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I knew I should have made a skeleton servant.. damnit!
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I knew I should have made a skeleton servant.. damnit!


Much better undead servant.
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Or like Sage Kabuto, and let him summon undead servants!
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I think Baraka is confusing his Servant for an Assassin. :V
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Talking to people and pretending to be friendly is something that even Hercules could do. If he tried. REALLY REALLY HARD.
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Hercules was friends with Illyasviel. He just, couldn't show it really well.
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Welp, technically the War hasn't even started yet and we're already headed towards our first fatality. Fun.

Oh, and waiting on @Arisphadrel to post
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Welp, technically the War hasn't even started yet and we're already headed towards our first fatality. Fun.

Oh, and waiting on @Arisphadrel to post


All Tatsunoko has to do is think. INSTEAD he's reveling in power.
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All Tatsunoko has to do is think. INSTEAD he's reveling in power.


I would agree if we weren't talking about Tatsunoko.
He doesn't go for the obvious choice, forbidding his servant from attacking him, as that wouldn't make him obey either, and with 1 command seal left he would just be a leech. Letting him suicide seems like the most relevant choice at that time if he were to use a command seal.
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He's literally throwing away his chance at the Grail. He could have commanded Roland to obey his commands. Thus he would have saved himself a lot of trouble.

And he has one left regardless. One option just leaves him with a servant.
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He's literally throwing away his chance at the Grail. He could have commanded Roland to obey his commands. Thus he would have saved himself a lot of trouble.

And he has one left regardless. One option just leaves him with a servant.


I recall somebody in the series trying that, it doesn't work.
And he doesn't have one left regardless if he plays it smart.
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I recall somebody in the series trying that, it doesn't work.
And he doesn't have one left regardless if he plays it smart.


'Obey me' is too vague a command to be ironclad, Servants can resist it if they want. All that happens is that they get a nerf to their abilities if they don't obey.

A better command would be 'You will not harm your master'. Which would solve the immediate problem, though I doubt it would ensure that Roland bothers saving your butt if you get attacked by another servant.
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<Snipped quote by Ploxerdon>

'Obey me' is too vague a command to be ironclad, Servants can resist it if they want. All that happens is that they get a nerf to their abilities if they don't obey.

A better command would be 'You will not harm your master'. Which would solve the immediate problem, though I doubt it would ensure that Roland bothers saving your butt if you get attacked by another servant.


The problem with that command is that Roland will be able to walk away without any consequences.
At this moment, the most profitable command for Tatsunoko (and something he would think of tbh) would be to force his servant to kill himself.
Though with Gilgamesh watching, that won't just... happen you know.

Edit: I have found the solution, something that is in character... I will post it once I have finished watching UBW.
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The problem with that command is that Roland will be able to walk away without any consequences.
At this moment, the most profitable command for Tatsunoko (and something he would think of tbh) would be to force his servant to kill himself.


Roland obviously doesn't care about consequences. As for profitable...no servant, ridiculously small chance at fighting, no chance at the Grail, no wish. A resentful servant is still better than a Snowball's chance in hell.

Though with Gilgamesh watching, that won't just... happen you know.


I wouldn't be so sure.

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'you cannot attack anyone while today’s light is still shinning'

You know Caster is going to have to destroy the Sun now, right?
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'you cannot attack anyone while today’s light is still shinning'

You know Caster is going to have to destroy the Sun now, right?

Tatsunoko is getting attacked though lol

edit: My browser crashed erasing my post, rip
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She thought, before somebody suddenly grabbed her by her neck in a chokehold.
She didn't have time to turn around and look who it was, but he noticed the huge paladin from before standing in front of her, so she quickly realized who was holding her as an hostage


Wait, where did the Paladin come from?! o_o Only one we know so far is Roland and he is raging at his master. Rider is contemplating his master and the rest of us are being idle...
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Gil-Gil said she can't hurt people while Today's light is still shining. So, if she blasts the sun, like what Roshi did to the moon, she gets to start blasting.
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Wait, where did the Paladin come from?! o_o Only one we know so far is Roland and he is raging at his master. Rider is contemplating his master and the rest of us are being idle...


Tatsunoko grabbed Mizore lol, its logical Roland is standing there
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Tatsunoko is holding a Heroic Spirit hostage.

....Tatsunoko does realize that even the weakest Heroic Spirit is like 10x as strong as a baseline human, yes?

EDIT: Also, unless Mizore has a trait or NP that says otherwise, every other Servant in the room knows that she's a Heroic Spirit because they can detect her.
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