I'm probably just going to app a new character, if at all. Honestly a lot of my hype for 5e has dampened down by a lot, so we shall see.

@Cu Chulainn Yeah, I won't lie I'd rather start a new campaign. Or just have you guys make your way to Phandelver to collect your pay and go from there.

I also have a keen interest in trying to GM Starfinder someday, or Pathfinder OG (not 2e).

@Dark Cloud You know I get notified when there's a post in this thread, right?

@Necroes I didn't think you were around, last time I checked. Sorry.

@Necroes Would you still be interested?

@Dark Cloud I'd be interested. Might make a new character, but I actually really liked my tortle boy, so not sure.

I'll think about it, but I hope your GM style has significantly improved. Should we do a session zero this time?

@TGM Likely yes a session 0. Would you tell me what I was lacking in last time? Might be a good thing to hear.

I aired my issues last time, so I don't think there's a use to repeat it.

@TGM Oh yeah just read it again, no worries.

@Dark Cloud Might I recommend not starting us at level 1? Most classes really gain momentum around level 3, and working up to that from level 1 just feels like a slog.

Hrm yeah I could do that.

@Dark Cloud Might I recommend not starting us at level 1? Most classes really gain momentum around level 3, and working up to that from level 1 just feels like a slog.

I'd prefer starting at level 1. Feels like a proper journey, that said for the story of Phandelver 2-4 does make sense given character backstories of being relatively capable adventurers guarding a caravan and all.

@TGM That, actually makes a lot of sense.

We should also consider Phandelver was designed, as a module, for level 1. I suggest re-reading the module/path itself again, and see if you want to make changes to it to make it more interesting or not.

@TGM Well if I was going to upscale I would start you guys as already in or near Phandalin, prolly using the later portion where you guys are in town and basically have a wealth of options as to what you can do.

EDIT: Doy not Phandelver that's the dungeons name.

It actually makes a bit of sense, I could even somehow tie-in the first part but upscaled to the required level. Hmmm interesting.

@TGM Agree to disagree. Level 1 in 5e isn't balanced well enough, mechanically. Doesn't really feel like starting an adventure to me, just feels like the characters are nerfed. Even WotC feels that way, otherwise most of their adventures wouldn't start with a section specifically designed to get the party to level 3 that's only loosely connected to the real plot.

My rant aside, I'd be just as happy starting at level 2. Apart from just giving us more hit points to work with, level 2 doesn't really offer anything that would give a party a significant advantage over a level 1 group. Casters haven't unlocked second level spells, most classes haven't unlocked their sub-class features, and what powerful abilities players do unlock at this level for offense are heavily limited in the number of times they can be used per day. If anything, starting at this level just speeds up play, because it encourages players to take short rests over long rests to regain abilities and hit points.

@Necroes As someone who hates waiting to get my sweet sweet eldritch invocations, can't agrue with you there.

If we are doing Phandelver I'd prefer it to start where its supposed to start.