>Ignores the fact that Trump isn't just a macho loudmouth but a businessman too, a man who made a much bigger fortune out of the inheritance he was given. And that as a businessman, profit and gain is the most important thing to people like him and that somehow automatically makes him running the country to the ground an inevitability instead of something he will do all in his skill and power to avoid since his reputation, his most prized possession; would be forever ruined if he did so. Simply put, he has far more to lose than every other candidate if he screws up his term and I doubt someone with an ego as his would let such a thing happen

>Implies that Putin will mentally and verbally destroy Trump just because, instead of the two trying to come to a favorable agreement between themselves and their respective nations.

>Oblivious to Trump being smart enough to only seriously pursue his presidential candidacy when the wave of nationalism, discontent at the establishment and populist power was at its highest. As well as telling it as it is, unlike everyone else in the race; who is too afraid of looking bad in front of the media and offending people.

>Doesn't realize that Washington and Lincoln got as powerful and respected as they were by taking charge during a time of crisis and effectively leading their nation to victory as well as being completely fearless, pushing forward their ideals and grand plans even when seemingly the entire world was against them. Just like what Trump is attempting to do by showing that the USA isn't all right as the Media and the White House claims and promising to fix it.

>Forgetting that attention and exposure, good or bad isn't his sole source of power, but something that he takes advantage of in order to make himself stronger. Even before The Apprentice, he already had friends and connections with powerful people; not necessarily something a so-called Loudmouth in the right place at the right time is capable of.

>Doesn't mention that despite Trump being with the 1%, the boogeyman and devil's spawn that the average citizen will blame for hogging all the hard-earned wealth of the nation and spending it all on hedonism and frivolities; is very popular with the Low and Middle class; who are very angry at the Establishment and big businesses giving away all of their jobs to immigrants and aliens. Not to mention that aside from what degenerates and liberal sockpuppets like the BLM movement and NBC says, is that he's quite popular with the latino and black populations despite all the claims of racism leveled against him.

Except his ideas and loudmouthed nature is exactly what'll fuck it up in the long run. It doesn't matter if he wants to stop the country going down or not, if he does what he says he will do and keeps acting like he has been acting the country's likely to fall down.

There's still too much hatred between America and Russia for that to work.

He's just "telling it as it is" to fear monger. And yes, the other candidates don't want to look bad in front of the media, because people still have the right to revolt if they don't like how things are going.

We're not in a crisis. Not a big one. Washington wanted to unite his people against an inferior political system. Lincoln just wanted to reunite the states. Their grand plans amounted to uniting the country into something greater. Trump wants to isolate us from our neighbors and anyone who doesn't agree with his plans. And Trump isn't fearless, either. He wants us to cower behind a wall because Mexico has immigrants and drugs. If he was fearless, he'd call to war to stop Mexico's shenanigans. He only doesn't do that because it costs more money than the dumbass wall idea and he doesn't want to look bad in front of the media.

Except that's exactly what a loud mouth is capable of. People love confidence, and Trump likes showing how confident in his abilities he is. It makes it better if he was in the right place at the right time.

In other words

he's popular with republicans?

Shock and awe. The leading Republican candidate is popular with Republicans.

Or, the media and the white house hate him because he has dumb ideas.

Trump's winning, that much is certain, but because he's leading people by the ears with promises of a better America and a better world. Kinda like what Obama did. If he does win, it won't change much, because everyone knows his ideas are gonna be vetoed by the Senate/Congress. Just like what happened to Obama.

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Fear mongering? In wake of cop-killings, A race war on the horizon, the massive influx of illegal aliens in state prisons and the USA's massive and increasing debt? Wow! He's truly blowing such small problems out of proportion!

Isolation for a perfectly valid reason. All those illegals and national security threats hitching on the rides of "refugees" need to be checked, screened and prevented from entering with the same ease as they currently do now. You say as if he'll turn USA into an airtight bubble despite the fact that trump stressed that only Illegals and dangerous people (rightfully so) aren't coming in. To me, that speaks of someone who hasn't really deeply read into what he said and is unfairly biased.

Also War is expensive and unpopular at this day and age, and doing so would be a horrible idea; not only would he lose support from home but from everyone else he hasn't already antagonized. Practically suicide for the man. And seriously, jumping to that conclusion just because he doesn't give a damn what the PC brigade and the Establishment thinks of him? What an adorable liberal tactic!

True, but he has previous success and experience in his business enterprises so he's not just a loudmouth but one who can back his bluster up. And in my opinion a businessman is a better leader than a politician: They know what they want and they know how to manage people to get what they want. Unlike the Community Leader or the Dumbass before him.

Dumb ideas like not wanting illegals into the country and strengthening the border? Except he could do that by creating more professional jobs like more border patrol and seeding out the corrupted members. Veterans need work and this would be perfect for them.

Dumb ideas like wanting to stop shit like the Trans-Pacific-Partnership from passing? I'll give you this one

Dumb ideas like wanting give jobs back to Americans and not immigrants? Illegal or otherwise, yet in practice mostly the illegal kind? Again, you're painting him as more racist than he actually is by saying "no jobs for immigrants, illegal or otherwise"

Dumb ideas like wanting people have the right to protect themselves from getting assailed by criminals with weapons? I'll give you this one too, but it's not a unique thing and its actually constitutional, unlike the previous dumbass idea in this list.

Dumb ideas like stopping the drug trade from Mexico ruining American lives? The only American lives it ruins are idiots stupid enough to sell or do drugs.

Dumb ideas like saying that the Muslims are truly dangerous and that refugees from the Middle East and Africa aren't peaceful and helpless victims? This is an extremely dumb idea. There are lots of dangerous Muslims, like with any large group. But you're saying he wants to paint the picture that all Muslims are dangerous.

Dumb ideas like tearing down the welfare and healthcare system that Obama set up? I don't know much about Obamacare, so whatever. I'll just assume its somewhere in the middle.

You say as if the other candidates will not tear the country down:

Sanders is an idealist, that while having a good vision for the US is simply too old and feeble to definitively take the reigns of the government and not be jerked around by the Establishment. Remember what those BLM bitches did to him?

Hillary is self-explanatory.

Carson is noble, but lacks truly relevant experience in the political arena and I'd see him do far better as a cabinet member rather than President. I'd love to see the man get a relevant position and prove if he really was worthy of becoming President.

Rubio is Establishment. So voters don't like him on principle and furthermore he'd only keep the status quo.

Cruz doesn't truly state how bad the immigrant issue is and is partially in support of using them as a cheap labor force and that he's very likely to support the Trans-Pacific-Trade agreement. Which from what I hear, is going to royally screw over the working man in not only the US, but all the countries it will affect. Not to mention that even the democrats and republicans agree that it's not good for them.

Realpolitik, every politician wants something that will advance their nation. If it means paying lip service and lifting some sanctions to Russia in order to make them less hostile in the long run in order to gain a mutually advantageous deal, then both sides will do so. But as it stands, Russia is too busy actually stopping the Civil War in Syria and the reason why Russia is so mad at the US in the first place is because of Obama administration's foreign policy making things far worse by funding the Assad regime's enemies, jeopardizing control of the only Mediterranean port Russia has and sanctioning trade with the CIS. Why the hell would the Russians be so mad in the first place?

Fear mongering? In wake of cop-killings, A race war on the horizon, the massive influx of illegal aliens in state prisons and the USA's massive and increasing debt? Wow! He's truly blowing such small problems out of proportion!

Isolation for a perfectly valid reason. All those illegals and national security threats hitching on the rides of "refugees" need to be checked, screened and prevented from entering with the same ease as they currently do now. You say as if he'll turn USA into an airtight bubble despite the fact that trump stressed that only Illegals and dangerous people (rightfully so) aren't coming in. To me, that speaks of someone who hasn't really deeply read into what he said and is unfairly biased.

True, but he has previous success and experience in his business enterprises so he's not just a loudmouth but one who can back his bluster up. And in my opinion a businessman is a better leader than a politician: They know what they want and they know how to manage people to get what they want. Unlike the Community Leader or the Dumbass before him.

Dumb ideas like wanting give jobs back to Americans and not immigrants? Illegal or otherwise, yet in practice mostly the illegal kind?

Dumb ideas like wanting people have the right to protect themselves from getting assailed by criminals with weapons?

Dumb ideas like saying that the Muslims are truly dangerous and that refugees from the Middle East and Africa aren't peaceful and helpless victims?

Dumb ideas like tearing down the welfare and healthcare system that Obama set up?

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And I suppose the fact he's also run his business into the ground even with a "small loan of a million dollars" stills proves him to be a "brilliant businessman"? You want to see his work? Look at Atlantic City, NJ, after his casinos went belly up, he just walked away and let the city and state deal with his mess. AC was supposed to be the Vegas of the East Coast, now its just a casino ghost town.

He's also outsourced his company before like his clothing line, made in China. He's also been caught using illegal immigrants as employees just so he can pay them less and not have to worry about stuff like their healthcare.

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It wouldn't even come to that, Putin would run circles around Trump and out do him, there would be no contest. Putin knows how to play his cards, Trump just bluffs and pretends he has a plan. Want evidence? Look at Syria and the Paris Attacks:

>Putin points out how much the US fucked up Afghanistan and Iraq and says we should not get involved in the Middle East anymore.
>US backs out of ME
>Russia then comes in and starts bombing the shit out of ISIS and getting credit for "taking on ISIS". As they do it more effectively then the US, they steal some more credit and the US doesn't look to hot anymore.
>Paris Attacks happens
>French PM gives a semi-lack luster response; Putin gives a very strong response
>Putin gifts France a Siberian Husky puppy after hearing how Paris police lost a police dog in the attacks.
>Putin gets a load of street cred internationally and France lines up behind Russia as Russia "leads the attack on ISIS"

That's the difference between a leader of a nation and a reality TV star, Trump would never be able to pull off something like that.

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If you've paid attention to anyone with a functioning brain, you'll see that we know Trump is literally just riding years of conservative fearmongering and hate. Sure Trump might be smashing PC norms, but now white supremacy groups are starting to make a comeback after slowly fading away before, now having some to idolize and use as an excuse. Trump has also humiliated America in front of many of its oldest and strongest European allies. When was the last time you heard about Britain trying to ban a president much less a candidate?

Something else that's interesting to point out, wanna know who else rode nationalism and discontent to power? Hitler. In fact, Trump and Hitler have some pretty similar rhetoric. Both promise to make their countries great again, used racism to support their rise, entertain the notion of mass deportations and blamed all their respective nations's ills on minorities/immigrants.

Let's play a game, replace everything Trump says about Mexicans or Muslims with Jews and see how that turns out.

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Washington and Lincoln were respected since they could inspire people on more than just the basis of fear and hate. They share very little if any rhetoric with Trump at all; Lincoln pushed for abolition and Trump is pushing for discrimination. Last I checked, those two things are very different.

The US may not be perfect, but you cannot say it hasn't gotten better in the past 8 years. We've gotten out of two expensive, pointless wars, lowered unemployment, recovered from a recession and oil is getting cheaper. I'd have to say that's some pretty fine work from a president whose been halted or blocked at every step.

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He knows how to play the media. Yippie.

What are these "friends and connections" you speak of? Do you mean his wealthy buddies? Maybe his father's KKK and neo-nazi buddies? Perhaps other celebrities? Or are they the "smart people" I keep hearing him talk about how he'll appoint to basically outsource his job as president to other people?

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So he's basically using Hitler's scapegoat, lovely. I've stated before that his own hands aren't clean from what he preaches. Especially with the whole "hiring immigrants to work in his casinos to pay them less". The only people who he's popular with are the conservatives who are dumb enough to by into him. And if he's so popular with Latinos and Blacks, then why are there Latinos celebrities who denouncing him and tell people not to vote for him and a lack of Black supporters at his rallies and endorsements?

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No matter what you say, Trump is literally only getting poll numbers from his rhetoric. Most his supporters don't know his policies outside "I'll build a wall" (that is both pointless and expensive) and "Just trust me". Having looked at his policies myself, I can clearly see he has no idea how to run a country or even understand how the spot of president works, thinking that he can some how use his power to strong arm Mexico into paying for his wall.

He tried using footage of Morocco and called it Mexico, you can't tell me that he's smart unless you mean that he's smart enough to know that most his voters won't know the difference between the two. Of course, then there's also the fact that his supporters are basically known neo-nazis, KKK members and the like. Like that one guy who shouted "Seig Heil" at one of his gatherings. And if he's so "strong", then why did he throw a temper tantrum at Megan Kelly? Was she just being too mean towards him?

He's also really god damn inconsistent. He's supported more Dems than Reps over the years, even donating to Obama's and Bill's campaigns, switched parties 8 times since 1981, promoted liberal policies of abortion and gun control. Plus he's friends with the Clintons, even praising Hillary before the election. Hell, you can have a debate with no one but Trump like Colbert proved.

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The fact that you used godwin's law is proof that you are not worthy of a proper debate. Begone mudslinger.

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The fact that you ignored literally everything else and decided to latch on to godwin's law is proof that you are not worthy of a proper debate. Begone tea partier.

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Your points I already, if indirectly refuted when I argued against BrobyDDark's points.

But since you're so thirsty for my refutes, then I shall say this: He only owned those business, not directly controlled them. He saw a loss in letting them go on as they were and thus left them to rot. Dick move, but a right one since you don't get to the top by being generous or trying to fix stupid, expensive mistakes.

Begone from mine sight liberal, cuckolded betabot. Keep on believing that someone as feeble and idealistic as Sanders will magically make the nation's problems go away simply because he says he won't be pushed around by the Establishment even though those BLM degenerates humiliated him in front of his own voters, refuses to talk about the racial tension and because he thinks all of the nation's problems lie solely in wealth redistribution and a improper welfare/healthcare system and not because that there's less and less work going to the American man or that there's a massive trade deficit with more than a few of America's chief trading partners.

Oh and by the way: Hitler would have been hailed as the Hero of Germany if he died on 1939.

Mr. Naruto Forums seems to be looking for a war chieftain,

Don't... don't frame your arguments in green text ever again. That's not a good thing to do.

I seem to have forgot this.

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That's not to mention that Greentext is supposed to be for simple shit, not for a line that lasts for an entire paragraph. It's a straight to the point way of getting to something directly and beating around the bush.

>Implying faggotry
>2013+3
>ISHYGDDT

Guys you're not playing the game right...

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>cuckolded betabot
>Being this much of a stereotypical poltard
>kektacular

With that, I guess our little game of poke the retard with a stick is over.

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As a general rule, actually using greentext to greentext outside of 4chan is cringey af.

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This hypocrisy. Focusing on that sole part of my argument. Liberals, Never even once.

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I for one accept the possibility of performing necromantic rituals in an effort to revive Sitting Bull to put him at the president's desk.

Or even Riurik the Varangian who had enough experience with the Russians to conquer them and basically become the father of the early Rus state. We can use him to beat Russia into shape by pure Vikingism.

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But... but what about Genghis Khan? If he can conquer the world in one lifetime, what do you think he can do for us in eight years of office equipped with modern weaponry?

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This hypocrisy. Focusing on that sole part of my argument. Liberals, Never even once.