Seeing all the complains about "lack of creativity/originality", "no diversity", "annoying fandom spams"...

Creativity only can arise through inspirations of existing things - meaning, you cannot create something from absolute nothingness. No matter how "original" you claim your idea is, there's always someone out there who will shoot you down with, "Hey, isn't this idea very familiar? Haven't I seen this somewhere before? Isn't this based on/inspired from <insert existing work by other creators, or some fandom here>?"

No, I am not defending fandom RPs or whatever is the mainstream at the moment, but saying that fandom = uncreative is:

obtuse and illogical

Instead of just making sweeping statements such as "fandom is killing creativity", "fandom is limiting and stealing attention away from potentially good original RPs", why can't people try to think out of the box: who says you can't be creative even within an existing work's world? Or be more ambitious enough to work even harder to be able to shift their attention away from all these "hateful fandom whores" by making people to get inspired by your "original" ideas instead?

Also, it's people's freedom to be interested in whatever they want to like as much as you hate what they like, and they are free not to be interested in whatever your "original" idea is because they simply don't click with what you like.

Guild's diversity isn't the issue, to be fair, just because your taste doesn't align with it.

...Just my random two-cents, yeah. /shrugs

My problem isn't with fandom, its with the flooding of the same type of fandom.

My problem isn't with fandom, its with the flooding of the same type of fandom.

Flooding. Is. Not. A. Thing.

If there's interest, people play it. That's going to happen everywhere. The only thing that's being 'flooded' is your mind with these delusions.

<Snipped quote by Weird Tales>

Flooding. Is. Not. A. Thing.

If there's interest, people play it. That's going to happen everywhere. The only thing that's being 'flooded' is your mind with these delusions.

Whatever I don't care

I still vehemently disagree, as fandoms are "safer" in that their audience is already established, the material already created and much of the tenants of the plot laid out.

Seeing all the complains about "lack of creativity/originality", "no diversity", "annoying fandom spams"...

Creativity only can arise through inspirations of existing things - meaning, you cannot create something from absolute nothingness. No matter how "original" you claim your idea is, there's always someone out there who will shoot you down with, "Hey, isn't this idea very familiar? Haven't I seen this somewhere before? Isn't this based on/inspired from <insert existing work by other creators, or some fandom here>?"

This is not a matter of "absolute originality", for as you have said that's not something to come. What it is a matter of, is that there's a stark contrast between "original content" and building directly off a framework that has come before. It is as simple as asking one's self if it is more difficult to build a house of sticks while they are all in a pile versus one wherein you would be building on top of existing framework.

Instead of just making sweeping statements such as "fandom is killing creativity", "fandom is limiting and stealing attention away from potentially good original RPs", why can't people try to think out of the box: who says you can't be creative even within an existing work's world?

I cite my earlier example in that a fandom requires significantly less effort than constructing an entire world. At most one simply needs alter the existing format, moreover fandoms are usually exceptionally well documented by their fans; pages, Wikis, general circulation of the media. The two are not the same and I do not believe them directly comparable, as while both creative, one is constructive and the other dabbles far more in alteration.

Or be more ambitious enough to work even harder to be able to shift their attention away from all these "hateful fandom whores" by making people to get inspired by your "original" ideas instead?

An unrealistic expectation when fandoms are entrenched and as popular as they are. It would take a major change in the social dynamics of the Guild abroad to turn this into a credible factor. To steal a quote from a fandom, "Quicker, easier, more seductive." They are hardly difficult to build up by having already ample source material available, just as easy to recruit for by having a vast audience, and lastly by being inherently more marketable to an audience. Because that audience is such a high concentration, you get great overlap so one fandom is likely to attract other, similar fandoms; it feeds itself and you create a microcommunity which often has intense activity.

While I cannot speak for those of us who write everything ourselves and purposefully skirt fandoms, I admit the idea of "just try harder" is almost insulting. You would be just as successful attempting to rouse independent small business owners to dive into the general market arena and throw themselves against some giant corporation, choose any of them you can think of for reference. Why would people risk their time on a roleplay they are not sure of when they know a genre they like is always thriving? Truth be told, many of these topics rise and fall just as quickly as they began, but for some reason that feels safer and more rewarding. Not many original works last long either, most tending to die out because the Guild has one of the highest turn over rates I have ever seen for roleplays.

Also, it's people's freedom to be interested in whatever they want to like as much as you hate what they like, and they are free not to be interested in whatever your "original" idea is because they simply don't click with what you like.

This is the only matter I can safely agree on that people have the right to choose. My issue is and will remain that they're over represented, seldom of quality, and not meriting their popularity. No, I do not hate them explicitly because they are successful - that's a foolish notion - but I do dislike them that they are something so easy and all feeling quite the same. I ceased reading a few here that even held the faintest of my interest because they all just devolved into the same thing.

I'm now going to literally flood the RPG with a single fandom. In a few days, entire pages will be nothing but one kind of RPs.

I'll call it "Operation Fuck Everything and it's Extended Family."

It'll be the best thing I'll do on the RPG thus far (Other than make fabulous RPs constantly (◕‿◕✿)).

I'm not nearly good enough of an artist to draw my own characters, and nothing I find via image searches on Google, Pinterest, or DeviantArt ever meets my requirements.

On other communities, I seek sexual gratification, in RP. Ever since my young years, in Xat, I have been (ruthlessly) conditioned into harboring sexual desires towards the female form; I have no extreme fetishes, unless you count hourglass bodies and hours (in RP time,) long sessions to be one.

I am perfectly fine with characters that were designed solely for sex.

I am not fine with players using indecent images, for such profiles. I come to get High on one of the oldest drugs, in the history of Mankind, and instead I am given something of little scintillation, or overloaded with obscene content?

A big breasted woman makes me happy, but an image of a woman getting tortured, dehumanized, and raped is far from pleasing, let alone interesting...

And for that matter, people's general choice of imagery is sub par, to say the least. There are thousands of attractive pictures one can find, on the internet... and people preferentially use stock-grade pictures.

Let me give some (SFW) examples.
Look at this


Then look at this


Which one would you approach, if you were looking to get wasted, on the online equivalent of Cocaine?

There's a time to use a medium for serious stories, and extremely intricate character relationships



...Then there's a time to use a medium to attract Junkies, like myself, to get wasted.


Notice, here, how it doesn't have an overtly sexual air, about it. The angle is just suggestive, welcoming; otherwise it would have the same resonance as the former picture I posted of Narumeia.

Even images designed to be sexually appealing can be minuscule in allure, compared to others.
See this nun, for an example.


And then look at this one.

Which would you rather pay visit to, to confess your lustful transgressions?

Alright; that's my rant.

I'm not nearly good enough of an artist to draw my own characters, and nothing I find via image searches on Google, Pinterest, or DeviantArt ever meets my requirements.

If You're looking for 2D/anime style, have you tried zerochan? Great image database and they provide a BBCode link for you to use. My favorite source, personally. It's like photobucket, but anime only.

@Ey Iran Did you really make a rant

about

Anime tiddie?

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If You're looking for 2D/anime style, have you tried zerochan? Great image database and they provide a BBCode link for you to use. My favorite source, personally. It's like photobucket, but anime only.

That's... Really, really helpful. Managed to find a fitting enough character via that site. \o/

_{also realized I could edit images to make them fit properly - not sure how that one slipped past me for so long}

@The Harbinger of Ferocity
Upon reading all that, I sorta just went. "Though, you do have valid points, Fandom Rps usually do take traction away from different, to original ideas simply because they have more namesake than original projects. It is a risk of interest and overall can be a waste of time, even though I do groan at a lack of original projects." It just sucks when you know the person with the original idea they had just sorta gets... deluded because of "Don't know it, don't want it." mentality a lot of people seem to display.

Let's not get started on people trying to insert their lore into your story when they have not even asked if they could or not.

@Azereiah Yeah :) I lurk here to help and alleviate the problems I've had! Google Images doesn't cut it for me.

@Mr Allen J I was just going to let it go... ^^"

I'm not nearly good enough of an artist to draw my own characters, and nothing I find via image searches on Google, Pinterest, or DeviantArt ever meets my requirements.

Aw man, I think I have kind of the opposite problem... I can draw somewhat reasonably, and I like a lot of my designs, but I can never seem to find any RPs to fit them into. D:

@Ey Iran Did you really make a rant

about

Anime tiddie?

Yes...

Is that wrong?

@Ey Iran Nothing wrong with a little tiddie.

@The Harbinger of Ferocity
Upon reading all that, I sorta just went. "Though, you do have valid points, Fandom Rps usually do take traction away from different, to original ideas simply because they have more namesake than original projects. It is a risk of interest and overall can be a waste of time, even though I do groan at a lack of original projects." It just sucks when you know the person with the original idea they had just sorta gets... deluded because of "Don't know it, don't want it." mentality a lot of people seem to display.

Let's not get started on people trying to insert their lore into your story when they have not even asked if they could or not.

A good portion of those issues with people wedging in possibly unrelated material comes from Game Masters of original content feeling, in many cases, obligated to be more open and welcoming to any submission put forward. I know I am extremely cautious and examine each closely, but by telling players "Sorry, but that is not what I am looking for." often results in them just withdrawing. It is a fine, difficult balance. One has to be willing to stick to the idea at hand and in mind, but find sufficient flexibility to make others' ideas work.

If one is fortunate, the result can be really well made, very creative content that expands the world and how it behaves, but most players would rather just play than have to explain and integrate fine details and mechanics. No fault of their own - there is only so much time one has for roleplaying and world building in one of those.

@The Harbinger of FerocityWhen the Guild was the old Guild, before the take down and what not, there was an Rp I had running that was high fantasy. And there were many people that were enjoying it. But there was one guy, that would not only listen to when addressed, but ignored others when things were not going his way.

My job as a GM is to provide a world, characters and a story that goes with an adventure that players effectively forge from what I give them. But when some guy just basically inserts his own lore, without my consent or talking about it, it isn't unfair when I give a warning, especially when it annoys everyone around him. It just wasn't a fun experience.

There was another project I can throw shade at... All I will say is... "Zelda does not need Christianity. Termina was a Realm of Link's Imagination and this cannot exist with Hyrule." This was before the crash too. The Cringe was real.

@The Harbinger of Ferocity
Upon reading all that, I sorta just went. "Though, you do have valid points, Fandom Rps usually do take traction away from different, to original ideas simply because they have more namesake than original projects. It is a risk of interest and overall can be a waste of time, even though I do groan at a lack of original projects." It just sucks when you know the person with the original idea they had just sorta gets... deluded because of "Don't know it, don't want it." mentality a lot of people seem to display.

Let's not get started on people trying to insert their lore into your story when they have not even asked if they could or not.

This is like turning up for an open house party, getting the OK from the host to mingle, and then using the master bedroom's private bathroom.

I don't know how others are, but as an Asian with a semi-traditional upbringing, I find that rude. At least *ask* beforehand.

I mean, I'm totally fine with people coming up with their own parts of the lore if there's a blank that's left open for a player to fill in.

But, that is pretty rude af.