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You can keep Light the way she is if you want but at the end of the day, she is still going to lose every single fight she's put into. We were offering you the chance to change her so that she could actually have the potential of winning a fight. Due to the fact that there is no real risk when Light actually fights, we can't offer you any reward for it; understand? Light cannot really be permanently injured nor can she be killed so the worst she'll ever have after a fight is a deflated spirit due to her loss. So there you go - put a bit of risk into Light fighting and you'll get the reward. If you don't want the risk, you don't get the reward. Simple.

And yet you don't help the main problem I'm having, I have to do all the thinking, even the nerfing, while still keeping the character Deadpool-like, and any solution I come up with you guys don't like because no one can think past "Punch it til it dies" or wants to give any ideas besides "I don't like it, do something else!". Heck, when Bee tried to end that fun beach arc after 5 posts, I gave him reasons as to why what he did wasn't very good and how to still do what he wanted to do, but in a way that wasn't so intrusive. It would be awesome if you guys could do that sorta thing.

As for all the other people, I don't really care what they have for powers if its used to make a fun story. Its a bloody superhero RP and in the end how the power is used is dictated by the OOC and never the IC.

@Raijinslayer That's a pretty crazy power, quicksilver literally ran so fast he ran faster then time, he was invulnerable not effected by the force of objects. Like when he pushes the bullet aside. Maybe just increasing his reflexes allowing him to react faster than a human can blink or a camera can take a photo not slowing down or stopping time. Spiders do it, pretty awesome.

But I'm not a GM or a CO-GM so I suppose it's up to them.

@Archmage MC Hey i look at everyone's super powers and think, how could i abuse that and is that realistic for a meta human to be able to physically do that.

We have a metal manipulator but he never said what kinds of metals he can control, so anything metal or metalic.

And the GM can manipulate plasma, plasma is ridiculously hot. Though plasma is highly conductive so one bolt of electricity will fry him, though it cannot be a bolt of lightning because that is plasma as well and he can manipulate it. Though i assume he just meant he could control fire, not plasma.

I used to be apart of a super realist Super hero rp on the old RPG lots of rules and realistic super powers. Not trying to poo poo on peoples powers but some things are beyond possible even in a world where people can project their souls or read minds.

Though as I said before the GM has the final say.

@Archmage MC Hey i look at everyone's super powers and think, how could i abuse that and is that realistic for a meta human to be able to physically do that.

We have a metal manipulator but he never said what kinds of metals he can control, so anything metal or metalic.

And the GM can manipulate plasma, plasma is ridiculously hot. Though plasma is highly conductive so one bolt of electricity will fry him, though it cannot be a bolt of lightning because that is plasma as well and he can manipulate it. Though i assume he just meant he could control fire, not plasma.

I used to be apart of a super realist Super hero rp on the old RPG lots of rules and realistic super powers. Not trying to poo poo on peoples powers but some things are beyond possible even in a world where people can project their souls or read minds.

Though as I said before the GM has the final say.

I'm pretty much just using stuff out of the Marvel universe for balance or a standpoint. And Light still does less than Deadpool or Wolverine who people are fine with. I mean, this RP takes place mostly in urban or industrial enviorments. I'm pretty sure a steel cable or a chain or a box is pretty easy to come across. Or heck, a rope and an iron nail.

But yeah, others have some pretty powerful bits and no one is complaining about them because they aren't defensive. I bet I could make a character that uses portals and people here would accept it, even though that character would be able to OHKO everyone and everything instantly, just because it isn't defensive.

@Archmage MC My character is a teleporter so easy to abuse. Teleport a pencil into your heart? Easy. Teleport your brain from your skull? Easy.

Though i regret saying this above just thought i'd put it out there.

What was your characters power? Just curious to see how op it really is.

@NarcissisticPotato It's been a while Potate!

Hey Savato! I know, it's been way too long! >.< Glad the gang is back together though!

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And yet you don't help the main problem I'm having, I have to do all the thinking, even the nerfing, while still keeping the character Deadpool-like, and any solution I come up with you guys don't like because no one can think past "Punch it til it dies" or wants to give any ideas besides "I don't like it, do something else!". Heck, when Bee tried to end that fun beach arc after 5 posts, I gave him reasons as to why what he did wasn't very good and how to still do what he wanted to do, but in a way that wasn't so intrusive. It would be awesome if you guys could do that sorta thing.

As for all the other people, I don't really care what they have for powers if its used to make a fun story. Its a bloody superhero RP and in the end how the power is used is dictated by the OOC and never the IC.

I think Deadpool is a really awkward character to base your character on considering he had a comic series entirely dedicated to him killing off all the other characters in the Marvel Universe but I digress. People will generally have a problem whenever they're faced with a character that they can either: a) punch and literally do nothing to them, kinda or b) put in a box and hope they don't bother themselves to try and escape the box. Once they escape said box we go back to the same loop as above. Anyhow, I do know what you mean that we're not really offering any creative ways for you to change your character without abandoning the premise of the character so I'll try to address that.

First of all, personally I don't mind her being functionally immortal as long as there is some cost. Maybe if we change it so Light actually can be killed but she simply reatomises or add some stupid scientific thingy ma blobber like that. The time between her actually being dead and coming back can be a few hours. From then, we could work on something happening when she does die so it's not just some enforced time-out period for Light. Maybe if we take a leaf out of the book of an anime called Log Horizon? In it, everyone is functionally immortal as they simply respawn upon dying but there is a cost - they begin to lose their memories. Initially, the first few deaths don't cause any sort of loss but as the person keeps dying, vast swathes of information is cut from their memory. Just killing Light and having her come back would be the same as it is now but instead, we'd add a cost were if Light dies continually, she risks forgetting who she is. Risk = reward, remember?

@NarcissisticPotato DID YOU SAY SCIENCE?! Oh and Log Horizon is awesome!

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Maybe if we change it so Light actually can be killed but she simply reatomises or add some stupid scientific thingy ma blobber like that. The time between her actually being dead and coming back can be a few hours.

There was a marvel character if i can remember called nitro, who literally blew himself off then reassembled himself. You could have light's power like jack harkness's power he cant actually die either but he still feels it and it takes him a while to regrow everything.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitro_(comics)

Ok how about we step back and take a breath.

Now, archmage, honestly I think it's reasonable to expect you to do the thinking for your character considering she's your character and I don't remember you asking for any help or suggestions. If you did and I just missed it completely then I'm sorry, but getting snippy isn't going to do anything but make the people who just showed up to have fun uncomfortable. Now admittedly vulnerabilities to iron and steel in a city is a pretty significant weakness. Like Tate said, we're just trying to make it so that you don't have to get auto-hit all the time and can actually get some wins under light's belt.

Acer gets to have the final call whenever he wants to chime in.

@Nytefall Basic teleportation of oneself is pretty powerful alone and obviously downplayed when it's ranked as C (Sefia) or B (Your character), but I don't think the focus here is to block off ridiculously easy to exploit powers. Plus you'd have to be severely stupid to lose with it unlimited aha. As long as it isn't borderline Godmod and constant dodging (which is just bad), it should be fine.

My character has arrived on the scene of the crime.

Here's... here's hoping he doesn't just get sawed in half.

@NarcissisticPotato DID YOU SAY SCIENCE?! Oh and Log Horizon is awesome!

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There was a marvel character if i can remember called nitro, who literally blew himself off then reassembled himself. You could have light's power like jack harkness's power he cant actually die either but he still feels it and it takes him a while to regrow everything.

I know! I watched SAO before it and I was really hesitant to go near it but it's amazing! I really loved how the showed the daily life of the people and involved a lot more politics in it! It was a very cool anime!

Those suggestions are appreciated, Nyte, because I really don't know the Marvel Universe that well! :P

@Savato Im just waiting for a darkness manipulator or shadow manipulator. Already got a light manipulatior.

@NarcissisticPotato Jack Harkness's is from torchwood the series. Think doctor who. He was immortal. He couldn't actually die per say. What would happen is that he would take damage then heal from it. He got buried alive and survived and even got blown up. But his body just regrew itself by clawing it's self back together then healing what it couldn't claw back. I'll see if i can find the scene on youtube one sec

I am a massive marvel nerd, BTW.

@Archmage MC My character is a teleporter so easy to abuse. Teleport a pencil into your heart? Easy. Teleport your brain from your skull? Easy.

Though i regret saying this above just thought i'd put it out there.

What was your characters power? Just curious to see how op it really is.

Deadpool regeneration basically. They're fine with Pocket Space, a much slower and easier to counter Deadpool teleporter, 'super' strength, and energy sapping (Which makes her unable to use technology in essence), Basicaly any offensive power they're fine with, but throw in any defensive one and the complaints start rolling in, even when its shown in other media such a defensive power isn't that bad. I even added that iron/silver makes most of these moot and still they think its too much. And yeah, spacial manipulation can be crazy. You can even go further and incorporate quantum physics into it and be able to travel through time at will, although it would be sorta random where you ended up, among other things Quantum Physics can allow you to do.

@NarcissisticPotato Now there is an idea I can get behind. Although your saying wasting a giant chunk of time or a good long while of torture aren't risky? Have you ever seen torture before mate?

I can make it that silver causes that sort of effect though sure, with iron being far less pronounced. But I'm not going to give any hints at all how to beat her anymore. I was getting sorta tired with that.

@Nytefall I know a pretty good amount of the Marvel universe, but thats mostly from the games/aniamted stuff/moives. I know very little about the comics because lets face it, They are... weird. Fun, but super weird. Like the aforementioned Deadpool kills all of Marvel in an alternate universe, which is a writer giving Deadpool a mcguffin weapon and having fun with it. I know more about DC due to Justice League and the DCAU being so well done, but I don't like it as much because Superman is a thing, even though DCAU Superman was probably the most balanced he ever was. Gods and Monsters superman was pretty cool though since he wasn't so boyscout-y

@Archmage MC If you traveled through time you would end up creating a Loop. Or so the theory goes.

@NarcissisticPotato Jack Harkness's is from torchwood the series. Think doctor who. He was immortal. He couldn't actually die per say. What would happen is that he would take damage then heal from it. He got buried alive and survived and even got blown up. But his body just regrew itself by clawing it's self back together then healing what it could claw back. I'll see if i can find the scene on youtube one sec

I am a massive marvel nerd, BTW.

I didn't notice! XD

@NarcissisticPotato Now there is an idea I can get behind. Although your saying wasting a giant chunk of time or a good long while of torture aren't risky? Have you ever seen torture before mate?

I'm not a big, dirty science nerd so I'll let the rebirth thingy be debated by all these other nerds! Anyways, I know I only speak from a third of the GM coalition but that would balance Light out enough for me to be sated and remove the auto-hit thingies. Make that few hours a torturous period if you want - I don't particularly care. It's your character and I'm just a silly little Potato.

The Starchy One saves the day again! Bon voyage or something!

@Archmage MC

See i would torture them proper, chop off the ligaments in your knees so you can't walk the cauterize them very quickly. Then the flaying would begin. I could pull fingernails, teeth, burn your body with fire, electrocute your balls or good old fashion waterboarding. Can't heal the sensation of drowning.

I could make another character whos literally a monster used them in a previous RP, so fun to play them.

Give us that and Light will be accepted.

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@Archmage MC

See i would torture them proper, chop off the ligaments in your knees so you can't walk the cauterize them very quickly. Then the flaying would begin. I could pull fingernails, teeth, burn your body with fire, electrocute your balls or good old fashion waterboarding. Can't heal the sensation of drowning.

This is some Eli shit right here.