All I know is this conversation is making me seriously consider applying for Zod.

You mean to tell me nobody died in the Avengers movies? yeah right.

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You wanna know the difference? Both Avengers movies made it a point to show the heroes actively saving lives.

Superman never destroys a building. Every building that is destroyed is because Zod or one of his lackeys threw him through it. Superman saved THE ENTIRE WORLD btw. People get killed in the comics all the time, read Justice League Origin in the new 52 and tell me there weren't casualties. That had the entire league. You mean to tell me nobody died in the Avengers movies? yeah right.

Except those spacesuits sure didn't block their powers when they were blowing up Smallville did they? Nope, they were fully powered in those suits.

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I'm not gonna comment on the New 52 Justice League because I think it has similar problems and sacrifices too much to make characters look 'cool'.
But the Avengers devote minutes of screentime to the Avengers saving people. That's what I needed from MoS, some kind of thought about the people in danger rather than Mortal Kombat style brawling, the slight glower he gives Pete Ross in ihop doesn't count. Avengers 2 spends about half an hour clearing civilians from the battlefield before they actually go for the big villain.

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You know what, fair point, I'd forgotten that. I got distracted by all the advertisements and logos that were being smashed to pieces. :P

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Counter argument.

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Once Superman and Zod start fighting, find me one scene where Supes puts civilians first. In all that destruction porn, they couldn't fit in a single shot of Superman of shielding someone from an explosion or moving someone out from underneath falling rubble? In the first Avengers, you have Hulk saving an office building from the Leviathan and Cap rescuing hostages in a bank. MoS has no equivalent in its third act.

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He snaps Zod's neck to save a family. That is a scene in the third act. He also has no super team to fall back on as he has a villain with the same power level as him focusing all of his attention on him.

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A villain who at any point could hand been momentarily incapacitated to allow for such a scene, if the writers cared more about making their hero a hero rather than simply seeing how many buildings they could flatten.

@Vandy

On an unrelated note...Lionel Luthor woooo!!! Oh wait...never mind :P

But anyways I think we're talking in circles here, you'll continue being on the hate train because the internet complained a bit and I'll continue loving this movie because I think it is amazing.

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The Avengers sure did kill a lot of those aliens that were attack New York didn't they? Hawkeye arrows, Hulk smashing, Iron Man guns, etc. And before you go all "but they were aliens!" so was Zod. Guess killing a bunch of faceless minions is morally justifiable though. And Fraknly having an invasion on that scale without more collateral damage is unrealistic.

But anyways I think we're talking in circles here, you'll continue being on the hate train because the internet complained a bit and I'll continue loving this movie because I think it is amazing.

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Haha you like that? I almost didn't do it. No more hints though, I want people to read the post.