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@rush99999 Right, so, Take 10/20 rules don't work that way in this system.

Take 10 is "Job that you can keep rolling till success with no real penalty of failure, usually around 2-10 minutes"

Take 20 is "You can take 20x the amount of time to do a Take 10 job and ignore the penalties of failure (Being that you are being super-duper careful.) But only if nothing bad happens in the meantime. You can also Take 20 on any job that would take over a week to complete normally without the time penalty. Taking 20 is not a critical success though."

But as with all things, it's up to GM Discression:

Yes, you can take 10 on this job, it'll take about an hour to do so, being that you are going to have to go looking for places that have this info.

No, you cannot take 20 on this for reasons i wont disclose, but suffice to say that 20 hours on this planet will not come without risks.

I do need to know what kinds of questions you are asking? Is it specifically about the ships? Is it specifically about the crews? Is it specifically about the produce? You can ask broad questions to get broad answers. You can also try specific questions get more specific answers, but run the risk of word getting back to the rebels that you are onto them. I mean, "Do you know anything about these 4 ships working together with a crew member that only speaks Huttese" when asked to the people in the know is likely to make it back to the 4 ships that some shifty bloke was asking about them and they are likely to then circle the wagons.

But what you do learn from your Take 10 from the Imperial institutions (Registry offices for ships and manifests and stuff like that):



@Varshanka Very nice roll, you can keep the 16, but this is also a Gather Information roll, not Perception. Perception would be useful if you actually knew what the perps looked like. Right now, you are walking around scoping out "Shady Blokes" in a city full of Shady Blokes and basic perception isn't going to yeild too much except "Cor', there sure are a lot of shady blokes around here." Gather Information is the skill for walking around with the rank and file and giving the odd "Hey, that guy looks a little stand-out-ish, what's his story?" in a believable way.



I do want to apologize if i seem a little "I need specifics" as a DM, i just don't believe in the magical "I rolled a big number on the dice, now tell me everything!" style. I like to make the players actually use their brains, much to my players chagrin. How you ask a question is just as important as what number you roll. If you are trying to seduce an NPC and you say "I once witnessed a quasar form, colours beyond imagination and a beauty i once thought unparalleled until i looked into those stunning eyes of yours." is only going to need a DC15 to succeed as opposed to "OI DARLIN' I BET YOU LIKE TO 'AVE IT OFF!!!" Which will be a DC30.
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I do need to know what kinds of questions you are asking?


I was trying to perform the Learn News and Rumors action detailed on the Gather Information page of the wiki. So I guess Vanovar would be scanning HoloNet news broadcasts or perusing information kiosks for the latest major news stories and mingling with the locals to charm the recent popular rumors out of them.



I do want to apologize if i seem a little "I need specifics" as a DM, i just don't believe in the magical "I rolled a big number on the dice, now tell me everything!" style. I like to make the players actually use their brains, much to my players chagrin.


That is a perfectly valid way to go about things and I'm not going to fault you for it. But just as a reminder, more often than not the knowledge and skills of the Player Characters don't tend to line up all that well with the knowledge and skills of the Players.

Vanovar Pythis is a suave, strong space-wizard.

rush99999 is an introverted, unathletic nobody.

There are going to be times when the big number way of doing things will be necessary.
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Heard, and I like to write more than roll anyways.
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Nooooot really sure if I was allowed to say yes to Tav's question, but it seemed like a fairly logical answer. Let me know if it is out of my scope and I'll make the necessary edits @mattmanganon Also I would like to do a Gather Information roll but I imagine I'd have to roll since my approach is different from Vanovar's?

Also also @rush99999 I just realized you interacted in that post of yours Friday night. Sorry for not responding to you last week, I was helping my friend with her wedding all weekend ^_^"
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Sorry for not answering, been busy these last 2 days.

@rush99999 Fair enough, you don't really learn anything new from the Holonet. There's the odd insane conspiracy theory like "The Emperor kidnapped a guy who escaped jail and cloned him to make a new Sith heir." but you know to ignore that stuff. The only stuff you really learn from the holonet on the local "I'm looking to get stuff" forums that Vinca is the guy you go to for stuff that is a little outside of the norm.

@MacabreMoth 1) Yes, you CAN check the control tower, but as i said with your previous roll, you don't know the ships you are looking for. So far, you are essentially in New York looking for "4 Pick Up Trucks, one of them may have been green or blue." with no definitive makes, models or plate numbers. You won't be able to get much info from Traffic Control until you have a more definitive idea of the ships in question. If you do get some ID codes, you can also ask the tower to run them for you to see if the times line up with the attacks. I mean, if you ask them with the current information you have, they will send you a list of ships that comprises about 2/3 of he ships that went through the area at the time, which doesn't help at all.

2) Absolutely. Any time you want to make a roll, just do so and ask me the results.
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@MacabreMoth Yes, with that roll you spend your hour and absolutely ascertain from the Holonet that there are indeed horny MILFs in your area.
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Unfortunately the holonet has pinged your location as kashyyk... take that as you will.

Does that mean you like hairy women?
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Yes, you CAN check the control tower, but as i said with your previous roll, you don't know the ships you are looking for. So far, you are essentially in New York looking for "4 Pick Up Trucks, one of them may have been green or blue." with no definitive makes, models or plate numbers. You won't be able to get much info from Traffic Control until you have a more definitive idea of the ships in question. If you do get some ID codes, you can also ask the tower to run them for you to see if the times line up with the attacks. I mean, if you ask them with the current information you have, they will send you a list of ships that comprises about 2/3 of he ships that went through the area at the time, which doesn't help at all.


@mattmanganonQuestion, I'm planning for Tavitri to do just that and gonna ask for the officer (or whoever is in control) to run for recently registered ships while scanning the room. I believe there are spies within the tower. What are the appropriate rolls for this?
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@Shovel Right, that's gonna be a Perception roll.
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@mattmanganon I'm figuring a gather information check to get the list of suspected rebel sympathizers or potential rebel agents is correct.

Rolled a 12.
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@Lurking Krog with a 12, you learn that, as per Imperial doctrine, all suspected Rebel Sympathizers and potential agents have been rounded up and given a stern talking to that convinced them of the error of their ways and how the Empire has their best interests at heart.
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Perception roll. What info would I obtain from this?
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@Shovel With a 20, you realize that you are looking at thousands of ships. A large number setting courses for the local hyperspace lanes to meet up with trade fleets. Hisaki is very close to 2 different Hyperspace lanes and has become a trade hub for that very reason. But you do see that both Daro Vancil and Vinca Rumen's ships are among those in the list of ships.
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So, where is everyone on their posts? I've given you some people to go talk to. Who's gonna be the one to initiate the awkward "So i hear you're going to the Hague!" conversations?
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@Lurking Krog@Varshanka@MacabreMoth@rush99999Please feel free to use the info in your post. Don't want to double post.

Daro Vancil and Vinca Rumen's ships are among those in the list of ships.
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So, where is everyone on their posts?


Got a bit distracted by things. I'll have a post up before day's end. But first, I do have one question. Did any of the information Vanovar gathered mentioned where he would find Vinca or will he be needing to make a separate roll for that?
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@rush99999 You're the Government, as soon as you have a name, you can easily look up an address.
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<Snipped quote by mattmanganon>

Got a bit distracted by things. I'll have a post up before day's end. But first, I do have one question. Did any of the information Vanovar gathered mentioned where he would find Vinca or will he be needing to make a separate roll for that?


Seems like the dude operates out of the docks/market area. Klara's roughly around there. Down to run duos?
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Seems like the dude operates out of the docks/market area. Klara's roughly around there. Down to run duos?


Sounds good to me.
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