@ineffable

I did replay. Look

"Thank you." Vert said to the Storyteller before starting to stand up. Vert turned to see Laina ready to help her after the beast had been killed. "Save that for someone else, I'm a fast healer and a few bite marks won't hurt my tongue that much. Besides, helping me could make the others hate you." Vert said as her maw seemed to chew on the warg of it's own accord. It soon ate the warg entirely. Vert could feel her legs get slightly lighter thanks to the absorption. However due to this not being a humanoid she had eaten it would not do much for her for long. It was only a temporary boost at most.

Around the town the battle was starting to tense up she turned to the large creature come up. Her eyes went wide as she heard it talk about one of it's own. She knew that it meant her. This was a creature of the warlock from what she could tell. "I'm loyal to myself." She said as some of her hair covered her eyes. "And everything I do is of my own accord! Not that of the warlock!" Vert added with a yell before seeming to crouch down a bit then jumping at the creature. Her maw wasn't out this time. Instead her fist was going towards it's face with super human speed and strength. If the attack hit it would at least make the creature stumble back.

A blaze could be seen in Vert's eyes. She had come to realize recently that she was in control now. No one else was in control of her. Atleast as long as the warlock wasn't near by.

@Thinslayer

This is what I mean. The entire RP is thrown out of whack because there is this "I must post as much as possible" mentality. I've already made it a point earlier to say that many people are posting half-assed. People are being left behind, the quality of posts is waning, which in turn is making people lose interest, and now with the introduction of your friend, character relationships feel forced.

Why would Xen give a shit about Vert? I don't mean that in a 'screw Vert' way, but there wasn't enough explored between all characters. Everyone was very impatient on starting the journey and all of a sudden there was a warg attack. That's fine. It's the wilderness, shit happens, but what wasn't expected was the sudden appearance of a "wtfpwnurface" character. The godmodding in Dark's post was just shocking to read and as I was contemplating how best to have Xen react to the situation, I'm now left wondering if I shouldn't just go take a seat on a log and rest my head on my hands.

I'm not sure if I'm explaining it properly, but it seems like you're attempting to shove so much into the RP so quickly that everything else is being neglected, including players.

@Cuccoruler
Ah, I read another one of your posts, did you tag me in it?

@Thinslayer
I did not see @Cuccoruler's answer reply as I don't think that I was tagged in the post. I was always reading during the whole story and I check this site every morning. What I'm trying to say is that I'm trying to fit in what I can.

@XenoCyanide@Thinslayer
Yes I think that Xeno's reply seems quite about right. You've been basically too structuring as your job as GM and I know that it is a big responsibility but if you make sure to keep both a kind and gentle hand on the RP as well as making sure that everything is in order that would be nice. Just a suggestion here because as soon as I entered the RP I felt like everything was so forced and structured and hard wired.

@Thinslayer

This is what I mean. The entire RP is thrown out of whack because there is this "I must post as much as possible" mentality. I've already made it a point earlier to say that many people are posting half-assed. People are being left behind, the quality of posts is waning, which in turn is making people lose interest, and now with the introduction of your friend, character relationships feel forced.

Why would Xen give a shit about Vert? I don't mean that in a 'screw Vert' way, but there wasn't enough explored between all characters. Everyone was very impatient on starting the journey and all of a sudden there was a warg attack. That's fine. It's the wilderness, shit happens, but what wasn't expected was the sudden appearance of a "wtfpwnurface" character. The godmodding in Dark's post was just shocking to read and as I was contemplating how best to have Xen react to the situation, I'm now left wondering if I shouldn't just go take a seat on a log and rest my head on my hands.

I'm not sure if I'm explaining it properly, but it seems like you're attempting to shove so much into the RP so quickly that everything else is being neglected, including players.

Darkwatck wasn't godmodding. He's playing the Warlock, and we worked out the details of the spell he just cast. It's powerful, but there are ways to beat it. The Heart Rings are one of them.

As for the RP, speed wasn't what I was aiming for. I was aiming for ease of access. I have personally abandoned many RPs whenever I felt overwhelmed. I would rather have an RP full of shitty posts than a dead one. Now, theory and real life don't always coincide, so we're going to see if instituting a posting order will help keep the RP alive.

@Thinslayer

Completely rendering players useless in one post without allowing them to counter is, in my opinion, god modding. The point is moot, however, since you're the GM and you allowed it.

I also think that this mentality right here -> I would rather have an RP full of shitty posts than a dead one. <- belongs in Free Roleplay.

People who RP in Casual or Advanced have a certain inherent expectation. Do not take this as me saying your RP sucks. That is not what I am saying. What I am leaning towards is that you are attempting to sell a product to people who care very little for it.

@XenoCyanide@Thinslayer
Yes I think that Xeno's reply seems quite about right. You've been basically too structuring as your job as GM and I know that it is a big responsibility but if you make sure to keep both a kind and gentle hand on the RP as well as making sure that everything is in order that would be nice. Just a suggestion here because as soon as I entered the RP I felt like everything was so forced and structured and hard wired.

I can understand that. You're not entirely wrong - I do tend to err on the side of more structuring. But at the same time, I've done my darndest to give players the freedom to carve their own path through the RP, and nobody takes the hint, so I pretty much have to go back to a more structured RP.

Everyone's characters have always been free to do whatever they want. You didn't have to join the party. You didn't have to submit to Xen'Desh's leadership. You can leave the party at any time, and even join the Warlock if you want. I'll support you if you want to do something different. In fact, Kaite almost did just that.

The fact that she didn't is the basis for this RP. That's the big secret of this story, and the true premise behind it all - if you follow the main path laid out for you, you'll find yourself playing the role of the villain. Fighting destiny, the "destiny" I've given you, is where the fun really begins.

ok I hate to be devils advocate but I gotta ask.

What do you think the difference between a casual rp and a advanced rp is?

Cause what @xenocyanide seems to want to me is an advanced rp. This is casual isn't it? Didn't we all come here to have fun?

@Cuccoruler

Casual RP is 3-5 paragraphs of semi-detailed responses that focus more on character development and interaction.

Advanced RP is 5+ paragraphs that give great detail about the environment, characters, situations, or actions. It is also known to have a far more sophisticated history behind the RP. A lot has been thought out beforehand to provide a foundation for the RP.

Free RP is any and all. I could respond with He just stood there, twiddling his thumbs. and it would be accepted as valid.

fuck I got ninja'd

ok I hate to be devils advocate but I gotta ask.

What do you think the difference between a casual rp and a advanced rp is?

Cause what @xenocyanide seems to want to me is an advanced rp. This is casual isn't it? Didn't we all come here to have fun?

A casual RP bridges the gap between accessible fun and controlled story structure. Advanced RPs require a deep understanding of literary technique, which entails impeccable grammer, quality writing skills, and good storytelling ability. You have to consider not just how good your individual post is, but how it fits into the greater whole of the tale.

I can pull that off in a pinch, but it's a lot of work. Casual takes a load off without sacrificing too much of the story, at a cost of reduced post quality. A downside of casual RP is that stories can more easily go off the rails into dead ends.

EDIT: What Xeno said.

@Cuccoruler

I'll give you an example of an Advanced RP.

roleplayerguild.com/topics/154033/ic

Edit: For quick comparison, below is a Free RP

roleplayerguild.com/topics/150993-summ..

and I just remebered. There are different degrees of casual here. Would this rp be Low-Casual or High casual?

@Cuccoruler

This started as mid-casual and has since devolved into free. In my opinion, that is.

and I just remebered. There are different degrees of casual here. Would this rp be Low-Casual or High casual?

It depends on what you mean by the terms. But I think you're asking the wrong question. I designed the RP to be easily accessible while keeping a higher degree of control over character and post quality. "Casual" seemed like the best fit for my goals.

Put another way, I didn't craft the RP around casual-ness; I chose the casual tag because of how the RP was crafted. A better question to ask is, "What kind of RP do we really want?"

@ineffable
I'm sorry. I'm just really conflicted right now. On the one hand, I completely understand - I often engage in multiple RPs myself, sometimes to the detriment of the previous ones. And frankly, that's not very good RP behavior, and I'm not really in a good position to criticize you on that point. Which leads to my feelings on the other hand: You haven't posted for days. You're more valuable to the story than you realize, and many of us have been waiting on you. All this time we've been working hard to try and accommodate you, only to find out that you've merely been absent. The last time you posted was 4 days ago. I can't rightly criticize you, but it's hard for me to sympathize, either. Can you not see my frustration here?

I even worked out a role for you in the greater plot, after weeks of worrying about your inactivity. I really liked the idea of your character, and still do. I don't ask for much. All I ask for is a half-decent post every day or do. You can post pretty much whatever and whenever you want. And if it's still too difficult for you to manage, I am prepared to lead you through the RP as a proxy character or something.

All I need in return is a little bit of loyalty. I won't ask you to stop RPing elsewhere, nor would I want you too. Heck, I could probably be persuaded to join you myself. Am I asking too much?

Okay I understand I am trying to get posts in and just saw your recent post about Laina. I understand that you are trying to accommodate her in and that's nice. I'll try to post but it would be best if we could decide on the posting order. I vote for structured posting by the way (people posting whenever it is their turn) as I see everyone's reasons.

Just wanna make sure I have this right. The big ugly bastard the champions are currently trying to fight has cast a spell that has robbed them of their strength, but said strength can be restored with but a wish upon their rings. This is what has happened, correct?

@rush99999

I will let Thin explain it, I keep a trascript of what we say on my main pc at home so ya.

Now as far as the structure posting goes, yes. I do feel it will help and might help with some problems, also thank you for the welcomes. I wasn't ignoring them, I guess I was more or less trying to get the posts out and dealing with other things in the team speak I help run...fun fun.

Anyway, let's do this and have fun with it.

Just wanna make sure I have this right. The big ugly bastard the champions are currently trying to fight has cast a spell that has robbed them of their strength, but said strength can be restored with but a wish upon their rings. This is what has happened, correct?

Yes, that's about the gist of it. The rings are connected to a mana source and casting method outside the range of the spell.