@Regitnui
I never said they weren't :P

They're just very interesting given the direct influence this particular bunch are having from the High Venom.

@ihinka, Here's your tag for the new IC post.

@Regitnui There... I hope I tugged the thread to it's end

@FlamelordHe's using a small handgun, right? I don't think small caliber bullets would be enough to penetrate the roof of a car. Of course, I'm not positive on that--that goes a bit more into physics than I've studied. If it's that important to you, we can work out a change.

@Sedjwick
At close range, yes even a small hand gun would penetrate.

However, if the windstorm inside was really strong, the aim would either be incredibly screwed, or slow them down enough for what you said to be the outcome. But that would need to be incredibly strong.

My understanding is that it is not that strong.

So, GM-logic ruling here.
The bullets pierce the van.

They won't be affected enough to matter in such a small area.

Sorry Sedj. Just basic bullet stuff.

Okay, no worries. I'll edit the post accordingly when I get the chance.

Gonna give this a shot....

Name: John Smith

Epic Identity: That Guy

Age: 30

Faction: Epic

Ability:
[Absolute World]
It is impossible for John to see superpowers. This is not to say he has some form of magical blindness that makes superpowers invisible to him, but simply that they cannot exist within his perception. No supernatural ability or even may directly alter his subjective world. If he were to look at a flying person, said flier would drop out of the sky like a rock. More likely he would already be on the ground with a lump on his head, wondering how he got there. A telepath could read his mind but not influence it, besides in incredibly subtle ways. Any change that he would notice, or attempting to alter what he notices, will fail. To him Freaks look like normal people, and in his presence they are forced to act that way as well, supernatural abilities failing to work in any noticeable way. Unnoticeable abilities like telepathy will still function, as long as one does not try to talk to John. Secondary effects also apply. Powers that could reasonably be passed for mundane may work. If you fireball a building while John isn't looking he'll just assume that it's a terrorist bombing, and therefore the fireball will work. This power works through reflections, but not through tvs or cameras.

Weakness:
If one could convince John that they really have powers, they would become an exception to Absolute World. Things like cameras can capture the supernatural even when John uses them, and can therefore convince him that something is 'real'. It would then become an exception to his 'Absolute World' power, and be able to function while everything else is not. If he can see his own eyes, such as in a reflection, then his power short-circuits and negates itself. This works as long as he continues to look at his reflection.

Personality:
The entire world is filled with crazy people. The massive media machine panders to these so-called 'superheroes' using special effects and cgi to look like they have superpowers on tv. Ridiculous theories like an 'invasion of rat people' or 'the ones above'. The whole thing is a bunch of malarkey, of course, comic fodder fed to the 'sheeple' of the world. John lives his day-to-day life, performing a meaningless job while lamenting the sorry state of the world. He's irritable and grumpy due to constant pestering by 'epics' claiming that their powers ARE real, they just aren't working for some reason. Despite being only in his thirties he has a tendency to refer to 'the old days', before all this superpowers nonsense started. It's all because of video games, and watching too much tv.

Appearance:
picture to be added.

Background:
Growing up in a relative quiet village, John Smith didn't interact with Epics for his entire life. His family was a group of crazy people who denied the existence of Epics, Freaks, and magical animals. This may have shaped his particular power, which certainly assisted in his family's denial as he grew up. He soon learned to hate the news groups, and the people shouting in the streets, and all those other kids in class convinced that they 'met a superhero' or even that they had powers themselves. It took a while for people to start figuring out that something was going on, as powers just seemed to stop working proper when John was around. There was some investigation (which of course he and his family found preposterous) but all tests showed John to be normal. Almost TOO normal.

Shortly after his powers were discovered John was offered a job in Epic City. Small-time office job, lots of free time, decent pay. He was encouraged to take strolls in particular areas of the town by his very friendly employer. John, being a big fan of long walks, was happy to do so. As such he's been walking the streets frequently, much to the dismay of anyone with the ability to fly. Ironically he's managed to befriend a number of Freaks, who find his complete inability to distinguish them from normal humans a welcome change. While initially several supervillains attempted to 'deal with him' for getting in their way, all they managed to do was look silly while pointing and shouting at him. Unwilling to be humiliated, heroes and villains alike tend to avoid him and his strange superpower.

@thewizardguy

I'm going to leave that for Reg.

But be ready that I'm not sure it'll get accepted.

@Regitnui

@thewizardguy, OK, just out of curiosity, what happens if That Guy sees Marching House, who's no longer even humanoid?

But that's just out of curiosity. It's rare I say outright no, but a walking antimagic zone is incredibly dangerous and even counterproductive. Aizen was not a good villain, and this is not a good concept for this RPG. Sorry.

And fixed, @Flamelord@Old Amsterdam. The end result is the same, but the revision really does work better, I think.

@Sedjwick
Yes, I agree. That seems like a better solution.

@Sedjwick
Yes, I agree. That seems like a better solution.

@Regitnui
As stated, he sees Freaks as normal people, and interacts with them as such.

Shame, I liked John's character concept. Oh well. Might make another, might not.

@thewizardguy, but surely there's a certain amount of disconnect? Marching House is about five foot in diameter, and not at all humanoid. He might see a girl, but he'd get a shell in the hip if he tried to step close enough to put a hand on her shoulder.

The reason I'm saying no is because a number of these powers, if nullified, are outright lethal. Spectrum would lose their armour and then be rendered helpless by agoraphobia, and anything in Traveler's portals would get Portal Cut. An Epic Skeptic, or a scientist trying to get to the bottom of powers in general, the concept is fine.

The walking antimagic zone gives me the heebie-jeebies. Any wielder of that ability becomes the most important being in the setting by default. The Kryptonites want to recruit you and weaponize the ability, the High want to dissect you mentally, physically and temporally, and every Epic on the planet wants you either gone or dead.

@Regitnui
He interacts with such a being as if they really were a humanoid. That is to say, he could walk 'into' her shell and hold her now maybe non-existant hand. In the same way that he could beat a super-strong Epic in an arm-wrestling competition or walk through a barrage of magical lasers like they weren't there.

Also, it's not just negation. A flying super would not drop out of the sky, they would already be on the ground as if they never had the power to fly in the first place. Nobody would get portal-cut, because they'd either be here or they'd have never left their destination in the first place.

I hadn't considered the large-scale ramifications of his power, I admit. I just liked the idea of a grumpy old man shouting at people for thinking superpowers were real, and nobody being able to refute him because of his weird power. So I'm not arguing that your rejection was not justified, it was. Just that it's a shame, because I liked the character concept.

I kinda like the character, so I wonder if there's another way to make the character work without jeopardizing everyone else in the game

An epic denier who straight up can't see or be affected by epics, maybe to him everything is treated as normal but it doesn't actually nullify powers? So he can't be harmed by epic powers and he can't see them, but they aren't nullified around him

Idk lol I just woke up

@Mercenary Lord
I appreciate the thought, but I don't think it solves the issues Regitnui brought up. Namely that he'd spontaneously become immensely important, and the Ones on High probably wouldn't let someone like that walk around.

@thewizardguy, again, I love the idea, but I think it'd be a bad idea for this RPG. The character, without powers, could work well. In the interest of keeping focus on everyone, I can't really let that power join. An NPC Macguffin for a Powered By A Forsaken Child anti-Epic Kryptonite mad science device, sure. Not as a player character.

I have too much fun playing Venom and Nightmare.

Ooooh poison resistance? Hoping that's permanent.