@Odin True, but at work we have an asian tradie who comes in and spends about a thousand per visit on jobs he's working for. I remember him cause he's an older guy who's bald but has a rat-tail at the back of his head (seriously awlful haircut), and cannot speak a lick of english.

Thousand per week, 52 weeks a year... it can add up in the perfect storm.

Regardless of what Kitty has said, my views on the topic of a national language align with Theodore Roosevelt:

“In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person’s becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American … There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag … We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language … and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”

Considering this podcast is online, I think you clearly can get the discourse you are talking about.

If you are talking about dicourse that specifically invloves you, then you have a short memory. Ive seen you disucuss topics in a civil manner, it doesnt happen often, but you are capable of it.

Also when you say 'online' thats a very broad net, because if you are only attempting debate on an RPG forum and discord where you have bad blood with the people you keep trying to engage, then your problem is quite obvious.

I can...through secondary/outside means.

Kind of my entire point, yes. And that's unbelievably rich. But it's clear literally everyone is ignoring what got this closed the last time.

That people can't learn to not hold grudges, and speak like human beings and follow the rules? Not a personal statement mind. I don't directly engage most people who make problems with me. I've always spoke broadly and generally, and those people throw themselves upon me. (I rest my case.)

And, it's "broad" because that's on purpose. In my real life, no one really even follows politics enough to have a worthwhile discussion about it. This forum ain't the only online barren wasteland of political dialogue.

There's literally an argument, happening with a moderator present. So I guess it makes it okay. About scorning someone for not being helpful in their workplace. What does that have to do with politics? Do you -have- to like/know me, for my point to be anymore legitimate?

What makes this online thing more secondary or outside to another online thing, is it not all just online? Where are you drawing the distinction?

Well it's a bit of stupid point.

Also you know that a thread isnt one all encompassing argument. Its a series of many different debates and topics. And yes you did engage in debates that were civil on there. So my point stands.

People can do those things. You are literally ignoring all the discourse that has happened in all the threads that has happened in a civil manner, you're only focusing on the big arguments.

You say you are speaking generally but you engage with things you disagree with just like everyone else does. Your approach doesn't really differ to most of the approaches on here to begin with, but you seem to like to talk down about these threads while repeatedly enaging with them. You would think you would just stay away but you can't help yourself.

The argument seems to be more about the politics of the legitimacy of a national language, it also seems like the people 'arguing' are actually friendly with each other and aren't taking anything too personally, who are you to decide how people should react to civil discourse? If they feel it's getting out of hand they can say something.

Coming from someone who doesn't seem to understand the point I made in the first place.

It was/is right now, hence why I'm commenting on it.

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That'd be the tropical infection talking.

Regardless of what Kitty has said, my views on the topic of a national language align with Theodore Roosevelt:

“In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person’s becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American … There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag … We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language … and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”

Agree to disagree on both counts, have a good day.

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spoken like a true American

Agree to disagree on both counts, have a good day.

spoken like a true american

country build on the backs of poor foreigners that speak barely any english

spoken like a true American