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Not sure if i'd call being immune to a narrow subset of specifically mental debuffs shrugging off debuffs, but if it's not a good match for what you have planned, that's fine. Come to think of it, they really aren't a good match for this kind of game anyway, I was just excited about getting a chance to play them since it's been a while since I've seen a Fate rp come up here. I'll go for something else.
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Alright if that's what you want to do go for it and switch characters i'll hold off on saying anything more about the character until you decide if you want them or not since i seem to be misunderstanding the character concept myself.
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Would someone like Siegfried be fine for this?
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@Cu Chulainn No. Mostly on the basis of armor of fafnir. It nulls anything below B-Rank. I'm putting in enemy heroes like Spring Heeled Jack, and Mori Nagayoshi (who on the topic doesn't have a phantasm strong enough to apparently pierce it despite being defense nulling since its C). Once again i'd be in a situation where i'd have to throw in a top tier servant like say Lancelot in these distortions just to give Siegfried a fair challenge outside the boss enemies.
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Fair. I think I might go for Arash then, if applicable.
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Arash is fair he's a strong servant the only question is what you intend to do with his phantasm as he literally kills himself with it. It would require a resummoning and you'd be locked into standard archer combat without it.
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I'm fine with that. After all, Arash's kit seems fairly formidable for what it is, even outside of using Stella. He possesesed the fortitude and foresight to know when to use his Noble Phantasm, and I think it'd be a cool plot point in the event I know I absolutely have to use it.

In any case, I also planned to make a Master, so it's also allow me to focus more on that character as well. Just curiois though, but do you want a comprehensive spell list, or just a list of commonly used/biggest spells our Master would know?
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I want to know what the mage can cast in an important situation. Minor spells can be left out like say 'I can fix glass, or clean dirt quickly' can be left out.
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Nice! So, do you lead me in or do I just go ahead and write myself in?

Also, do we have our Servants now or do we get them a bit later into the story?
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@Rezod92 You can write yourself in doing whatever but we're to report to the director soon and your character would know that. Servants have yet to be summoned as Team A has summoned theirs as per (canon chaldea's prior to book 1) rules there's only a certain amount of servants allowed at once unless necessary. You be in the mess hall, training rooms, whatever. Or talk to Leon.
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Cool! I'll get into it when I get off work. Though....

You do know Chaldea is located in Antarctica, right?
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Yes I'm aware relocated it in this game different timeline nonsense. Doesn't really matter all too much in the grand scheme of things though.
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How's this one look?

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The character seems fine but you should know I don't allow attacks that can instantly kill targets which is the main reason Cu Chulainn is unavailable without some sort of nerf. I'll allow more grievous wounds once the phantasm is used but I obviously can't allow people to just murder an individual outright.
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Well it would be a little strange if an Assassin can't kill people. Even then, there are plenty of heroic spirits that can handle a little flaying. What exactly do you consider makes something an 'instant kill attack'? Like, you've allowed big nuke Noble Phantasms, and it seems like getting directly hit by them would be an instant kill too.
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Any attack that can instantly kill the person in a singular hit that is either definitive, or outright cause a character to die, or be permanently incapped. There's always a shot to dodge Fran's phantasm if you're able to somehow teleport or whatever, or if you can move quick enough and you see Mordred's attack coming you can dodge that. They're big brutal hits but they don't instantaneously declare the individual dead the second they're called.

In DnD terms its would be like banning power word kill.

dndbeyond.com/spells/power-word-kill
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Well this is also an attack that can be dodged or survived independently of that, so I don't really get the distinction. It's not like Gae Bolg where it reverses causality to always hit, it's just an attack. Even assassin-y sneak attacks can be dodged.
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Then that should be included in the wording of the phantasm. 'If it lands correctly' is the words listed in the phantasm. If the effect of instant death can be resisted, and or dodged in some sort of manner so be i'll consider accepting it if no one else has an issue with it. Likewise however there are other assassins who don't use instantaneous death techniques such as Okada Izo's settlement sword, Sanson's doesn't guarantee death as one can pass a check to do so, Cleopatra's Uraeus Astrape (though her high skills make her character formidable in its own right.) and and Jekyll's ability to turn into hide. Not all assassins rely on an instant death technique.

More so your characters stats are all very high that alone should render the technique not in need of pure instant murder.

in comparison with Emiya Assassin, a counter guardian, for example



or Danzou


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I didn't think I needed to specify that an attack can be dodged, but I suppose I can list that. I can also put a check on it if you want, since most instead death stuff in fate does have that, like Gae Bolg or Mort Espoir. I just didn't think it was necessary since removing skin is both something that can be done by degrees, and has a few canon examples of people who would literally just survive and then immediately retaliate.

As for her Parameters, it's because she's an Oni. I can tone them down a little but the physicals probably shouldn't be any lower than C.
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Since we're in the questions phase, I'm curious if I'm able to do an idea I gave been kicking around, of a Demi-Servant infused the Saint Graph of Hassan of the Cursed Arm, and a severely downgraded version of Zabaniya that catastrophic damage to the target, but doesn't result in an instant kill, and is actively eating away at her "cursed arm" with each use.

Basically, she'd be a "proof of concept" Mash, since this isn't the same Chaldea, but would likely be following the same, general trend of using Designer Dolls over fallible Masters.

Plus, it assures that I'll never be without a Master or Servant, since I'd be both at once.

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