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@Moonlit Sonata Since the other RP's I'm currently in are going a bit slow at the moment, I'm thinking I might be able to app a Master for this one as well. However, I'm not quite sure yet, since I'd still like to play as somebody's Servant as well, but I'm worried he/she will wind up getting stuck in the waiting room with all the other Servants nobody has picked up yet. What do you think?
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@Moonlit Sonata Since the other RP's I'm currently in are going a bit slow at the moment, I'm thinking I might be able to app a Master for this one as well. However, I'm not quite sure yet, since I'd still like to play as somebody's Servant as well, but I'm worried he/she will wind up getting stuck in the waiting room with all the other Servants nobody has picked up yet. What do you think?


You're more than fine to app a Master. A Servant's a bit iffier but still allowable. I'll likely be making a pseudo-NPC Master in a bit to try and fix part of that imbalance.

Also paging @ConstantlyComic.
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Alright, so, with Player 2's return and a new entrant, I'm going to take the time to reorganize things. To my knowledge, here are the current participants:

@Breo @Holy Grail @DrowsyPangolin @Beloss @Cu Chulainn @Ijoyen @Yukitamas @Berserk Gene @Player 2 @Kost Alter

Here are those whose status I'm not sure about (please try to notify me within 48 hours regarding your status):

@Psyker Landshark @Asuras @ConstantlyComic

And here are those presumed inactive:

@WildChocobo @GreenGoat @SIGINT

Given this, the pairs that are stable are:

Chi You, Odysseus, Yukimura, Rostam, Norton, and (when approved) Wolf Boy.

In the case of these teams, I advise posting to keep things moving along.

The pairs that are potentially unstable are:

Siegfried (Master), Hugues (Both), Cao Cao (Servant). If necessary, then, the Master of Cao Cao's team and Servant of Siegfried's can partner.

In addition, we have either one or two Servants who currently lack Masters. One of these can be fixed by Kost Alter's Master. I'm unsure about if Berserk Gene is still making a Master. If needed, I will be making a pseudo-NPC Master who will either take Kost Alter's Servant or the remaining unpartnered Servant.

This actually means we should be able to get things balanced out with a bit of luck, so yay.
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In the case of these teams, I advise posting to keep things moving along.


@Moonlit Sonata My next post will be made Sunday due to shifts at work i have today and tomorrow. Same for the Apotheosis RP just to give ya a head's up on that as well.
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@Moonlit Sonata Alrighty, here's my 2 apps for this, let me know if any changes need to be done.











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The primary issue here is the lack of information we have on the Ainsworths in Prisma and thus my hesitance to introduce them to the roleplay at the current time. If Prisma was further along then I'd be more receptive, but as it is with our limited knowledge on them, that's a very iffy proposition. Moreover, given whom the Ainsworths replace in the Miyuverse and the fact that said family very much does exist in the world of the roleplay, I'm altogether shaky on this. I'd heavily advise pursuing something non-Ainsworth in nature; you can use a family that specializes in Displacement, but the Ainsworths in particular have a lot of baggage we've yet to unpack, so I'm viewing them in a similar light that I would with say, the Strange Fake cast. Though obviously different given Prisma's status, but still.

A serum that would suppress the conceptual mind of a thousand year magus would be something absolutely incredible (and would require knowledge that he blatantly doesn't have), and moreover would probably result in myriad negative impacts. Moreover, we don't know that the means by which the conceptual mind is retained are a curse (and I doubt that's the case, but that's a different matter).

Ainsworth-tier Displacement is suitable for an Ainsworth; however, that's still problematic for reasons already given.



She doesn't have something like Asterios or Gorgon's skills, so STR to D, AGI to B.

The parameter increases from Monstrous Strength won't be continuously active since Monstrous Strength isn't continuously active. You can make it continuously active, though.

Expound on applications of the Oath skill beyond LCK checks.

Keep in mind that massive manipulation of water will have a corresponding prana cost.

The second NP is pretty baseless and I'm guessing you acknowledge that, given that you're taking "first girl molested by tentacles" and turning it into "girl who can control tentacles that ignore all defenses and trigger mental interference on the target". You can use the Medusa justification of "but Medusa uses the stuff that fucked her over like Bellerophon and Harpe too", but that's only really allotted in my eyes because those are canon.

Most importantly, I have no idea why she's a Caster when she has no magical ability whatsoever. Even the water manipulation isn't magecraft (artificial mystery) so much as an ability inherent to the Phantasm Races (natural mystery), so she doesn't qualify anymore than, say, Ibaraki would.
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Roger. I'll probably rework the master into someone non-Ainsworthy to avoid the potential issues you mentioned (which would consequently get rid of the curse thing altogether, so no problem there).

As I've said I have no problem cutting Caster's 2nd NP altogether, and I probably will do just that, since it'd be pretty useless in the context of this war anyway (trying to get all touchy-feely in the middle of a waging battle sounds like a great way to get killed, lol). As for the other stuff about her you mentioned, particularly her Class, it may take me some more time to figure out how to change them. I'll let you know when I've made significant changes to either app (I'll prioritize the Master app for now).
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I am here and in the midst of making another post; I just got screwed up by computer problems, my work schedule picking up, and my summer classes starting.
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@Holy GrailYou gona post soon Holy Grail?
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@Beloss I will be posting tomorrow on Sunday. As i mentioned to Moonlit yesterday, i have work today as well and won't be able to get in a post until tomorrow as such.

Takes me a while to type out a post for this RP as well, so with only about an hour until i have to leave for today's shift i wouldn't be able to finish! XD

I apologize for these irl delays, however. Irl things have been kicking my butt slightly more than normal the last about 2-3 weeks, but this Sunday i should be back on track and posting more often.
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@Moonlit Sonata Okay so, minor update. I've done the changes you requested on Caster's sheet. However, I'm still having a hard time figuring out the whole "why is she even a Caster" debate. I mean, her NP is capable of producing mysteries, shouldn't that be enough for her to qualify? The qualifications for a heroic spirit to be a Caster in general confuse me, because of there being canon servants who weren't magi in life, like Gilles (though he's supposedly an irregular servant, so idk), Andersen, Shakespeare and Nursery Rhyme who's literally just a book. Some help would for sure be appreciated.

As for my Master app, I'm still thinking of ways to change it. I'll try to get it reworked sometime tomorrow if I can.
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@Moonlit Sonata Okay so, minor update. I've done the changes you requested on Caster's sheet. However, I'm still having a hard time figuring out the whole "why is she even a Caster" debate. I mean, her NP is capable of producing mysteries, shouldn't that be enough for her to qualify? The qualifications for a heroic spirit to be a Caster in general confuse me, because of there being canon servants who weren't magi in life, like Gilles (though he's supposedly an irregular servant, so idk), Andersen, Shakespeare and Nursery Rhyme who's literally just a book. Some help would for sure be appreciated.

As for my Master app, I'm still thinking of ways to change it. I'll try to get it reworked sometime tomorrow if I can.


Every NP has mystery given that an NP's a crystallized legend, so I'm not sure what your point is? If you mean it generates nature interference, then like I said as it is, that's not magecraft (artificial mystery) so much as an ability inherent to the Phantasm Races (natural mystery), so she doesn't qualify anymore than, say, Ibaraki would.

Nursery Rhyme's not a book, she's a Reality Marble.

Gilles has a book that does magecraft and is a bootleg Caster.

Author Casters have been a thing for a while and it's worth reading their respective source material to see what their shtick is, which makes it pretty apparent why they work as Casters.
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I see, my mistake. What if I added something like the following line:



This would make it so that she can artificially use water magics on her own, but she would still need to actually invoke her NP's true name in order to use the more broken stuff (like the tsunami for example), thus keeping things balanced. Do you think this would fix the issue? If not, I'm open to other suggestions.




EDIT: I have also finished reworking my Master app. Backstory has been changed, any references to the Ainsworths have been removed, and nerfed his displacement magecraft a bit (by removing the whole putting people's souls in dolls thing from Prisma Illya). Also, since his family are still supposedly bigshots, he'd be classified as a "Known" Master, correct?


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I'm still iffy on it given that the way she's getting these abilities is through being monster'd, so it's not really magecraft. What the Phantasm Races do is nature interference, but it isn't magecraft. Think all of the stuff covered by Ibaraki and Shuten's Oni skills.

I'm open to allowing it, I guess, but eh.




Keep in mind the limits as a human modern-day magus. IE, don't use the dolls or Julius-Darian as benchmarks, and remember the importance of aria times.

This is an aside, but True Magic can't negate the absoluteness of death. There is no miracle that can truly revive the dead. All True Magic can do is stuff that doesn't actually revive them. Alternatively if you're in a time temple you can have a Beast give you his unmeiryoku

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This is an aside, but True Magic can't negate the absoluteness of death. There is no miracle that can truly revive the dead. All True Magic can do is stuff that doesn't actually revive them. Alternatively if you're in a time temple you can have a Beast give you his unmeiryoku


It can't? Well, it's no big deal, I put that line in there more for flavor. I've edited it out now.

So, I take it that I'm good to post my Master app in the Character tab?
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It can't? Well, it's no big deal, I put that line in there more for flavor. I've edited it out now.

So, I take it that I'm good to post my Master app in the Character tab?


A true resurrection of the dead's impossible. What True Magic does let you do is something like nab an infinitely similar doppelganger from another world, or move the time he was dead so it's not a resurrection since he was never really dead, or something. "Haha look I totally didn't resurrect him see?"

Yeah you're good.
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@Moonlit Sonata@Beloss@DrowsyPangolin Rejoice, all who read these words: I have posted! XD
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Maybe you could do a Monte Cristo thing and have the jewel be akin to a special magic crest or something?
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Maybe you could do a Monte Cristo thing and have the jewel be akin to a special magic crest or something?


That's kind of what I did, but it still doesn't fix the issue by the looks of it. I don't know what else to do currently, so I appreciate your help.
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That's kind of what I did, but it still doesn't fix the issue by the looks of it. I don't know what else to do currently, so I appreciate your help.


The Monte Cristo Mythologie method would make it fine. It's just a matter of reconciling the monstrous transformation with the magecraft usage, which that does, since it partitions the effects cleaner.
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