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That porn has good music.


Yeah, it's really pretty artwork.
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Well things got intense the last minute. Continuity for the win?
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Hmm. Pretty good, though I think I like their ME!ME!ME! video more. (Totally not because of boobs.)
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Is this video also supposed to have some deep psychological meaning I won't get till someone reads it out to me
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It's about breakups, how the girl doesn't know why or how everything falls apart when she tries to do something about the relationship, despite that she often comes back to those fond memories.

The video connects directly with Me!Me!Me! based on the character's that appear at the end. The boy from the first video appears to have major significance to the girl in the second.
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Is this video also supposed to have some deep psychological meaning I won't get till someone reads it out to me


Let me have a crack at it.

This is a continuity video related to Me!Me!Me! So take that into account for this theory. The girl depicted is the eponymous "Meme" from the previous video, albeit we now see her from her "real" perspective. In this instance she comes across as a merely bored and unfulfilled highschool girl, who escapes into fantasy and imagination to get away from her frankly boring and repetitive life (escapism is a central theme here, as it is a prevalent theory of the boy from Me!Me!Me! As well).

That was that the first half is for. The second half begins with the apparent destruction of the girls "dream world" by introducing the man with the horse. Her knight in shining armor, the one who can make her dreams come true. Make that as you will. This turns Meme into the scantily clad magical idol of this video and the previous video, though in actuality she's merely a sex icon, one that both lures other girls into joining her (turning them into her flowers) and break the spirit of men (that trippy scene where the dude tears himself apart). But for the most part, Meme doesn't gain any enjoyment as her expression decipts. This isn't the fantasy she wants, merely the one she caters towards. She apathetic towards the feelings of other even those who rely and look up to her. She is still unfulfilled and bored.

The third part is short but conveys the final part of the video. The return of Hana and Shu (pink haired girl and big from the last video, respectively) they both fall scheme to Meme's thing; Hana joins Meme in the hopes of having and exciting life like her, and Shuffling becomes enraptured by her fantasies. However Meme knows the two personally and sees first hand just what she did to them, retrospectively at least. Shu gets addicted to the same fantasies and escapism, becoming the Otaku we all know. Hana joins Meme organization, whatever it is, becoming quite successful... but it tears the two apart, and Meme watches with regret that she tore away two happy people because she was just trying to find something meaningful in her life.

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Let me have a crack at it.

This is a continuity video related to Me!Me!Me! So take that into account for this theory. The girl depicted is the eponymous "Meme" from the previous video, albeit we now see her from her "real" perspective. In this instance she comes across as a merely bored and unfulfilled highschool girl, who escapes into fantasy and imagination to get away from her frankly boring and repetitive life (escapism is a central theme here, as it is a prevalent theory of the boy from Me!Me!Me! As well).

That was that the first half is for. The second half begins with the apparent destruction of the girls "dream world" by introducing the man with the horse. Her knight in shining armor, the one who can make her dreams come true. Make that as you will. This turns Meme into the scantily clad magical idol of this video and the previous video, though in actuality she's merely a sex icon, one that both lures other girls into joining her (turning them into her flowers) and break the spirit of men (that trippy scene where the dude tears himself apart). But for the most part, Meme doesn't gain any enjoyment as her expression decipts. This isn't the fantasy she wants, merely the one she caters towards. She apathetic towards the feelings of other even those who rely and look up to her. She is still unfulfilled and bored.

The third part is short but conveys the final part of the video. The return of Hana and Shu (pink haired girl and big from the last video, respectively) they both fall scheme to Meme's thing; Hana joins Meme in the hopes of having and exciting life like her, and Shuffling becomes enraptured by her fantasies. However Meme knows the two personally and sees first hand just what she did to them, retrospectively at least. Shu gets addicted to the same fantasies and escapism, becoming the Otaku we all know. Hana joins Meme organization, whatever it is, becoming quite successful... but it tears the two apart, and Meme watches with regret that she tore away two happy people because she was just trying to find something meaningful in her life.


Now I'm even more interested in exactly what is being said in the lyrics. I know in ME!ME!ME! it was Hana's perspective on what Shu has become so I wonder exactly what this Meme girl is saying.
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More on Meme's character (I would have written more but my last post was entirely done on a cellphone five minutes before class), Meme is what I'd call the "Otaku Girl", but not in the sense that she, like Shu, is a shut in who tries to escape her reality, but rather the type of otaku Girl who specifically caters to male otakus to encourage them to escape their reality. Like the man with the horse, Meme's job is to get people away from their boring world and get them enraptured by their own (See Me!Me!Me!). This was suppose to be Meme's own way of making her life interesting because now she will become wanted by thousands of others online or whatever, but you can tell from her unchanging expression that now she's little more then the sex doll we're all associating her with.

It brings up another character whom some of you may not know, but I'm thinking of Rise from Persona 4: a cheery Idol Singer who chooses to retire from that life to try to strike out on her own. However she has self-image issues because she's wondering if people value Rise as a person or Rise as the Idol, which her Shadow exploits by depicting her a bikini clad whore. I'd think that Meme is going through a similar dilemma where she may look the part of a sex doll, but her heart simply isn't in it. The thing she wanted to do is now nothing more then a job, a boring one that's routine, as pretty as it looks in the light and glitter.

The thing with Meme however is that she never cared. It's a form of depression that many people over look, and attributes to a sin that everyone ignores: Sloth. Otherwise known as Apathy or even Despair. See, what Meme does is, as some would say, "Evil" because she's using her own body to tempt others into sin or whatever. You know, your general grandpa shtick to why you can't wear short-shorts. But Meme stopped caring about such things and does it anyways. All the more shocking when she sees Hana and Shu, knowing that she sent them on a path that will ruin their relationship without meaning too. And it's not that Meme wanted this to happen; it's just that she never thought about it until it was too late.

Me!Me!Me! is a critique on otaku culture, or at least the most popular theories link it to that. I'm a GIRL is another critique, this one directed towards the girls who cater to otaku culture. However it's not venomous and showing that they're blood-sucking temptresses, or at least not intentionally. "Don't hate the player, hate the game" is one thing I would remember when trying to interpret this video. While I'd be easy to blame the girl for dressing and acting so provocatively, Escapism affects males and females, and the video I'm a GIRL exploits the feeling of how some girls feel unwanted by the world due to frankly Masculist values. Meme's first world, as trippy as it was, was fairly innocent. Lots of colors and lots of stuff going on in the background, good for a nice acid trip. But no one accepts that thus it is destroyed. Then the man with the horse arrives, allowing Meme to create that world once again, this time turning the world into her fantasies. But in doing so she tears away at her own values, trading her school uniform for lingerie, and soon tears apart the relationship of others because of what she does.

These video's tend to have some sort of a "Take that" to otakus and those who only see it as "Porn" or just a sexy music video with trippy lyrics and stunning visuals. Maybe that's all they are. Cause all this is just theory and hypothesis, and the creators sure as hell ain't gunna tell us.
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Basically what I saw it as, regardless of whether or not it's a confusing-ass piece of art or some shit like that.
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@Lucius Cypher - What's your interpretation of the black cat?
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@Lucius Cypher - What's your interpretation of the black cat?


My guess is it represents maybe an actual pet, the girl's family, or her friends that she's now neglected. I don't have any evidence to back up this theory though.
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I made a Delta drawing! I tested out rough ink brushes on him, so it looks a bit Grungey in some ways. I hope you like it!





EDIT: The transparent one is smaller than the Full Img version due to Imgur being unable to load it at full size. The full img version is 3000x3000 long/wide!
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My guess is it represents maybe an actual pet, the girl's family, or her friends that she's now neglected. I don't have any evidence to back up this theory though.


What good are you?
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Holy crap that's good! I'll add it to the CS in a bit. Sorry I didn't post today, was busy last minuting papers and stuff. I'll probably read up tonight and write up something after SAT class. Gotta love Delta's blank stare.
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No word out of Stein yet, I guess? I gotta crash now, since it's 1 AM here.
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Holy crap that's good! I'll add it to the CS in a bit. Sorry I didn't post today, was busy last minuting papers and stuff. I'll probably read up tonight and write up something after SAT class. Gotta love Delta's blank stare.
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No word out of Stein yet, I guess?


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@Lucius Cypher - What's your interpretation of the black cat?


"Curiosity killed the cat" basically. The black cat represents the girl's own naivety and wonderment. At the beginning, it was just picking at loose apples but didn't quite take the bite. But after the girl was recruited to become the maniac pixie dream girl, the cat ate a bit of that apple and turned into an utter doll; in more ways then one. Yes the cat and in turn the girl turned into a pretty toy, but that's just the thing; she became a toy, a tool, a puppet, nothing more then a physical component to a larger scheme of things. She'd never realize this of course, because that's what is she suppose to be right? Something cute, something playful, something that everyone would want. But by becoming a doll, by taking that bite, what she could do with her life became so much more limited. All the more horrifying for her when she realizes what she does to others, and knowing that she can't do anything about it any more.
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