To be honest, I feel teh same way as Flamelord. If I'm a burden I'll leave and it's been made known I'm not exactly the most liked. I know you just said more about how leaving for the greater good doesn't help much, but at this stage I can't help but feel like my withdrawal would be more helpful than my continued participation.

To be honest, I feel teh same way as Flamelord. If I'm a burden I'll leave and it's been made known I'm not exactly the most liked. I know you just said more about how leaving for the greater good doesn't help much, but at this stage I can't help but feel like my withdrawal would be more helpful than my continued participation.

How? Really the only problem you may be causing is infrequent posting but that can be remedied with updates to us about your availability.

I really don't want to answer that question again. Don't take it the wrong way but I'm finding it redundant now. If you see value in me being here then awesome. I don't, but as it's been proven what I see doesn't matter much at all. If you wish me to stay then I'll stay.

As for the reason why, I am willing to tell but this can't turn into another shit show and I'll need a promise that this will be more of a negotiation than an argument.

@FrozenPhoenix

We promise this will be fair and even handed negotiation. Now please respond to our attempts at dialogue.

Thinking about it.

Tell me can I do a bit of a wide post to get Titania out of the castle or is there some event that you have planned?

Tell me can I do a bit of a wide post to get Titania out of the castle or is there some event that you have planned?

Aside from Yggdrasil fighting Titania's group since they just stole his Relic, there shouldn't be anything planned. Did you have something in mind?

Literally throwing Titania out a window and sort of gliding down to get away from the castle.

Literally throwing Titania out a window and sort of gliding down to get away from the castle.

That's fine, though you'll need to explain how Axon can carry a general in armor. Might want to check with Gecko as well.

Answer is he can... But that fucking gun is way to big. As for GEcko he literally went through the floor, so to be totally honest... Not really worried about it.

@The 42nd Gecko

Gecko, are you dissatisfied with your RP experience so far? I know we've had some rough patches, but do you currently feel repressed in your ability to act and enjoy the RP?

@Lonewolf685 I feel like the prime NPCs were originally established to be amazingly strong. When one showed up, you had to run away using the environment, or they got to do whatever they wanted with you. But now it feels like they're jobbing hard in a "Oh, wait you're supposed to start winning now because the plot's winding down way". You built up a giant mountain to overcome... and instead of feeling like I've grown and might have a chance to scale it, the mountain has bent down to let me over. And you have to do that, because there hasn't been enough arc time to grow the enormous amount of strength it would take to make it a satisfying contest.

I feel like the Legend Relics are immensely unsatisfying as power ups. It feels like "replace your character with a more powerful character in combat. Any random guy could pick up the relic and be relatively just as useful." The only moment that felt like Legend Relics might have some sort of interesting arc potential was Alex's Legend Relic telling him to jump back in the fight. But that only happened because he denied destiny. And with the end zooming towards us without a moment to breath, I feel like we'll never have time to do so.

Speaking of no time to breath, the feel I get from Flamelord's posts was a man desperately trying to escape the plot's eye for a moment, take a rest, and then re-enter it when he could add his character's flavor in to a mix that needed it. Meanwhile, the plot repeatedly jumped in saying "Why Aren't you a Heroic Warrior Yet Thief Man? Why Aren't you a Heroic Warrior Yet?" And it keeps hammering on like that until you send Stark to bust his face through Alex's metaphorical plot shield door with a "Here's Starkkky... Completely pushing past any sense of believe-ability and reasonable levels of metagaming to force you back into the plot in an unwanted manner."

In that way, what's happened Alex has completely double-downed my before "meh, I don't really want one, it feels like cheating" mild dislike of the Legend Relics to "Yeah, this seems like a trap, a one way train ticket, that will lock me into a press f to fire your color of legendary magic to beat the beast cutscene." I don't feel like having a Legend Relic has given Chen more player agency, just forced him onto a path, and since all his opponents seem to be leveling up with him, it doesn't even seem to add relative power, even though it certainly added absolute power.

On the subject of "why are we even here, what have we added".

Let's imagine all the changes that would happen if Monkey was never here.
An old man might still be able to have children. Dunno if he was able to before.
Chen would have had a slightly easier time getting his relic.
Axon would have had to take two trips to get up to the office, once with the gun, once with Titania.

No one likes Monkey. No one has ever thought she said something intelligent. Maybe that's all my fault, but still it leaves a poor taste in my mouth when what I thought was a relatively unique and interesting character feels like they're barely tolerated.

A huge reason why I think myself, Flame, and Frozen all felt unwanted at various times is how the NPCs always treat us like idiots. Maybe we are, but it might be nice if you occasionally said "OOC, I think you might be misunderstanding the situation, because looked at from XYZ perspective with XYZ knowledge that your character has, this seems really dumb. Are you sure?" Instead of all the NPCs instead taking the opportunity to canonize our character idiocy due to player mistake.

For my part, I was warned that talking to Yggdrasil would probably yield no fruit, so I can't claim any points there, but I feel like it has happened other times as well.

Ok, better question. Is there anyone here who actually likes this RP? Because I feel the GMs are being demonized here with solving problems that no one except for two people have spoken on. So if you have a problem, by all means, step up and say something.

@TheWindel Just because I can write a giant ass post about all the problems I see doesn't mean I'm not enjoying myself. Just that I'm very wordy, and want to communicate clearly. Also, Wolf asked for me to list my problems.

I see problems yes, but I chose to continue because I feel the good outweighs the bad. I could write a similarly length complaint about War with Three Thingies, but that doesn't mean I'm wanting to bail.

Do the poor widdle GMs need me to write a big honking post of all the good things so they feels better? :P

Do the poor widdle GMs need me to write a big honking post of all the good things so they feels better? :P

I mean, given that everyone apparently hates this RP, probably. Though at least we can count on you to show everyone that the GMs make mistakes since apparently we're also free of guilt.

@TheWindel Pardon me, but I think I feel a bit of hurt and bitterness from your post. I think I shall preemptively apologize for upsetting you, in case this is true. I should have been more tactful, listed the good that outweighs the bad, and been less disrespectful with my poor taste in jokes. I apologize. And for my part in the roleplay. I shouldn't have done things I was warned not to do, I should have read the setting and previous posts more carefully to avoid mistakes, and I should have made my character more likeable. I apologize.

@TheWindel Pardon me, but I think I feel a bit of hurt and bitterness from your post. I think I shall preemptively apologize for upsetting you, in case this is true. I should have been more tactful, listed the good that outweighs the bad, and been less disrespectful with my poor taste in jokes. I apologize.

It's fine. I would just rather people state their problems so we can try to make the RP better than to grasp at straws to reach a compromise like we're doing at the moment.

@TheWindel

Sorry if I always seem quiet about these things. Being I'm in like 3 or your RPs yud think I'd be more out spoken but thanks to RL I'm either not in a place to easily talk, or by the time I formulate my thoughts I feel the topic has passed and would be inappropriate to bring it back up.

If you would like I can do like Gecko and come up with a list of things I've noticed both good and bad, it just might be a while because as I type I'm getting ready to go to dinner with some family.

Edit: I would like to add however I am really enjoying all these. In fact this RP specifically is one of my favorites.

If you would like I can do like Gecko and come up with a list of things I've noticed both good and bad, it just might be a while because as I type I'm getting ready to go to dinner with some family.

You can if you want. The only worry, since we're supposed to be near the IC story's conclusion, would be how realistic the GMs are able to execute things that need to be changed.

Does anyone else feel the GMs are being overtly oppressive? Since apparently the GMs are demons who are nothing but dictators.

@TheWindel To be perfectly honest with you, I'm not going to carry on any discussion with that tone. Except this discussion to let you know there is not a discussion. There is no cause for alarm. The wings are not on fire.