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Lowest possible rank of an NCO in various militaries.

But using them both as a rank just puzzled me.

I just haven't seen both used at the same time. Here in Finland, for example, corporal (either "korpraali" or "alikersantti", depending on translator) leads a squad, while a lieutenant (either translated as "vänrikki" or "luutnantti") leads a platoon, a company or a similar sized unit.

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But using them both as a rank just puzzled me.

I just haven't seen both used at the same time. Here in Finland, for example, corporal (either "korpraali" or "alikersantti", depending on translator) leads a squad, while a lieutenant (either translated as "vänrikki" or "luutnantti") leads a platoon, a company or a similar sized unit.

Over in England (and I believe Canada,) we have different ranks of Coporals.

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Over in England (and I believe Canada,) we have different ranks of Coporals.

Yeah, they differ a lot between countries. For example, the Finnish ranks are derived from Swedish, Russian or German languages, thanks to their influences over early modern Finland.

@Oak7ree@Lady Selune I've seen it too, and I know it's not used everywhere. But basically, Lt can modify other ranks. Lt commander is used in star trek, one rank below commander, for example. So Lt corporal would be about one rank below a corporal. Lance corporal is also one I've seen. Look up NATO ranks on wikipedia. It's a pretty good resource, though I can't seem to find Lt corporal there.

@shylarah @oak7ree
Lance corporal (LCpl or formerly L/Cpl) is the lowest ranking non-commissioned officer in the British Army and Royal Marines, between private and corporal (although officially with a NATO grade of OR3, due to them having the same battlefield role of Fire-Team commander as a US Sergeant are often treated as OR5's when working with the US Army). The badge of rank is a one-bar chevron worn on both sleeves, or on an epaulette on the front of the Combat Soldier 95 dress standard (although lance corporals in the Foot Guards, Honourable Artillery Company, 1st The Queen's Dragoon Guards and The Queen's Royal Hussars wear two-bar chevrons and in the Household Cavalry a two-bar chevron surmounted by the crown is worn). The Royal Artillery uses the term lance-bombardier instead. The designation "chosen man", used during the Napoleonic Wars, was a precursor to the rank. A common nickname for a lance corporal is "lance jack". Lance corporals are commonly addressed as "corporal".

Until 1 September 1961, lance corporal and lance bombardier were only appointments rather than substantive ranks, given to privates who were acting NCOs, and could be taken away by the soldier's commanding officer (whereas a full corporal or bombardier could only be demoted by court martial).[6] The Royal Engineers and Army Ordnance Corps also used the similar rank of second corporal, which was a substantive rank (also wearing one chevron), until 1920. Until 1920, bombardiers in the Royal Artillery were equivalent to second corporals and until 1918 (when the rank of lance bombardier replaced it) acting bombardiers were equivalent to lance corporals (both wearing one chevron).
In the infantry, a lance corporal usually serves as second-in-command of a section and commander of its delta fire team. It is also a rank commonly held by specialists such as clerks, drivers, signallers, machine-gunners, and mortarmen. In the Intelligence Corps and Royal Military Police all other ranks are promoted to lance corporal on the completion of their training.

Lance, not lieutenant, I was getting mixed up.

@shylarah @oak7ree
Lance corporal (LCpl or formerly L/Cpl) is the lowest ranking non-commissioned officer in the British Army and Royal Marines, between private and corporal (although officially with a NATO grade of OR3, due to them having the same battlefield role of Fire-Team commander as a US Sergeant are often treated as OR5's when working with the US Army). The badge of rank is a one-bar chevron worn on both sleeves, or on an epaulette on the front of the Combat Soldier 95 dress standard (although lance corporals in the Foot Guards, Honourable Artillery Company, 1st The Queen's Dragoon Guards and The Queen's Royal Hussars wear two-bar chevrons and in the Household Cavalry a two-bar chevron surmounted by the crown is worn). The Royal Artillery uses the term lance-bombardier instead. The designation "chosen man", used during the Napoleonic Wars, was a precursor to the rank. A common nickname for a lance corporal is "lance jack". Lance corporals are commonly addressed as "corporal".

Until 1 September 1961, lance corporal and lance bombardier were only appointments rather than substantive ranks, given to privates who were acting NCOs, and could be taken away by the soldier's commanding officer (whereas a full corporal or bombardier could only be demoted by court martial).[6] The Royal Engineers and Army Ordnance Corps also used the similar rank of second corporal, which was a substantive rank (also wearing one chevron), until 1920. Until 1920, bombardiers in the Royal Artillery were equivalent to second corporals and until 1918 (when the rank of lance bombardier replaced it) acting bombardiers were equivalent to lance corporals (both wearing one chevron).
In the infantry, a lance corporal usually serves as second-in-command of a section and commander of its delta fire team. It is also a rank commonly held by specialists such as clerks, drivers, signallers, machine-gunners, and mortarmen. In the Intelligence Corps and Royal Military Police all other ranks are promoted to lance corporal on the completion of their training.

Lance, not lieutenant, I was getting mixed up.

In the Finnish Army, most private-level ranks are branch-specific, and lance corporal is often a reward for exemplary service, while corporal (the first proper NCO rank in the army leads a squad or similar unit.

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In the Finnish Army, most private-level ranks are branch-specific, and lance corporal is often a reward for exemplary service, while corporal (the first proper NCO rank in the army leads a squad or similar unit.

I'm no expert, but I think that's the same way in America.
I don't know how it's handled in Spain lol, got way more important things to think about.
Like latin.
Have you ever tried to learn it?
It's fucking difficult man.

@MegaOscarPwn excuse you? It's not that hard. What're you struggling with?

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I'm no expert, but I think that's the same way in America.
I don't know how it's handled in Spain lol, got way more important things to think about.
Like latin.
Have you ever tried to learn it?
It's fucking difficult man.

So is field strpping your rifle in total darkness and having a blank jammed inside the rifle during a combat exercise.

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So is field strpping your rifle in total darkness and having a blank jammed inside the rifle during a combat exercise.

Ok. Tone the dick measuring down please.

@MegaOscarPwn I posted a link with ranks. And now I've fixed it so it works. The American equivalent seems to be Private First Class, but I'm not familiar with the specifics. Unfortunately, @Oak7ree, Finland is not on the list. This page has commanding officers and the units they generally command, but it's all ranks in English. This one mentions various ranks in English and compares between air, land, and water. There's some variation from nation to nation and between the three divisions, but the basic idea is the same.

My understanding is that a lance corporal would indeed lead a fireteam, but a full-corporal would outrank him slightly? So lance corporal, corporal, and then in some armies there seems to be something like corporal major or a super-corporal, which is a slightly higher rank. It's divisions within the rank, I guess.

Hey, guys, easy! We were having an interesting and educational discussion about comparative military ranks and their responsibilities, and now people are all salty. We cleared up the confusion, for the most part, which was only really an issue for us detail-oriented and nit-picky folks anyhow. We good, right? Right?

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Ok. Tone the dick measuring down please.

I understand. Sorry about that.

@MegaOscarPwn excuse you? It's not that hard. What're you struggling with?

EVERYTHING.
I already know English better than everyone at my high school lol, fuck Latin.
It's a dead language after all.
Also I like memes.

@MegaOscarPwn Latin is used for science. Go study! =P

@Korkoa *grins at you* Yee, this should be fun. It's always interesting playing Belasy~ <3

Well, I'm afraid I'm gonna have to drop out of this due to being really busy IRL. I know I never actually got a sheet up, but I announced that I was interested so I figured I'd just pop in to say that my CS will be on hold indefinitely.

I might toss a CS in later if my schedule lightens up and you're still accepting, but if not then I'll see you all around. Good luck with the RP, everyone.

@Simple Unicycle Sorry to see you go. ...Never join? Whichever. *snug*

I am feeling the feels all over again because of your status. *clings*

Oh yeah John Hurt died.
Only saw him in Spaceballs and Alien.
Lol.

Bar one recent post, the IC silence is deafaning.