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Imma have to drop out of this 1. Good luck with your RP.
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Coming in with a Pridanian "Warden." Since Pridania is the place the High Queen was sent off to do study things, I figured Pridania would be, therefore, a beacon of academic and scholarly pursuits. And, thus, a likely place for magical innovation, discovery, study, and archives.


I'm looking forward to it.

Imma have to drop out of this 1. Good luck with your RP.


Thanks. No hard feelings.
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Yeha I can see that as an issue, the only thing is that what kingdom sends anyone but a merchant, warrior, or mage. Those are the things that a Queen will need.
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Yeha I can see that as an issue, the only thing is that what kingdom sends anyone but a merchant, warrior, or mage. Those are the things that a Queen will need.


A Queen also needs political advisors, economic advisors, people who have actually lived with the common folk of her realm, and not just stole every single gold coin they make.
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So with magic you said normaly they do hand movments and mutter unknown words. Would you be okay with the tribals useing like songs or poems with dance to cast spells. Maybe even have it so multiple priests can aid another priest in casting a spell, can see a big fire with many of his people danceing around and singing while one casts a spell.

Also was woundering if you would be okay with kamahl bringing about 25 of his people with him, about 10 priest and 15 Hunters so they can better learn the culture and expand the horizons of the Clan within the kingdom. Could also have it be that the hunters are also there to learn farming and to teach the Crown Land farmers how to grow the rare plants vegetables and fruits that come from their land. The priests are there to learn about the people and the different mechanics that comes with their economy they are not there to convert others. Maybe have the crown lands prepared for this and for the duration created a semi-permanent living area just outside the outer walls of the city, set up kind of like wooden walls and a few wooden buildings but mostly room for their tents they can have their own guards so no one stole their stuff. I'm sure the last thing the kingdom would want is a bunch of pissed-off Barbarians breaking down doors searching for their stuff LOL.
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@Major Sharpe
So with magic you said normaly they do hand movments and mutter unknown words. Would you be okay with the tribals useing like songs or poems with dance to cast spells. Maybe even have it so multiple priests can aid another priest in casting a spell, can see a big fire with many of his people danceing around and singing while one casts a spell.

Also was woundering if you would be okay with kamahl bringing about 25 of his people with him, about 10 priest and 15 Hunters so they can better learn the culture and expand the horizons of the Clan within the kingdom. Could also have it be that the hunters are also there to learn farming and to teach the Crown Land farmers how to grow the rare plants vegetables and fruits that come from their land. The priests are there to learn about the people and the different mechanics that comes with their economy they are not there to convert others. Maybe have the crown lands prepared for this and for the duration created a semi-permanent living area just outside the outer walls of the city, set up kind of like wooden walls and a few wooden buildings but mostly room for their tents they can have their own guards so no one stole their stuff. I'm sure the last thing the kingdom would want is a bunch of pissed-off Barbarians breaking down doors searching for their stuff LOL.


The only real barbarians are kept well in check by Vrenal. And if it becomes an issue, we know what to do.

Also, he brings up a good point, how large can our characters retinue be?
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Yeah the merchants are the economic advisors, and most of the characters have some sort of political background, merchant, warrior and mages can all be politicians as well. A Queen wouldn't want to just have random commoners in her court they know next to nothing about the larger world around them, often times the merchants and craftsmen were chosen in their position because they were the closest.

Also, ouch, Milo stole exactly 0 coins to this day, very honest craftsman he is. lol
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Yeah the merchants are the economic advisors, and most of the characters have some sort of political background, merchant, warrior and mages can all be politicians as well. A Queen wouldn't want to just have random commoners in her court they know next to nothing about the larger world around them, often times the merchants and craftsmen were chosen in their position because they were the closest.

Also, ouch, Milo stole exactly 0 coins to this day, very honest craftsman he is. lol


I don't think you got what I was trying to say, but it is close enough. Just trying to give you a bit of help mate.
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I don't think you got what I was trying to say, but alright.


I don't mean to misunderstand, it seemed you were saying that there were more positions needed than specifically merchant, warrior, and mage, I replied with those are background archetypes that would fill the queens advisory positions properly and that a true commoner in court has been a historic no-no, also that Milo's background is a craftsman and merchant, not thief.
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<Snipped quote by ArisenMoon>

I don't mean to misunderstand, it seemed you were saying that there were more positions needed than specifically merchant, warrior, and mage, I replied with those are background archetypes that would fill the queens advisory positions properly and that a true commoner in court has been a historic no-no, also that Milo's background is a craftsman and merchant, not thief.


I never said your character was a thief. And I am not saying they just choose some random kid off the street and decide "Hey want to advise the Queen?".
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To be fair, your post confused me. Still not sure what you meant.
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To be fair, your post confused me. Still not sure what you meant.


I will just shut up then. My apologies to all.
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I will just shut up then. My apologies to all.


I'm not trying to make you feel bad, just thought we were having a discussion on the advisory roles needed by medieval regents, as is the topic of the game, just making conversation.
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@ArisenMoon
Aye, no offense was meant, I'm just plainly stating that it confused me, whatever point you were trying to make. Try working on your paragraph structure and the like. The first sentence in a paragraph is your topic sentence- use it to essentially give a summary of the rest of the paragraph, for any time you're trying to make any sort of point.

For example, this is a topic sentence, the single point I want to make with this paragraph. The rest of the paragraph, including this sentence, is all supposed to be in support of the topic sentence. Making sure you have a clear topic sentence is key.

I didn't really identify a topic sentence that was clear and concise anywhere, nor did the general context of the post really support one way or the other- I felt like it was a little muddled, because there was no beginning that led the rest of the reasoning you were writing.
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And now after that English lesson...I feel humbled and stupid. My apologies again for my ineptitude in the English language. Will strive for a much clearer voicing of my thoughts.
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So with magic you said normaly they do hand movments and mutter unknown words. Would you be okay with the tribals useing like songs or poems with dance to cast spells. Maybe even have it so multiple priests can aid another priest in casting a spell, can see a big fire with many of his people danceing around and singing while one casts a spell.

Also was woundering if you would be okay with kamahl bringing about 25 of his people with him, about 10 priest and 15 Hunters so they can better learn the culture and expand the horizons of the Clan within the kingdom... [-Snip-] Maybe have the crown lands prepared for this and for the duration created a semi-permanent living area just outside the outer walls of the city, set up kind of like wooden walls and a few wooden buildings but mostly room for their tents they can have their own guards so no one stole their stuff. I'm sure the last thing the kingdom would want is a bunch of pissed-off Barbarians breaking down doors searching for their stuff LOL.


Yeah, I think song and dance could very well be a method for spell-weaving. Kind of like DnD bards.

As to retinue sizes generally, I'm not going to lay down any specific cut-off but try to keep it reasonable. To your 25 specifically, I think that's perfectly acceptable. And quartering them outside the city walls in their own little hamlet is an excellent idea, since that's exactly where the civil government would want to keep them. I'm sure they'll find 'Kam Town' perfectly to their liking. Some of the bolder townsmen might even visit to trade.

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I like it, but there is a small issue. The CS should have as many weaknesses as strengths listed. I counted three advantages under your 'skills and abilities' column, but no corresponding shortcomings. If you throw some weaknesses in there, you're in.

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Good weaknesses. Accepted!
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Hi guys! Sorry, some personal stuff came up and I haven't had time to finish my character yet. I promise sometime by tomorrow I should be able to get this cranked out!
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I'll be working on a Character Sheet over the next day or so, provided my work schedule gets less hectic (which it should). I'm still working with a general idea, but if you'll still allow it Major I think I rather like the idea of my character slipping into Sir Martin's shoes (and if not, no worries, I've got some other thoughts I'm happy to run with). I hope you'll look forward to it.
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