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Ok, I'm fine with his powers if they seem to have some limitations. I was just worrying for the Overlord's sake, because it seemed that all Forneus would need to do is just flick his wrist and drown the metal man since he ain't the best swimmer.
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I've decided that I'm okay with a collab if Lucians is okay with it, since it is a response to him.
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Again, I'm going to assert as a co-GM that this is still a scene others can participate in and it's not isolated enough for a collab, and it's also not really necessary.
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It's a conversation.

Just do short posts.
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@Grey Star @Lugubrious

Absolutely, thank you both for being so understanding. Also seeing DIO done right in an RP is perhaps the best thing I've seen this year! Props for getting his personality spot on.

Also I re-etided the post to make it more like Forneus was more or less jumping to conclusions and analyzing the aura of the three rather than "reading their minds".

@invisible man

The water that Forneus creates is artificial and imbued with magic. He wouldn't really to be able to drown the metal man unless if he pushed him into large body of water, or was near one and happened to use Maelstrom.

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I have never done that before, that actually sounds brilliant.

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Hell yes I approve. I haven't had this much fun with the RPers in this place since Legend of the Rudaras.
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It's a conversation.

Just do short posts.


You'd be making so much sense if only you were right. As it was, it wasn't going to be a conversation. Forneus was (still is, actually) bombarding both DIO and Juri with statements, declarations, challenges, observations, and questions. There would be three people reacting to the same thing, and in short posts it'll be janky and desynchronized, without any cooperation or planning. As that is pretty much the nature of RPs, and Vita seems convinced that Forneus needs to jump in for interaction midway through our reactions, it seems there won't be a collab.

Really, it's not my responsibility to encourage sensibility, punctuality, and cohesion. I'll post my piece tomorrow and I'll stop both complaining and offering to do collabs. Sorry to keep making such a fuss.
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My objection is that it's not necessary and that it makes it very difficult for anyone else, in case another person wants to interact, to jump in. There's no need to tie three different people's responses together in one post.

It's not an isolated scene, either. They're all responding independently of one another.

I might not like collab posts, but I can say what they're most suited for is isolated sequences with low numbers of characters. I'm not saying that Forneus should be able to interject between each comment. But this scene is not isolated and three people independently reacting to something does not seem suited to a collaborative post.
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My objection is that it's not necessary and that it makes it very difficult for anyone else, in case another person wants to interact, to jump in. There's no need to tie three different people's responses together in one post.

It's not an isolated scene, either. They're all responding independently of one another.

I might not like collab posts, but I can say what they're most suited for is isolated sequences with low numbers of characters. I'm not saying that Forneus should be able to interject between each comment. But this scene is not isolated and three people independently reacting to something does not seem suited to a collaborative post.


I agree with this, this is why most works of fanfiction fail. The writer either doesn't know how to make more than at least a whole bunch of characters interact to each other accordingly, or just has one character be the center of attention every new paragraph. The reason why the whole Dio and Juri thing worked is because it was two characters who were completely isolated from everyone else and thus that's why it worked in the first place! In this scene there are four people in total, one of which the other three are reacting to- so it only makes sense that multiple posts are needed and not just one big post wouldn't do it justice.
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@Raineh Daze In addition, this forums states that we should write at least one paragraph per post, which naturally discourages posts shorter than a paragraph.
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I don't think anyone was suggesting less than a paragraph. I know I don't like seeing posts less than a paragraph unless it's maybe once or twice from someone who was pressed for time and wanted to keep a scene moving before it flopped and died.

"Short" here still means paragraph or more. It's not free, after all.
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@Grey Star

I'm going to drop out for the time being. I'll probably be back when I have a less hectic schedule at work and out of work. Time to find a new job.
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Ok, so. For anyone wondering, right now we've got the following characters active within the last 14 days





Incidentally, @Flamelord, Super Skrull knows about Garie and I think I'd like to interact, but I've got to get a post up for both him and Clem, and I'm not really sure why they would interact to begin with.

Clementine sooort of knows about her, but there were a lot of generally weird people in the bar that night, so Garie probably didn't stick out as much for Clem.
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Aha! I love Dio's Rebuttle! It has mixed elements of both his own personality, his scumbagish side and I'm unsure if this is what you intended but you got me thinking of Dio's abriged form with the, "Dick-measuring contest." line!

And now to wait for the others to post, this is gonna be good!
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Incidentally, @Flamelord, Super Skrull knows about Garie and I think I'd like to interact, but I've got to get a post up for both him and Clem, and I'm not really sure why they would interact to begin with.

Clementine sooort of knows about her, but there were a lot of generally weird people in the bar that night, so Garie probably didn't stick out as much for Clem.


Yeah, I didn't really include the bar scene since there were a lot of people there. As for meeting, well, I expect the Gm may provide with these people apparently going around and hiring the PC characters for jobs. At least it should give an opportunity depending on what the jobs are.
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I'm unsure how exactly to respond to DIO, I've never had this kind of sitaution where someone devises a well layed insult. I got no ideas! Maybe I should try to write down ideas and think about them.

After some thinking now I think I've got it! I'm just gonna wait for Guru to post and then I think I'll begin.
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I'm unsure how exactly to respond to DIO, I've never had this kind of sitaution where someone devises a well layed insult. I got no ideas! Maybe I should try to write down ideas and think about them.

After some thinking now I think I've got it! I'm just gonna wait for Guru to post and then I think I'll begin.


He could get flustered?
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He could get flustered?


What I was thinking was that for Forneus he would've gotten a bit externally flustered, probably calling out DIO for the need to defend himself when Forneus belives that a being stronger than humans and who has amassed amazing power (The World, he doesn't know about it- he thinks DIO possesses some sort of telekinesis) should have no reason to rebuttle insults at an Abyssal Lord if he does not fear his power. With the cat since it was a creature of the sea, Forneus is- well, really angry. What he would do next is that he would pick up the remains of the cat and absorb her (it being a being of water) then scold DIO for killing a creature of the sea. After that, Forneus would begin to basically say to DIO that "You cast of your humanity to become something you were never destined to be? You're a living disgrace, how dare you take power that is forbidden to humans, you're arrogant etc."

Either that or Forneus would hold his anger, he would admit that DIO is very creative with his insults but they are simply trivial to an Abyssal Lord. He would then absorb the cat, saying that if DIO truly treasured companions- he wouldn't have been so quick to defend his relationship. Then he would take that and say that a true creature of the night would not need to defend himself for that he already knows the greatness of his power, anyone who does is a braggart and is simply abusing the power he is given- much like a corrupt politician.

That or I don't know, I should take this in a new direction.
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Keep in mind that DIO did not audibly defend his relationship. If you're referring to this...
"To reject power and love is not admirable. I have gained these allies, not because I held them at gunpoint or took control of their minds, but because I respect and support them if they do the same for me. That is how the greatest comrades are made.”

He was needling Forneus for his inability to gain allies, much less gain them meaningfully. DIO was also not given power. True, it came from a stone mask, but he wasn't given the stone mask, and even if he would have been, it would have been so that a Pillar Man could feed off him.
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Keep in mind that DIO did not audibly defend his relationship. If you're referring to this...
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He was needling Forneus for his inability to gain allies, much less gain them meaningfully. DIO was also not given power. True, it came from a stone mask, but he wasn't given the stone mask, and even if he would have been, it would have been so that a Pillar Man could feed off him.


Ah, absolutely. Forneus' inability to gain allies is definetley one of his weaknesses, and since DIO basically killed the only ally he had he's pretty upset upset. I went on a walk on a bit and I think that Forneus would most likely scold DIO for hurting such a defenseless creature, and then telling him that such a creature with power has no reason to defend himself against insults if he's already THAT powerful. Plus I just realized since Forneus can read Aura he can most likely see the image of the stand, not that he could harm it- he'd just know of it's existence. It's a law that a stand may only be hurt by another stand or recieve damage equal to that of its user. This is quite a predicament!

I have never seen such a display of writing. It appears that I have hit another plateau, but I won't give! I'll have to figure out something! I just don't know what! Forneus could make an ally out of DIO if he told him that the Death Eclipse would reset the world and if that DIO joined him he could have a high place in the Abyss and even be in charge of the new worlds that it created. But then again, DIO's intentions are to rule over everything are they not? So that wouldn't please him in the slightest.
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Yeah, DIO's not interested in being anyone's subordinate. Forneus's aura sensory power would be enough to sense the Stand's presence and its rough location, but only a Stand user can see other Stands.
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