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@Kidd Well yes. I asked if Aldaric could be a original, breeding vampire, so that he could be Katarina's psychotic sire. You see, Aldaric was born, lived as a normal vampire until his faction was destroyed by the Society for refusing to join them, then he survives, turns feral, and starts hunting Society vampires for vengeance, especially their purebloods.

But I'm ok with keeping things the way they are.


The society wouldn't attack those who didn't join. They would simply ignore them/apply the laws of society to them anyway.
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Hilarious, there isn't a single purebreed female yet. It's a bro club :P
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@AtomicNut Nor hunter, haha
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Hilarious, there isn't a single purebreed female yet. It's a bro club :P


They obviously ganged up on and wiped out the original females to solidify power then chose to turn females who pleased them aesthetically, rather than mentally, in order to maintain said power...

Like a typical patriarchy.

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They obviously ganged up on and wiped out the original females to solidify power then chose to turn females who pleased them aesthetically, rather than mentally, in order to maintain said power...

Like a typical patriarchy.



All hail the grand patriarchy, my fellow shitlord.
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The society wouldn't attack those who didn't join. They would simply ignore them/apply the laws of society to them anyway.


Ok. Well, applying those laws to them basically means they all have to be killed for refusing to follow. That is why his whole family was attacked and killed.
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They obviously ganged up on and wiped out the original females to solidify power then chose to turn females who pleased them aesthetically, rather than mentally, in order to maintain said power...

Like a typical patriarchy.



Obviously, considering they weren't thinking that would be the end to the Purebreds. But who cares when you've got a babe on your arm. ~
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Ok. Well, applying those laws to them basically means they all have to be killed for refusing to follow. That is why his whole family was attacked and killed.


Well, that would only be killed if they were breaking those laws. His family would only be slain as a result of their own actions.
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Well, that would only be killed if they were breaking those laws. His family would only be slain as a result of their own actions.


Muahahaha Those actions included all out rebellion. They wanted vampire dominance all over the world.
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Muahahaha Those actions included all out rebellion. They wanted vampire dominance all over the world.


Since when have I stated that The Society wanted dominance? Their goal was simply to set and follow a list of restrictions to preserve both vampires and humans. There wasn't even a centralized governing force until the 1400s, and even then, they didn't attempt to gain any sort of worldwide dominance.
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Since when have I stated that The Society wanted dominance? Their goal was simply to set and follow a list of restrictions to preserve both vampires and humans. There wasn't even a centralized governing force until the 1400s, and even then, they didn't attempt to gain any sort of worldwide dominance.


I think he meant his family wanted that bro.
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I think he meant his family wanted that bro.


Even then, "rebellion" isn't even considered by the law. Again, only if the laws are broken is there any action. So, if the family was murdering/enslaving humans in droves, yea, action would be taken, but if the family was just trying to convince vampires to join their side, no.
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You are totally misunderstanding me. You see, according to our OC, there was a time before the Society began. During it's creation and establishment, and probably for a short while afterward, they certainly would have had opposition. ie. to deal with vampires who refused to accept the Society. There would have been wars, other factions, rebel lords, etc. who they had to defeat in order to become the single governing establishment among vampire kind. This all occurred hundreds of years before the current setting. Am I right about this?

So, I assumed that Aldaric could be from one of the Society's enemy groups. His group believed that massacre, etc. was a vampire's right as the superior species, and so they fought a battle with the Society vampires at some point.

Clearly the Society vampires won and that is why there are no enemy vampire groups left. All that is left is the society. Is this right?
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You are totally misunderstanding me. You see, according to our OC, there was a time before the Society began. During it's creation and establishment, and probably for a short while afterward, they certainly would have had opposition. ie. to deal with vampires who refused to accept the Society. There would have been wars, other factions, rebel lords, etc. who they had to defeat in order to become the single governing establishment among vampire kind. This all occurred hundreds of years before the current setting. Am I right about this?

So, I assumed that Aldaric could be from one of the Society's enemy groups. His group believed that massacre, etc. was a vampire's right as the superior species, and so they fought a battle with the Society vampires at some point.

Clearly the Society vampires won and that is why there are no enemy vampire groups left. All that is left is the society. Is this right?


The society started as what was essentially a doctrine. Vampires followed it of their own will. These ideas were spread across Europe and Asia, but they were never really forced on anybody. Sure, there would be people who disliked the idea of Society, but it wasn't a mandatory set of ideas, and they weren't even laws. At that time, it was simply a list of restrictions that people maintained on their own. It became popular because it helped to reduce the number of active hunters, which used to be relatively high.

If a group of Vampires believed that they had the right to massacre humans, they would be more likely to be killed by hunters, not followers of Society. So, The Society grew because it reduced the threat of hunters, and those who would appose society became the largest targets for hunters. By the 1400s, The Society's followers wanted a centralized government, and any detractors were the minority. Any detractors were still more likely to be killed by zealous vigilantes and hunters than anyone working under the power of Octus and The Society. If they did get killed by member of Society, it would be due to those laws being broken. Just having a different view wasn't an issue, but breaking the laws of The Society would of course be the issue.

Society wouldn't have fought any battles. It would just have beat out any other ideas, as it was the most favorable.
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The society would have probably gone after them after the majority of hunters put down their arms, but they'd be crippled at that point. And they would probably only know about the ones who murder humans left and right. Still gives ample reason for your character to go after the society.

On another note, the IC will be up soon.
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The IC is up!
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Alright. I'll just say that Aldaric blames Octavius and his followers for the destruction of his coven and their way of life. There must have been some bloodshed somewhere in the past, particularly when the punishments for most of these agreed-upon rules is death.
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Alright. I'll just say that Aldaric blames Octavius and his followers for the destruction of his coven and their way of life. There must have been some bloodshed somewhere in the past, particularly when the punishments for most of these agreed-upon rules is death.


Yea, sorry. I tend to get carried away when arguing, even though I was basically arguing over nothing.
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@VarionusNW No problem. I'll get working on a post.
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