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@Lugubrious Flonne is done.


CS seems good to me!
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@Lugubrious Just finished up my CS! Hope it's better or just as good as last time.
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@Lugubrious Just finished up my CS! Hope it's better or just as good as last time.


Overall the sheet seems good, and acceptable in its current state. However, I feel like the personality section makes him seem a bit more cruel and one-dimensional than in MGR. Although he's suffering from PTSD and indeed has the persona of a bloodthirsty killer buried within, he's also committed to protecting the weak at all costs as a result of his past as a child soldier in Liberia. He's also something of a dork at times, such as with his 'disguise', being a bit of a weeb about samurai, and his fanboyism of Snake, and despite his troubles he's ultimately a good guy trying to do what he thinks is right, even if that demands sacrifice. Unless you're reinterpreting the character as more strictly edgy?
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Oh that reminds me I forgot that Flonne's a wee bit of an Otaku lol
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Overall the sheet seems good, and acceptable in its current state. However, I feel like the personality section makes him seem a bit more cruel and one-dimensional than in MGR. Although he's suffering from PTSD and indeed has the persona of a bloodthirsty killer buried within, he's also committed to protecting the weak at all costs as a result of his past as a child soldier in Liberia. He's also something of a dork at times, such as with his 'disguise', being a bit of a weeb about samurai, and his fanboyism of Snake, and despite his troubles he's ultimately a good guy trying to do what he thinks is right, even if that demands sacrifice. Unless you're reinterpreting the character as more strictly edgy?


Oh, no you're totally right, I mostly based him off of his background than how he is presented in the actual game itself. I'll add a paragraph or two extra to fix that. I love how I totally 360'd his personality in the background section compared to what I wrote in the personality. Thanks for bringing that up mate, actually annoyed I didn't notice that myself.
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In that case you're good to go. Once you put the character in the CS tab we can talk his outset in the PM.
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@Lugubrious Also getting Flonne over to the CS section. Can she start on the mountain?
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@Lugubrious Also getting Flonne over to the CS section. Can she start on the mountain?


That depends. Why would she be on the mountain, in such a hostile and unforgiving place, where no amount of love will overcome the callousness of wind, cold, and stone?
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Just finished up my edits. Toned down the edge a lot. That's what I get for watching "What happened after Metal Gear Rising" Youtube videos to get an idea of what to write.
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That depends. Why would she be on the mountain, in such a hostile and unforgiving place, where no amount of love will overcome the callousness of wind, cold, and stone?


Because even the coldest of places hide somewhere warm, even the hardest of hearts hides gold. Because people in such a place would need someone to show them warmth.
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Also prolly cause Master Hand might have put her there as a cruel joke.
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What Master Hand does and doesn't do is governed by strict plans and rules. It is not the type for meaningless pranks. If anyone was just stuck on the mountain alone in the elements without gear or preparation the cold would almost certainly claim them. There are a lot more people that could use her love in Al Mamoon, or even Lumbridge, for instance.

However, there was one possibility I left open. The building that Midna spotted: the Convent of Our Lady of the Charred Visage. It's essentially an abbey whose sisters worship a woman whose face was used as a likeness for divinity, but who burned her face with boiling oil as an act of piety to distance herself from such comparisons. Those who reside there, half-frozen by the cold and half-burned by the scorching lava that flows within, are extremely hostile, but since Flonne is an angel it's possible that they see her as a divine benefactor come to ease their pain. She may have come this way after hearing about it while in Tostarena or Al Mamoon, wanting to provide what comfort she could to a place suffused by suffering.
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What Master Hand does and doesn't do is governed by strict plans and rules. It is not the type for meaningless pranks. If anyone was just stuck on the mountain alone in the elements without gear or preparation the cold would almost certainly claim them. There are a lot more people that could use her love in Al Mamoon, or even Lumbridge, for instance.

However, there was one possibility I left open. The building that Midna spotted: the Convent of Our Lady of the Charred Visage. It's essentially an abbey whose sisters worship a woman whose face was used as a likeness for divinity, but who burned her face with boiling oil as an act of piety to distance herself from such comparisons. Those who reside there, half-frozen by the cold and half-burned by the scorching lava that flows within, are extremely hostile, but since Flonne is an angel it's possible that they see her as a divine benefactor come to ease their pain. She may have come this way after hearing about it while in Tostarena or Al Mamoon, wanting to provide what comfort she could to a place suffused by suffering.


The second suggestion is actually one I can get behind. That definitely sounds like somewhere she would try to go.
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In that case, she would just need some sort of reason as to why she would be able to suddenly leave the Convent to go on a long and perilous journey up the mountain. Or at least to where Laharl is, since that's what I assume you want. Contrivances being what they are, maybe she's taking a break from tending to the sisters' horrific burns and wounds through one of the Convent's deambulatories and sees Laharl throwing some kind of showy tantrum from far away with his powers, due to his anger and helplessness at the stubborn Seekers?
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In that case, she would just need some sort of reason as to why she would be able to suddenly leave the Convent to go on a long and perilous journey up the mountain. Or at least to where Laharl is, since that's what I assume you want. Contrivances being what they are, maybe she's taking a break from tending to the sisters' horrific burns and wounds through one of the Convent's deambulatories and sees Laharl throwing some kind of showy tantrum from far away with his powers, due to his anger and helplessness at the stubborn Seekers?


Yes, I believe that is plausible, yes. I think that sounds very in-character for the idea I had of them meeting.
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I don't feel like the sisters would particularly enjoy Flonne's presence once they realized that she's not on board with the whole "suffering as virtue" thing they've got going on in Cvstodia. It's probably very confusing for them, faith wise.
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I don't feel like the sisters would particularly enjoy Flonne's presence once they realized that she's not on board with the whole "suffering as virtue" thing they've got going on in Cvstodia. It's probably very confusing for them, faith wise.


She probably initially believes helping them will get the sisters to possibly change their ways but after awhile now she is beginning to see their own faith is too different from her own. At least she'll try to convert some to her side but she is starting to feel her love is needed elsewhere specifically to the Seekers and her obstinate acquaintance Laharl.
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Suffering isn't something Flonne is all for even if her higher power told her it was. Her very power as an angel is tied closely to her conviction to love above all else which is the power her soul emulates.
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I don't feel like the sisters would particularly enjoy Flonne's presence once they realized that she's not on board with the whole "suffering as virtue" thing they've got going on in Cvstodia. It's probably very confusing for them, faith wise.


That's a good point, unless in their zeal they're able to justify healing as allowing them to suffer even more.

Maybe that would lead to Flonne being a fugitive in the place, trapped with nowhere else to go and constantly hiding out from the Sisters who seek to hunt her down and burn her.
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That's a good point, unless in their zeal they're able to justify healing as allowing them to suffer even more.

Maybe that would lead to Flonne being a fugitive in the place, trapped with nowhere else to go and constantly hiding out from the Sisters who seek to hunt her down and burn her.


Alright, then catching a glimpse from a deambulatory of the group she seizes the first opportunity to flee in a desperate attempt to get to the group? Or what else?
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