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a n o t h e r w o r l d ' s w a r


Everyone remembers that day, whether you were at work, at school, at home or on vacation, you heard the news soon enough.
Our first contact with aliens; the skies splitting open high above Tokyo and hordes of unknown aircraft coming through. Swarms of them, alien in their looks and unearthly, sweeping through the air and strafing and bombing the buildings and anything that looked like a defence. It was only after that it was found out they'd taken hundreds of captives.
The battles in the months following drove them back, on land and in the air, and eventually, years after, Humanity had long enough to take a breather - and draw up their plans to go through the hole in space to follow the invaders back.

Now, we've established our first base on the other side, the result of massive multi-national airlifts through the 'Isolation Zone' a hundred miles around the Hole in the Sky over Toyko, and the Joint Expeditionary Force is ready to take the battle to the unknown invaders - and to discover as much about them and their world as possible on the other side...


Inspired in part by GATE, Ace Combat and Yukikaze, as well as my love for alien invasion sci-fi where military technology isn't useless, and my massive love of fighter aircraft, I've decided it's time to get back into running something on here.

The game will take place with the players as pilots in a squadron of the Joint Expeditionary Forces, stationed at the new joint base complex on the alien world on the other side of the Hole in the Sky.
The pilots will be from a multitude of countries - though will have been chosen because they can co-operate and are good at their jobs,- but will be working together. They fly a variety of aircraft from their home countries, though will tend towards multi-role craft to better enable them to work together.
The aircraft and technology in general will be modern-day/very-near-future based, though some reverse-engineered alien technology creeping in as things progress as part of the plot, especially as more is discovered about the aliens and their society, technology and origins - much like in Stargate SG-1, how the humans ended up with their own alien-derived tech and equipment.

There will be a lot of other plot elements that come up as we go too, as I intend to a have a full story as we go, and a lot of other cool ideas about the alien world. For example, if you have seen GATE, it will be similar in that it has its' own races, societies and denizens that are subjugated by the aliens, and many of them will become allies and have an important part to play in overthrowing the aliens as well.

In terms of the mechanics, I am looking to keep the group quite small, and things fairly simple. It isn't essential that you know everyhing about fighter jets, or especially every tiny technical detail. In fact, I would prefer to keep things semi-realistic, but quite light on the technical side - however, I would say that at least a functional knowledge of some terminology and understanding on how fighter aircraft and their weapons, as well as the military, works or operates is kind of essential to a degree. However, there is luckily the internet to help, and I am also more than willing to offer assistance where it is needed. All of that can be gone into more though once I get some people who are interested.

Before I inevitably get people asking as well; no you cannot play ground crew, ground combatants, non-combatants, bad guys or anything that isn't a fighter pilot for the Joint Expeditionary Forces. The game is about fighter pilots, flying modern (i.e. in service or recently in service) aircraft.

Non-real aircraft, like Ace Combat's 'super planes' or something cool you found on DeviantArt won't be in this game.
The squadron the players will be part of will also not be the 'superstar' squadron - in fact, I kind of like the idea that they're just a run-of-the-mill, average squadron that keeps getting involved in things over their paygrade by sheer luck and circumstance. Not the worst, not the best, and certainly not bad... but somehow, luck keeps finding them.
So, some of the more fancy aircraft - like your F-22's, T-50's and F-35's - will be reserved for those super-squadrons, and you're likely to have a bit more of a variety of aircraft. And then it gives everyone something to work towards, too.

There will, however, be some cool super-tech around, as the game is set in a near-future setting, and a timeline that diverged from ours around the early-2000's too. There may be some unusual weapons options for your aircraft on some missions, and mentions of weapons tech that was only ever at the prototype stage in our world making it into production, as well as other cool and unusual things that have come to pass - not to mention the aliens' own technology.

Whatever else, if any of this sounds like it could be interesting to you as a game and a story - which, after all, will be the main focus - please let me know. I'm looking for a group of no more than six, and probably a minimum of four to get started (the Expeditionary Force has small squadrons!)
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As a man who has always loved the air, I would like to show my interest.
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As a man who has always loved the air, I would like to show my interest.


Great stuff - glad to have you onboard. Hopefully we can get a few more people as well.
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Not totally my cup of tea, but i'll nibble. Interested.

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Not totally my cup of tea, but i'll nibble. Interested.

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Hopefully you'll find something to enjoy about it, and I'll do my best to keep you interested. Thanks for the interest, too.
I also love your avatar!
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Absolutely. It's been a long time since I've been in the cockpit. I think the last time that happened, I had some nice blue accents on my F-15...
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Absolutely. It's been a long time since I've been in the cockpit. I think the last time that happened, I had some nice blue accents on my F-15...


I'll be glad to have you aboard then! Definitely pleased to have another player, and especially one who likes F-15's too. They're one of my favourite aircraft as well.

We need one more person - though more would be better - to begin. Hopefully we'll get someone soon, though I could run it with just three and myself.
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Dibs on Mig-31
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The F-15 is my favorite jet aircraft. If we ever go get super fighters, you can bet I'd want an F-15 STOL/MTD.
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Dibs on Mig-31


Good choice! I like the MiG-25 and -31 for their sheer brute power. The angular look has something going for it too.

The F-15 is my favorite jet aircraft. If we ever go get super fighters, you can bet I'd want an F-15 STOL/MTD.


That's definitely a good route to go down. There probably will be upgrades as the game goes on, allowing fighters to use a wider range of weapons and increase some of their abilities etc. Though, it'll be over time and as a significant point of change in the story as things escalate, rather than a 'spend xp = mods' kind of thing.

I'll probably have a player character as well, not sure what aircraft I'll take. I do love the F-15 as well, but I'm tempted to go for something a bit different. I might go for a Tornado, or a Harrier.

I'll also get working on the OOC tomorrow and hopefully have it up by the evening (UK time). At least then we can get working on stuff, and it might attract some more interest too.
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I'd suggest somethign chinese.
-Or a ground pounder.

A sexy one ofc.

Or if you want the ugly yet competant duckling, anything Isreali, French, or South African.

MiG-23 FTW. Otherwise Mirage 5D.
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The main problem with the MiG-25 and MiG-31 is that they're supersonic high-altitude bomber interceptors and they can't turn for shit. The F-15 was made as a counter to the Foxbat and later Foxhound.

Think I'll start on an F-14D and then to an F-15E. Gonna app a REO alongside the pilot.
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The main problem with the MiG-25 and MiG-31 is that they're supersonic high-altitude bomber interceptors and they can't turn for shit. The F-15 was made as a counter to the Foxbat and later Foxhound.

Think I'll start on an F-14D and then to an F-15E. Gonna app a REO alongside the pilot.


MiG-31 still does alright in AEW, ECM, and photo-recon missions, though.
-Or for pissing off a flight to scramble early and GTFO, or to intercept a flight during mid-air refuel.
(Its wide flight vector would [distance it can cover in the time a flight can be sent to intercept] means it can cause ALOT of disruption to airfields simply by existing)

Strap some passive-radar guided ARMs to it, and they perform pretty decent SEAD(L) missions.

Probably going to get my MiG-23 to work closely with the MiG-31 until they can haz upgrade to Sukhoi airframes with companion-cubes mini-fridges.
(tempted to either pair two MiG-23s with teh MiG-31 for Migcap, or just "Borrow" the F-14 for a decent wingman)

Silver is probably taking the F-15A/C... just a guess. Making them the super-fighter of the flight.
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Silver is probably taking the F-15A/C... just a guess. Making them the super-fighter of the flight.


Actually, no - see my post above. I'm probably going to have an AV-8B, I was hmming and haaing over a Tornado as well; I'm still not quite decided and I'll probably do so once I've thought more about my character(s). Depends on if I want to create a pair or a single character.
I'll probably end up going with the Harrier II since I'd rather just run a single character.

I'll try and get the OOC up this evening. I have a couple of other things I need to do, so it's more likely to be tomorrow than tonight.
Also, glad you're joining us too, Foster; I wasn't sure from your initial post, but from your second one I gather you're along for the ride :)
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Figured I could use a changeup from spamming apps in Chengdu J-7s, McDonnel-D F-4E Phantom IIs, and Lockheed F-5Es.

Hopefully you won't get overstressed with work this May. ;)

BTW: AV-8B "Plus" model. The British model lacks a cannon... or radar.
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@Silverwind Blade
Haven't seen you in a while. Was honestly quite surprised when I saw that you had recently taken a look at my profile.

However, I am interested in joining this.
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MiG-31 still does alright in AEW, ECM, and photo-recon missions, though.
-Or for pissing off a flight to scramble early and GTFO, or to intercept a flight during mid-air refuel.
(Its wide flight vector would [distance it can cover in the time a flight can be sent to intercept] means it can cause ALOT of disruption to airfields simply by existing)

Strap some passive-radar guided ARMs to it, and they perform pretty decent SEAD(L) missions.

Probably going to get my MiG-23 to work closely with the MiG-31 until they can haz upgrade to Sukhoi airframes with companion-cubes mini-fridges.
(tempted to either pair two MiG-23s with teh MiG-31 for Migcap, or just "Borrow" the F-14 for a decent wingman)

Silver is probably taking the F-15A/C... just a guess. Making them the super-fighter of the flight.

Yeah but if you get painted by an enemy aircraft, it's over. The thing cannot dogfight worth shit.
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Yeah but if you get painted by an enemy aircraft, it's over. The thing cannot dogfight worth shit.


That Zaslon radar tho... Able to track and engage 10 targets out to 200 km out.
-Ultimately, its limiting factor is the ability to only hold 4 R-33 missiles (range of 300 km).
-Or six R-37s (200 km range)

MiG-31 BSM had in-flight refuel, an integral cannon, and an improved radar able to track and engage 24 targets out to 320 km.
-At which point it has command-authority to launch SAMs and various other strategic-level assets.
(because is Russia)

So think of it less as an ersatz F-14, and more like an E-3 that is vaugely capable of dogfighting.
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BTW: AV-8B "Plus" model. The British model lacks a cannon... or radar.


Thanks, but I do know quite a bit about aircraft - hence the interest in running this game xD
And you're not quite accurate - the British GR- Harriers - the ones used by the RAF - didn't carry radar, as they were primarily oriented on ground attack (and they were bloody good at it). The Sea Harriers used by the Royal Navy carried radar, as they operated from HMS Invincible and other RN aircraft carriers as their primary fighters, and did a fine job of it during the Falklands War in particular.
Both types could also be equipped with underfuselage 30mm ADEN gun pods, that looked much the same as the 25mm gun pod used by the AV-8B.

I'll be using an AV-8B though, so it's not particularly relevant! xD

Haven't seen you in a while. Was honestly quite surprised when I saw that you had recently taken a look at my profile.

However, I am interested in joining this.


Yeah, I took a break for a while - I got a bit burned out and frustrated with things so I needed some time away. However, I've got the RP itch again, so here I am. I had a look to see what all my friends were up to when I was back though, hence the look at your profile. Good to see you here again, and I'd be happy to have you onboard as well.

I'm working on the OOC, will be up this evening, UK time.
FYI in case I'm slow on responses or people wonder where I am; I work full-time and I run on GMT, so I'm in a different time zone to you US peoples, and I don't have as much time to check and respond to things as I might like, but I do my best.
Also, adult responsibilities, since I live with my partner, so cooking, cleaning, etc also have to come first :P
I also have other hobbies too, and I like to share my time - expect 1 post a week-ish (maybe two!) in the IC from me when we get going, and plenty of OOC chit-chat.

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Surprised Silver didn't catch that thing in my first post...
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