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Yay, a Fate/RP!

Placing my interest here. If I may ask, since there's a lot of alterations and reinterpretations of mythology and lore in the Nasuverse, how much can we reinterpret the backstory, nature, and capabilities of a Heroic Spirit? Things like gender feats, motivation, and other aspects.

Probably will make an Archer or Rider for Servant. Leaning more to Rider.
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@Slime I did that primarily due to my own confusion.

Some sources I found stated that legend = power, some said it didn't. I thought that due to Wolf the Quarrelsome being incredibly unknown, he'd have weaker stats than most, if that isn't the case, then yeah, i'll definitely change it.
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@Nanashi Ninanai
Greetings, dragon rider.

As far as I can tell you can make small tweaks as you see fit, but nothing that changes the Servant's tale too much, so don't twist them too much. Gender is seen being swapped all the time in Fate, but always turning male historic figures into women and not the other way around.

Out of curiosity, what Servant do you have in mind?

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As far as I know the fame of the hero influences their strength by granting a significant boost when they're at their land of origin (I.E. Cú Chullain would be stronger in Ireland than anywhere else), but heroes with worldwide fame would be stronger than usual, like Heracles. I'd treat it as a bonus over their natural strengths rather than the basis for them, so do increase his physical stats a bit.
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@Slime Okay, I improved endurance, Luck, and Strength by a bit, time to get working on a master.

Right now i'm thinking a member of the church, that way Berserker being a Druid will make him freak out.
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Greetings, dragon rider.

As far as I can tell you can make small tweaks as you see fit, but nothing that changes the Servant's tale too much, so don't twist them too much. Gender is seen being swapped all the time in Fate, but always turning male historic figures into women and not the other way around.

Out of curiosity, what Servant do you have in mind?


There are two ideas that I have in mind at the moment. First one is Empress Jingu as Archer, which will utilize the hotly debated conflation she has with Queen Himiko in her lore. Alternatively, I will go with an alternate version of Queen Medb as Rider.
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Madb already exists as a Rider though. We won't deny her, but it would be appreciated if you used a Servant that wasn't previously used in Type-Moon. Or if you manage to change her enough to create disparity with the TM version we will accept her. Changes on the level of Elizabeth Bathory into Carmilla or Dracula from Fate/Extra into his Appocripha version should be enough.
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@Slime Yea, I'm aware. She's my favorite servant in Grand Order. It was a reason why I ask whether is it fine for me to reinterpret someone's legend and their nature, as I was looking for a way to play an alternate version of her. Granted, the change I was thinking was more like Vlad III in Extra to Vlad III in Apocrypha, or Cu and Proto Cu, or Artoria and Arthur.

It's not going to be as extensive as the change Bathory goes through to be Carmilla. I'll see what I can do, but it's fine if I ends up having to choose another figure instead.
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Well I just spent two hours trying to understand type moon's magic system. Still seems like I know nothing, though.

I'm sure i'll make sense of it...Eventually.
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Alright, @Dawnscroll @Slime, I think I will have Medb here, with interpretation that plays up to her goddess-like qualities. Probably wouldn't just slap divinity to her or anything, but going to include the sources and interpretations that her story and exploits were based on a now-forgotten Irish war and love goddess.
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@NachoBachoPacho
Yes, the magic system is rather confusing. The translated side materials have some information not present in the main media of TM.

@Nanashi Ninanai
I never read the Tain and the only info I have on Medb is Lancer's backstory, some small stuff I scavenged from GO discussions and her TM wiki page, so I don't know much. But I do look forward to see what you pull off.
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@Slime In that case, I'll get on working on the app then. Do we have any projected start date, or are we waiting for the roster to be filled fully?
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Mostly waiting on Dawnscroll. He suggested starting soon, but the teams are still undecided and he needs a Master, so you still have time. Worst case scenario you join in a little late, so don't worry.
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@Slime Are there teams? Obviously the fourteen servant/master setup is very reminiscent of Fate/Apocrypha but I can't actually find anything that makes it clear it'll be going that way.
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Well, I was assuming that actually. I didn't even consider that there being no teams was a possibility.
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@Dawnscroll @Slime Alright, finished my app...somewhat.

I...kinda feel a bit worried right now, the thread felt slower than the other threads on the subforum, and I saw some of the people on the characters tab hadn't been on the site for a while. Is it normal? I'm new here, so I'm not sure how things usually go around this place.
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I'm still here. Just haven't posted my Master profile yet.
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Regarding Medb, I don't see any problems, but why would she not want to use her chariot when it (sorta) defines her as a Rider? Also, she was killed with a piece of cheese? Like, seriously?

Tianzi on the other hand has problems. I don't think it's possible for magi to have affinity in more than two elements and even if it's a degraded version of of the Second Magic I don't think she can output enough magical energy to perform it. Sakura in HF didn't win against Rin because she couldn't use enough power at once to overcome the Jewel Sword, even with the Grail's infinite supply of prana. You'd also have to wait on Dawnscroll's say about whether or not she gets to keep her Crossroads.

And regarding the activity... it is pretty slow here. I also joined fairly recently so I don't know how much activity the average RP gets, but if we decide to start the RP we'll just try to get in touch with our members. We'll have to decide what happens to the inactive RPers since we have a hard limit of characters.

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How are things going on your side?
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@Slime I was going a bit too far on the figurative and literal part of "riding men" from Medb, although as far as I know it really is a part of her qualification for the Rider class as she technically never really uses the bulls as mount because they die not long after she got the second bull.

Yeahhhh, she really did get killed by a piece of cheese. Her life's actually quite shitty even compared to Cu, so dunno why the one in FGO has EX Luck. Probably my main rationalization of treating the one there as the younger version of her here before her life went to utter shit.

Tianzi, tianzi, I agree, it really does feel that I made her into a bit too much of a special Snowflake. Affinity to all elements really do exist, Rin and Paracelsus have it, but it's a bit too special to be thrown around, especially on someone that also has an imitation of a True Magic.

Now speaking of, probably a bit too much in hindsight. I was trying to rationalize it with Kojirou's successful (accidental) effort, and with her Origin, I think I was going with the explanation that it allowed connection between different versions of herself and only that, which I was thinking to cost less mana overall to initiate. It would end up being (with how she could use it now) something that'd allow her to have the mana cast something really big probably once or twice since she wouldn't be able to connect herself with that much universes at once without killing herself.

Though yeah, in hindsight she pretty much ended up being too much of an unpleasant special snowflake. I'll probably focus more on her jack of all trade-ness instead of having it be a side effect. Crossroad would stay as her origin even without the magecraft.

Other than that, I'll write up Chariot My Love as Medb's NP and rework her background to make it more coherent.
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@Nanashi Ninanai
I really know too little on GO. Forums are my only source since I can't read Japanese and that's kind of a turn off even though I love the Fate series.

I don't remember if Rin has affinity with all elements, but instead the spells she casts with her gems are based on the gem itself (I.E. ruby = fire; emerald = wind) as her origin is neither of the basic elements, although I don't remember if it's Nothingness or Emptiness (this was found in a side material btw). And Paracelsus is exceptional in the fact that he can create the Philosopher's Stone with alchemy, so he can do a lot of crazy stuff.

Just don't remove her blood creating an army as that was unexplored in GO even though it states that she can do it. It would be interesting to see her commanding an army of her own.
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@Slime Nah, definitely won't remove that part. It's part of why I want to play Medb here. It's also explored somewhat in GO, since with the backup from the Grail, the entire Celt army that devastated America in Chapter 5 was made by her.

Yea, Rin has that affinity last I remembered, and Sakura was the one with the Nothingness/Imaginary Numbers affinity. Para was definitely a very special person too.

Though, since I'm discarding the original part of Crossroad, I probably could make it so that she has a singular element as her affinity, but her Origin allows her to shift her affinity around as part of it. As far as I know adding or changing affinity is possible, although pretty dangerous, but her Origin allows it to happen at a far easier and simpler method.
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