers do pretty well on average, and can lay down punishing accurate fire on BBs from range, but if the BB actually hits them they will be wishing to be somewhere else. It's not quite as "rock paper scissors" as it seems to be.
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To me the game seems rock/paper/scissors, but not in the usual class > class way. Basically, certain classes beat certain classes depending on range and tactics. A destroyer can wreck face with surprise tactics and short range, but if a battleship sees it then that's it for the destroyer. A carrier can handle almost anything at long range, but the moment any ship at all gets close up it's sunk. Cruisers, being the jack of all trades that they are, can use almost battleship-like tactics combined with mobility to take out nearly anything. Unless, of course, that anything is a battleship. That's the way I see it, of course. I'll need some practice to actually figure out the system.
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Yeah, that's about it really. It's surprisingly balanced and well made for a Wargaming product, which makes me hopeful for the full release when it's ready.
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Yeah, that's about it really. It's surprisingly balanced and well made for a Wargaming product, which makes me hopeful for the full release when it's ready.


Good to hear, all I've seen are a few short clips.

Short clips of the Yamato.
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The Yamato's basic stats were indeed on top of most, if not all other battleships, however, they did not have the technological advantage. That belonged to the US in the pacific theater. Granted, when you get battleships such as the Yamato into close combat, where range technology plays no role, you are pretty fucking scr00d, but I still hold firm belief in either the Montana or the german Battleships, mainly due to historic record.
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The Yamato's basic stats were indeed on top of most, if not all other battleships, however, they did not have the technological advantage. That belonged to the US in the pacific theater.


The edge the American BBs had was that they had a better firing control, AA and they had a better radar. The Yamato had better armour and firepower. But in comparison the Bismarck class had firing control which was on par with 1945 American BBs. And the Bismarck is probably gonna be the tier 7 German BB... Imagine the tier 10 one! :D
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I can't, mainly because the Bismark and Tirpitz were the greatest battleships the kriegsmarinen fielded.
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I can't, mainly because the Bismark and Tirpitz were the greatest battleships the kriegsmarinen fielded.


Yes, but there were multiple designs for even bigger BBs. Heck, some sources state that the Bismarck and Tirpitz were Battlecruisers. In the Kriegsmarine they were classified as pocket-batttleships. There had been plans for bigger ships like the Von Moltke class, which would have been on par with the Yamato.
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Oh, certainly, I thought that this game would be based on ships that actually did sail, but then again, that would maybe be a bit too bare for the game.
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Oh, certainly, I thought that this game would be based on ships that actually did sail, but then again, that would maybe be a bit too bare for the game.


Well, in the Beta there are already ships which didnt exist. Like the tier 4 Japanese BB.
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<Snipped quote by KaiserAuto>

Well, in the Beta there are already ships which didnt exist. Like the tier 4 Japanese BB.


There's only so much you can do for a tech tree with existing ships. At some point they have to use paper-ships.
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I haven't stayed too in-depth in my overview of the game.
I simply hope that the H-44 won't make it in game, I pray to the gods.
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I haven't stayed too in-depth in my overview of the game.
I simply hope that the H-44 won't make it in game, I pray to the gods.


Pff... It only has 8 × 50.8 cm (20.0 in) guns...
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So... What was that all about? ^
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<Snipped quote by KaiserAuto>

Pff... It only has 8 × 50.8 cm (20.0 in) guns...


Yay bigger guns! *Torpedoes H-44 from submarine* Now what were you saying?
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Yay bigger guns! *Torpedoes H-44 from submarine* Now what were you saying?


Too bad there will never be subs in WoWS.
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But everyone needs submarines... :(

Oh well, I don't play it anyways.
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But everyone needs submarines... :(

Oh well, I don't play it anyways.


Subs would only be annoying to fight against and boring to play with in WoWS.
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