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I maintain that Lost Odyssey and Operation flashpoint: dragon Rising are two of the most underrated games of the last generation(360 era).

Also FF12 was my favorite and I am thoroughly enjoying Zodiac Age.
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I maintain that Lost Odyssey and Operation flashpoint: dragon Rising are two of the most underrated games of the last generation(360 era).

Lost Odyssey is a bit of a gem that a lot of RPG fans have seemingly forgotten about, I agree. It’s been a long time (since launch) since I’ve had a hands on a copy and played it to completion but I remember that at the time it was the better RPG of the two I was playing and I really ought to find a way to play it again.
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Lost Odyssey is a bit of a gem that a lot of RPG fans have seemingly forgotten about, I agree. It’s been a long time (since launch) since I’ve had a hands on a copy and played it to completion but I remember that at the time it was the better RPG of the two I was playing and I really ought to find a way to play it again.


I have it, but no longer possess a 360. Maybe I'll get lucky and they'll remake it for the PS4.
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Lost Odyssey is a bit of a gem that a lot of RPG fans have seemingly forgotten about, I agree. It’s been a long time (since launch) since I’ve had a hands on a copy and played it to completion but I remember that at the time it was the better RPG of the two I was playing and I really ought to find a way to play it again.


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Sonic Adventure is one of those games that gets praise just for not being a shit sonic game. But lets be real here, not only has the game aged like milk, but try playing any of the non-sonic and shadow levels without getting a headache. The cut-scenes have even lost their ironic charm at this point and just make you feel unsettled.

Bad camera, bad bosses, glitched as hell, nonsense story and the worst pacing, I really don't think this game should get a pass because it has some decent sonic and shadow levels and an addictive chao garden.

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Now this is a tricky one because its definitely not an unheard of game and it absolutely got amazing reviews, but holy crap this game is not brought up enough, its EASILY one of the best fighting games ever made, and still the best out of the series. The controls are still ridiculously tight and responsive and the game just feels so polished. If this game was released now, everyone would be talking about it and playing it. Also the console exclusive characters were genius.
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Sonic Adventure is one of those games that gets praise just for not being a shit sonic game.


But like. It is a shit Sonic game. It was shit on the Dreamcast and it was shit with every re-release.

It is overrated though, that much is fully true.

Also the console exclusive characters were genius.


Except for the Xbox people stuck with Spawn. Heihachi was so fitting it's a wonder they didn't bring him back instead of fuckin Star Wars and Assassin's Creed for 4 and 5.

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But like. It is a shit Sonic game. It was shit on the Dreamcast and it was shit with every re-release.

It is overrated though, that much is fully true.

Except for the Xbox people stuck with Spawn. Heihachi was so fitting it's a wonder they didn't bring him back instead of fuckin Star Wars and Assassin's Creed for 4 and 5.


I mean all sonic games are kinda shit, even the original 3 are barely functioning platformers, pretty but clunky as shit. But within the realm of general sonic shittyness its one of the better 3D sonic games, Sonic and Shadow levels are decent, Chao garden is a blast and the soundtrack holds up. I dont know another playable 3D sonic game unless you want to count generations. Because that first sonic adventure was definitely worse, I dont see why anyone defends that glitchy trashfire.

Spawn is a bombastic over the top character like necrid, nice and cheap attacks for newbies. Hehachi 'fits' well because hes a namco fighter in a namco fighting game, its pretty difficult to fuck that up.
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Underrated: Mass Effect Andromeda & Dragon Age Inquisition

Overrated: World of Warcraft or any MMO
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Not to be 'that person' but didn't Inquisiton score fairly highly across multiple metrics?
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Not to be 'that person' but didn't Inquisiton score fairly highly across multiple metrics?


Some games are praised by critics but hated by fanbases

See Fallout 4, DmC, Pokemon Sun/Moon
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Some games are praised by critics but hated by fanbases

See Fallout 4, DmC, Pokemon Sun/Moon


Inquisition isn't exactly one of those games though considering the fanbase was already shattered with Dragon Age 2. I'm just wondering what makes Inquisition underrated since by all accounts it was anything but. Yeah there were people that didn't like it but BioWare fans are some of the most glasses-pushing-up overly critical never happy people in the medium.

Since when did the Pokemon base hate Sun and Moon? By all accounts it seemed more positive than X/Y were at any rate.

Also Fallout 4 and DmC are trash games for trash people and Bethesda needs to stop getting free passes for releasing broken shitty messes that make no sense and piss over everything in established lore. Also what fucking idiots at Ninja Theory make an action game with fucking color coded weapon mechanics and shitty flow stop trying to make action games cinematic you fucks that's why Hellblade is a boring fucking game to play.
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Inquisition isn't exactly one of those games though considering the fanbase was already shattered with Dragon Age 2. I'm just wondering what makes Inquisition underrated since by all accounts it was anything but. Yeah there were people that didn't like it but BioWare fans are some of the most glasses-pushing-up overly critical never happy people in the medium.

Since when did the Pokemon base hate Sun and Moon? By all accounts it seemed more positive than X/Y were at any rate.

Also Fallout 4 and DmC are trash games for trash people and Bethesda needs to stop getting free passes for releasing broken shitty messes that make no sense and piss over everything in established lore. Also what fucking idiots at Ninja Theory make an action game with fucking color coded weapon mechanics and shitty flow stop trying to make action games cinematic you fucks that's why Hellblade is a boring fucking game to play.


Pokemon Sun and Moon are slow as hell, hyper linear even for a pokemon game, restricted fishing, minimal post game content, cut scene every two fucking seconds, No Gyms, No Special Training, cumbersome link menu/festival/bullshit and map that somehow had even MORE water than Hoenn. Yes the pokemon community have huge problems with sun and moon, and the fact that they also had problems with X/Y doesn't change that.

Much like with DA2 and DAI and Mass Effect 3 and Mass Effect Andromeda its very possible for a fanbase to be disappointed twice in a row.

And I'm not the hugest fan of either F4 or DmC but they got good reviews so my original point still stands.
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Bethesda needs to stop getting free passes for releasing broken shitty messes that make no sense and piss over everything in established lore..


BioWare fans are some of the most glasses-pushing-up overly critical never happy people in the medium.


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I'm not sure what Drew Scanlon has to do with Bethesda making shit games but okay.

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Pokemon Sun and Moon are slow as hell, hyper linear even for a pokemon game, restricted fishing, minimal post game content, cut scene every two fucking seconds, No Gyms, No Special Training, cumbersome link menu/festival/bullshit and map that somehow had even MORE water than Hoenn. Yes the pokemon community have huge problems with sun and moon, and the fact that they also had problems with X/Y doesn't change that.


This is sounding more like your issues with the game rather than the community as a whole. No Gyms was a good thing though. Making Pokemon at least try to offer something new in terms of structure instead of doubling down on the same shit and making a boring game like X/Y was the best thing Sun and Moon did.

Much like with DA2 and DAI and Mass Effect 3 and Mass Effect Andromeda its very possible for a fanbase to be disappointed twice in a row.


Dragon Age 2 is an underrated game. And Inquisition was largely positive within the community when the game came out - partially because it wasn't Dragon Age 2 again and then the BioWare thing happened where six months passed and people started going "Man, Dragon Age 2 wasn't that bad" and more of Inquisition's flaws started being dragged through the mud.

And I'm not the hugest fan of either F4 or DmC but they got good reviews so my original point still stands.
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Would you say that anyone would say Fallout 4 or DmC were under-rated? I could maybe see someone who only saw the negative response to DmC from the internet and think that it's underrated because they liked it, but Fallout 4 was one of the biggest games of its year and outside of the (factually correct) people that were talking about how shit it is the reception was insanely positive in pretty much every community. Hell, there were literal actual shills upset that an actual game reviewer had the audacity to give the PC version of the game 4 stars out of five.

By what metric are games considered under-rated? Community response? Critical? Sales? Or just personal opinion. Because when something is getting solid 9s and 10s and a multitude of Game of the Year awards across publications it's hard to see when the under-rated aspect comes into play.

A game can review well and be under-rated. Ori and the Blind Forest is an example of that, Titanfall 2 as well, as is Hitman from last year though that one can be chalked up to its release method.

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This is sounding more like your issues with the game rather than the community as a whole.


I mean they sound like my issues because they are my issues, but just like your complaints about various games, I'm not the only one who holds these views.

I REALLY dont want to bring subjectivity here, but if a game has a large disconnect between critics and fanbase then there is a case for the game being both overrated and underrated depending on who you talk to.

Fallout 4 is a good game, its an open world FPS action game with some lighter RPG elements, but considering how different it is to past installments, you can see why some of the fanbase don't like it. I personally wouldn't have given it a 10/10 but trying to find a positive conversation about the game on the interwebs is like trying to find a good episode of the walking dead. I can see how someone might sit through a snobby 2 hour long 'critique' video of Fallout 4 that absolutely shits down its throat, only to play the game and have quite a lot of fun.

I dont personally think sales are relevant, people who buy games like Madden, Fifa, COD probably know their games aren't very good but that's just what they like passing the time with.

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trying to find a positive conversation about the game on the interwebs is like trying to find a good episode of the walking dead.


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That song is about finding a good man which is a whole other issue.

By saying that the first episode of The Walking Dead is a good episode (because it is, because it was done by a director that had a vision for the show before the network fired him) it's saying that it's not that hard to find positive discussion about the game. Even some of its more vocal critics can say positive things about it because despite it being broken and bad and boring and stupid and it literally making no sense at all from a lore and story telling perspective if you just blatantly ignore all of that you can probably find something that is enjoyable. The shooting isn't terrible and some people might even like the more buildy aspects of the settlement stuff. But as a sequel to 3 (which is still not great but betterthan 4) it's like it's set in a different series.

Bethesda games have a tendency to pull the wool over eyes with the promise of possibility to the point where about thirty hours in the fact that the 'main quest' hasn't been thought about since the opening hour is seen as a credit to the game and a statement of 'you can do anything!' when in fact you've been doing the same small selection of tasks with only slight differences in goal. They can make a world that can be fun to explore on its own, it's when they add the 'stuff to do' and 'story and character' part where they trip and fall, but by that point the audience is willing to applaud them for trying anyway.

I dont personally think sales are relevant, people who buy games like Madden, Fifa, COD probably know their games aren't very good but that's just what they like passing the time with.


It's probably why Madden and FIFA are trying to be like NBA 2K now with fuckin story modes because that worked out well with Spike Lee didn't it 2K.

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It's probably why Madden and FIFA are trying to be like NBA 2K now with fuckin story modes because that worked out well with Spike Lee didn't it 2K.

Not the first time a story mode was put in a sports game and worked. Shame that the Spike Lee direction was bad and short-sighted with bad integration with gameplay. People liked 2k17's story mode a lot more, and nobody ever has an issue with when Fight Night did it like ten years ago. Story within the framework of a sports game is not bad; depth is not bad. It's all in the execution and integration.
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