@Buddha oh lighten up

@Grimhildr Maybe you should just threaten to kill me while you're at it. Will add skin to my bones.

lmao i can't believe you're comparing, what, third grade insults to a death threat. maybe there truly is no saving you.

@Dynamo Frokane you're retarded

@Dynamo Frokane judging from the meme I guess I must've heard it in a rap song, right?

@Dynamo Frokane judging from the meme I guess I must've heard it in a rap song, right?

Its just a meme, no need to make shit racial.

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Well if the back and forth arguing wont get me thread locked, an oddly placed racial slur definitely will...

You can always request to have your thread locked you know.

@Dynamo Frokane your thinly veiled trolling attempts really are either lazy at best and just stupid at worst. Given our past interactions, I'd have thought you would have the social awareness to avoid interacting with me much less crack """"jokes"""" at my expense, so when I returned the favor your response is 'lel dude lighten up.' Shows how cheery and bright you are yourself.

And evidently, I just heard the word in a rap song. So, I mean, can you really blame me, 'homie'? Cause that's the type of person I am.

@NuttsnBolts I didnt say I want the thread locked, Im just pointing put the things that would make it happen. This was actually a rather good thread.

But I take it you disagree?

@Buddha That's fair enough, that verse calling out to other rappers was an important thing to his career. And maybe that helped give him some hype, in a similar way Hopsin doing a similar thing garnered him a bunch of popularity. The reason I say metal is the most expansive because it has tons of genres and influences many more genres on top of that. And has more concept albums that just push the bounds of "a collection of songs" that a lot of albums are. But I will say, I probably listen to as much rap as I do metal now...

As much as I'd freaking love a rap equivalent of Diablo Swing Orchestra or Haggard or Eluveitie, I don't think it exists. :c

Both genres honestly have a lot of similarities at least in public perception. They do probably have the most ways to vocalize the lyrics at hand. Metal incorporating all genres for vocalists and rap having a bunch of different flow methods and such. Often mostly criticized by people unaware of the genre, media saying it has connections to bad actions when most the music is harmless. When people claim to listen to everything, put on "the talky noise" "or the screaming" and suddenly want you to turn it off. Also rap metal is always a glorious guilty pleasure.

Also MF Doom is fun. :3

The reason I say metal is the most expansive

Nah, that definition fits electronic music as a genre/medium far more than it does metal.

@NuttsnBolts I didnt say I want the thread locked, Im just pointing put the things that would make it happen. This was actually a rather good thread.

But I take it you disagree?

Well cause the clowns are in full swing it might be easier to shut this one down, wait a few days for the red mist to settle, and make a new thread with a touch of difference so it's similar, yet a slightly different discussion.

@Buddha That's fair enough, that verse calling out to other rappers was an important thing to his career. And maybe that helped give him some hype, in a similar way Hopsin doing a similar thing garnered him a bunch of popularity. The reason I say metal is the most expansive because it has tons of genres and influences many more genres on top of that. And has more concept albums that just push the bounds of "a collection of songs" that a lot of albums are. But I will say, I probably listen to as much rap as I do metal now...

I mean that really just depends. I'm not a big fan of Hopsin personally because he's just doing the same shtick over and over ('oh these new rappers suck, blabla, look how deep I am'). He's just a rapper that poses as something else, something different, to get that attention. Which is a good business move but after the first few tracks where he repeated that shtick over and over, it just got boring to me.

As much as I'd freaking love a rap equivalent of Diablo Swing Orchestra or Haggard or Eluveitie, I don't think it exists. :c

Err, can't think of anything right away. I know there's probably 'rap groups' that do something like that but I wouldn't really know who that is specifically.

Both genres honestly have a lot of similarities at least in public perception. They do probably have the most ways to vocalize the lyrics at hand. Metal incorporating all genres for vocalists and rap having a bunch of different flow methods and such. Often mostly criticized by people unaware of the genre, media saying it has connections to bad actions when most the music is harmless. When people claim to listen to everything, put on "the talky noise" "or the screaming" and suddenly want you to turn it off. Also rap metal is always a glorious guilty pleasure.

Also MF Doom is fun. :3

I think metal is just very limited by the instruments. There's not a lot of options available, like yeah you got these different riffs and shit and yeah there's a lot of things you can do with that, but in the end, you will find a lot of songs have a similar structure. With rap I feel that's less the case. Or less often perhaps.

@Buddha Well escalating meme jabs to a racist word isnt really returning the favor, especially when I know what race you are and you know what race I am. It wasn't exactly an accident was it?

Either way, I'm not the word police, I just hope you are using that word because you think its a cool hip hop thing and not that its actually acceptable to call black or minority people that term.

@Inkarnate Hmm, maybe? At least if you consider the long list of genre's in it too. But I don't know I think it could be argued. But there's metal has electronic stuff mixed in it too though...Also lyrically electronica/edm is probably one of the weaker genres in general for lyrical variety.

@Inkarnate Hmm, maybe? At least if you consider the long list of genre's in it too. But I don't know I think it could be argued. But there's metal has electronic stuff mixed in it too though...Also lyrically electronica/edm is probably one of the weaker genres in general for lyrical variety.

Well it is a good thing electronic music is not “about” lyrics in the first place, huh?

But yes, even if you cite out-of-date records within the medium such as Ishkur’s Guide, electronic music is one of the widest and most far-reaching musical genres in contemporary history. Keep in mind I would probably give Metal the #2 spot in terms of genre spread.

@Dynamo Frokane I don't actually know what race you are. I just know you lightskin, but I guess you see yourself as black, so that's ok. And no, it wasn't an accident, I stand by what I said. I don't appreciate your meme jabs. I would appreciate them if you could take hits back, but every single past experience I've had with you has shown otherwise.

Unless you wanna start exchanging shots now, because I can do that too?

@NuttsnBolts I didnt say I want the thread locked, Im just pointing put the things that would make it happen. This was actually a rather good thread.

But I take it you disagree?

this thread was doomed from the start tbh. like i said previously, asking someone to try and convey their own personal opinion on the appeal of something as subjective or as fact is bound to lead to debates and arguments eventually.