@Hipster

Wait, why do you hate Tushienia? Goblins are liked and given positions of power here.

@Aristo

Well, I think I speak for everyone when I say that the broader between the Chalezian Union and Tushienia would be tense as all hell. Maybe a slight rewrite of history though?

Before the mundane revolution that changed Chalez into the Chalezian Union, province 11 used to belong to Chalez. Once the revolutionary war was in full swing however, Tushienia seized the opportunity to expand its power and influence (While kicking those arrogant magical elven pricks in the face while doing so) by invading province 11 and conquering it for themselves, destroying both the magical ruling elite and the magic hating rebels alike to do so with a combination of magic, strength of arms, technology and a pretty large army of mindless undead.

If Chalezian Union ever made the attempt to reclaim province 11 before now (Most likely during the height of their mage hating days), that war would have ended in failure for the Union (Because we can't have more then 3 provinces to start with). Provided of course that the Chalezian Union made the attempt to reclaim its former territory.

What do you think?

I think it could be very plausible for Tushiena to take advantage of the civil war, if both sides were concentrating their full attention on each other. However, since your liches arrived here some hundred years ago, I think Chalez would have been suspicious, if not hostile, in response to their sudden appearance near their territory for a very long time. That depends mostly how you want to play their attitudes towards their new neighbor several-hundred years ago and counting. Did they fight in the past, and over what? etc.

If Chalez and the liches were longstanding enemies from the first days of Tush's inception, the attack on 11 seems quite appropriate. But do they have a legitimate cause to fight both the elite and the rebels indiscriminately?

How eager are they to push deeper into Chalezian territory, now that power has been reconsalidated? They've had fifty years to take advantage of a still-developing government. Granted, if Tush was fighting both sides simultaneously, the Union certainly has a sour opinion of them.

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I think it could be very plausible for Tushiena to take advantage of the civil war, if both sides were concentrating their full attention on each other. However, since your liches arrived here some hundred years ago, I think Chalez would have been suspicious, if not hostile, in response to their sudden appearance near their territory for a very long time. That depends mostly how you want to play their attitudes towards their new neighbor several-hundred years ago and counting. Did they fight in the past, and over what? etc.

If Chalez and the liches were longstanding enemies from the first days of Tush's inception, the attack on 11 seems quite appropriate. But do they have a legitimate cause to fight both the elite and the rebels indiscriminately?

How eager are they to push deeper into Chalezian territory, now that power has been reconsalidated? They've had fifty years to take advantage of a still-developing government. Granted, if Tush was fighting both sides simultaneously, the Union certainly has a sour opinion of them.

Considering that the former government was run by arrogant elven pricks who largely looked down on everyone else (Granted humans mages managed to get the rights to do it to, but the elves were doing it longer) then even if over the course of 150 years they had no reason to go to war, it's easy to see why someone would want to strangely the life out of them. If you can steal some good land in the process all the better.

As for why they fought the revolutionaries... that might have had more to do with the fact that they were strongly anti-magic. Keep in mind that the revolutionaries were fighting against being ruled by magic users; I highly doubt that they would have been willing to stand by while a different group of magic users took control.

@Bright_Ops New Gobolia used to be a gigantic Goblin tribe until wait for it...TUSHIENIA (plot twist) Came along and was all like "Join us or die bro" and so New Gobolia decided to leave, and then they were intercepted by a Ork horde and were enslaved for a entire year straight.

So whats not to hate?. Gobolian's blame Tushienia for everything since they took they're land in the first place.

@Hipster

So New Gobolia is 200 hundred years old?

@Bright_Ops

Sawl is actually fairly young comparative to the others, only clocking in at 50 years old

@Bright_Ops the tribe was. the actual New Gobolia is about 1 month old. Too be honest most Goblin's hate Tushienia just because they're ancestors did. and they're ancestors did too. it's kindof like a gamergate propaganda thing. most goblins don't really know why they Hate Tushienia.

@Hipster

Good to know. I guess if they caught wind of just how good the goblins that remained behind had it, the New Gobolia goblins would be pissed.

I just found this and really want to join! Am I too late?

You have literally about an hour to get it up, but if you can manage it in time, then I don't see a reason why not! The more the merrier

NATION

Nation Name: Holy Novgorod Imperium (HNI)

Chosen Colour for Nation: Gold

People of Importance:
Tsar Ventium Corosphyski
Tsarina Alicia Boruno-Corosphyski

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• Humans
• Elves

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Nation History:

From the earliest of days, The Holy Novgorod Imperium can trace its roots back to tribes of humans and clans of elves who were forced into the frozen north to escape the band of marauding orcs and goblins and their shamanistic elemental heathen magics. The foul beasts gave no chase, seeing as they thought the humans and elves would simply die out in such harsh conditions and they very well almost did. Until the Savior Lord came down from the heavens.

It was there, in our darkest hour which the Savior descended from his heavenly paradise to teach us the ways of using his ethereal blessings of light to combat the monstrous heathens who drove us out of our homelands before reducing it to their pits of vile wretchedness. For he gave us strength and unity, naming the first of his chosen prophet: Boris Tyrloffski. This man would become the first Tsar of a new kingdom in the north, allying and unifying others who either had been driven out or called this new Eden their homeland.

Under the banner of the Lord Savior, Tyrloffski lead his army on a crusade against those who violated his peoples, slaughtering all in the name of the Lord Savior, ensuring not one foul beast of an orc, orge or goblin remained. After the First Holy Crusade and the Great Divine Purge of Heathens that followed, the Church of Grace was founded and from that, the basis of the Holy Novgorod Imperium.

Now, generations later, the Imperium is as religious and traditional as ever, self proclaimed bastions of the light and good under the banned of Golden Bird of their Lord Savior. Some say their ways are for a time in the past; the Imperium's might and silver tongue always proves them wrong however.

There's my NS, might have fucked up some numbers but it should be alright.

The reason I don't have territorial claims is that I can't see the map.

Damn, my idea of a holy crusader nation snatched from under me! To the back-up plan it is

Damn, my idea of a holy crusader nation snatched from under me! To the back-up plan it is

Ironically, there's another holy nation that snatched my idea from under my own nose but I decided to try to make the HNI as unique as I could ;p

Also, for a Chaos God worshipper, making a holy nation is a bit... strange don't you think?

@ClocktowerEchos I like the look of your nation! And the traits all look good to me. In fact, you have another 150 Conscript Units available if you want them by the looks of it. But it all works, so welcome aboard! Post it over on the character tab.

In terms of the map, I'm not sure why you can't see it. Anyone else having an issue?

@Romero I can't see the map due to me using a school laptop which blocks dA. If you could, can you reupload the picture using tinypic? I know for a fact tinypic is usable for me.

@ClocktowerEchos I was trying to be good for a change. I don't like the taste, time to make a nation that truly represents my name!

@ForKhorne

You should totally make a greenskin horde/tribe/nation that uses walkers and shit that run on 40k orc logic XD

@ClocktowerEchos You're pretty close to what I'm working on!

@ClocktowerEchos tinypic hates my internet apparently. Anything else that would work for you?