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@Lucius Cypher I gotta say though if I'd been at full hp Zagren probably would have dropped Domic in two hits if he rolled well.
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@Dark Cloud it'll be a tossup considering Domic is also a barb, so if he can get his rage off he's just as durable. Plus Domic has better AC. Zagren would need to win initiative, crit, and roll very well for damage to win by turn two. And considering they're both barbarians, reckless attack is going to be a given. So Domic's 17 AC vs Zagren's +6 attack means Zagren has about a 45% chance to actually hurt Domic, compared to Domic's +5 attack vs Zagren's 14 AC, which gives Domic 55% chance to hit.

Ultimately it boils down to who wins init. Zagren's acid breath will get through rage resistance but Domic's danger sense gives him advantage in the Dex save and +2 Dex is decent, especially with advantage backing it up.
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@Lucius Cypher 15% is a big percent in Domics favor, on a side note I always believed halflings were the best race for barbarian.
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Halflings (especially Stouts) have an edge, due to high dex so with point buy you can manage to start with 18 AC with hopefully 16 Dex and Con and a shield at lvl 1
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Halflings (especially Stouts) have an edge, due to high dex so with point buy you can manage to start with 18 AC with hopefully 16 Dex and Con and a shield at lvl 1


Reminder that Domic is a gnome.
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@Lurking Krog I know that, I'm just going on a tangent.
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@Birdboy Ballsy btw, I mean Dullin could just fuck him up with magic if he got mad at her but I applaud
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All in all this is not how I imagined the fight was supposed to conclude. I thought he and Foxfire would get a drink but now everyone hates Zagren. :(
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Foxfire doesn't hate him, she's just processing the fact that someone wants to be her friend after that fight. ^^"
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Foxfire doesn't hate him, she's just processing the fact that someone wants to be her friend after that fight. ^^"


Ah I thought from your posts she was being indifferent, well I guess Domic hates him and everyone else just finds him unpleasant.
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@Dark Cloud What has Zagren done to make anyone like him?
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Dullin isn't exactly a fan of anyone. Kyra and Kythor seem pleasent enough but otherwise everyone else is too gruff for her liking.
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@Lucius Cypher Not much at all, ngl.
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@Dark Cloud Probably why. This is going to be a contravention opinion I think, because everyone wants to play what they want. But in my experience? Characters who can't get along with the rest of the party or cause drama because "it's what their character would do" not only won't last very long, but typically the party itself won't. This isn't a school project where the teachers put students together and everyone has to just tolerate each other. Everyone is an adult, and that means they do have the choice of whether or not they want to work with people who may or may not be a liability. And if too many people are willing to tolerate someone who's obviously just going to bring trouble? that's how you get people to just abandon the group, until eventually it's just the problem child, and those who don't have the spine to stand up against them.
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@Lucius Cypher No bruv I get that. No worries, nothing ever happens the way one might expect things to go. I'm not really all that chuffed, it just means that I'm gonna have an interesting time roleplaying this out.
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@Dark Cloud Aight. Just saying I've seen this happen a lot before in other groups. Someone gets the bright idea to act a bit brash, and the impact of their actions affect more people than they think. Usually what happens next is the offender claims that they had permission to do whatever it was that was causing a problem, which basically means anyone who are bothered can basically get fucked. This leaves a bad taste when it feels like a DM basically allows someone to be an ass and get away with it. Grudges are formed. Or people just leave.

I've seen it happen at least seven times. Four times in RPGuild itself. I try to learn from those experiences and nip that bud real quick.

Incidentally examples like I just said also tends to happen historically, with knights and such. They get permission from their lords to do something existentially "okay", like dealing with bandits. In the process the knights start shaking down the peasants and merchants, taking stuff, and generally being hostile to everyone they think might have something to do with banditry. Now the peasants don't like them, but when they try to appeal to their local lord they basically get told the knights are allowed to do that. This creates hostilities. That's more or less where Domic is coming from.
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@Lucius Cypher Well I guess one of the things about playing a dragonborn come with as everything about their lives is dictated by 'honor', also I know about these instances of which you speak of at least one that is. And if it comes down to Zag being too well the way he is I'd be more comfortable for the groups sake to make a new character.
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@Dark Cloud If nothing else, maybe incidents like this can give Zag a chance at character development. His "honor" is not the same as everyone else's. He's not among dragonborn, he's among humans, elves, gnomes, and shifters. He'll need to learn how to conduct himself among these unfamiliar people. Morality is not so black and white that everyone follows the same set of good and evil, even in a world where there are gods who try to categorize such things.
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