This is a post concerning everybody - A message written by me, but basically from both me and Kindred:

It has been brought up a few times that we should start introducing villains, or at least a villain, to sort of drive forward what our characters are doing, give them something to strive for.

I have been talking with @King Kindred since the start of the RP, about my character, about my future plans for characters, about story ideas... (And when I say 'have been talking with', I mean we have been coming up with ideas and whatnot basically since the RP started)... and we have basically together come up with what we intend to be the major, central plot going forward. Now we of course understand at this point, that we have done A LOT of brainstorming, planning, and world building, without involving anyone else in the discussion, to the point that others haven't yet had any input, let alone even told what's going on.

So that's what I'm doing here, so that everybody can hopefully take part in this, without it seeming like everybody is just being dragged into the storyline me and Kindred made with no regard to your own personal character stories you want to tell and progress.

There was also something brought up about how the plotlines of Kingdom Hearts in general tend to be way too convoluted, needlessly complicated, and even something like the villain's motives seem to change whenever the writers feel like it.

Because of that...

We have basically scrapped the main plotline of Kingdom Hearts entirely. This excludes Kingdom Hearts 1 for the most part, with a few details changed, and we're considering the current story to be in that KH1 timeframe. So, I am going to breakdown what we have planned for the storyline in each section:



Going to pause here and say, I know some might wonder 'Why Camelot'. I understand that, with my character being central to the plot, like that I already said a villain of my own making will be making appearances, and things like their world being so important to the main story, that it might seem like I am trying to take over the story, or make my character the main character.

That's simply not the case though. Me and Kindred have simply come up with a lot of ideas for a story, and we like what we've created, and, assuming everybody is on board, have decided it will be the first major storyline that deviates from the original Kingdom Hearts story. Once this story is over, anyone else is more than welcome to build their own major storyline for everybody to follow.

But keep this in mind: Just because there is a main central narrative, does not mean anyone should be dissuaded from pursuing their own character stories. I'm sure every one of you has plans for your characters, things you want to achieve with them, things you want to happen to them... the intention here isn't to say 'no you can't do that, we have a story already'. But rather, to give a central narrative from which people can build their own character stories around. Find ways to tie your characters, and the things you want to do with them, to the story we have prepared. We aren't taking over everyone's story. We are just setting the basis for what is actually happening in this world. Or... worlds.

Anyways, on to the first major deviation from the games story:



So while there is much, much more specific things we have planned, including things well beyond the Organization XIII storyline, and the ultimate goal of this whole story, that's really all there is to it for now.

Kindred has given the go ahead on all of this (At least as far as I remember...) and much of it has been his own input as well. However, naturally, this is everybody's RP. We aren't exactly dictating to you all 'This is the story you are going to write, don't like it, then drop out'. We are open to suggestions, criticisms, and answering questions about it all.

I'm sure we both understand that it's a bit overdue on letting everyone in on our plans, but this has been something that has been being worked on, evolving and changing over months, with new ideas constantly coming in, and entire ideas being redone, to come up with what we think is the final version of the story we want to tell.

And all in all, we hope that everybody has a part to play in it that they will enjoy, while also being free enough to tell the stories about their own characters that they have intended to tell this whole time.

There are some details that need working out... and we'll try and work with anyone who already has plans for something that will need to somehow work around the main plot. And one example is uh... @Crimson Flame Me and Kindred discussed a sort of, major, kinda serious role for Lucian to play in the story down the line... and this time I don't mean going to wake Morgan up and then having his ear talked off for what feels like hours. What we have worked up kinda comes with the territory of playing a Prince of Heart, but I'm sure you knew from the beginning that choosing to play a Prince of Heart was going to end up making him very important to the story in some way. But we also figure you have your own plans so, we want to work with everybody on what those plans might be, without having to spoil everybody on everything that is going to happen, both in this story we have cooked up, and in your own stories. Otherwise there wouldn't be much point in telling it would there?

Also we're not trying to force it on you so, it's something to talk about rather than us saying 'This is what Lucian's role is going to be, the end'.

So yeah, bring up your questions, issues, and all that and me and Kindred will work with you all on this. But we wanted to create something that really drives the RP forward, and gives us all something to actually make this a GROUP RP, as I personally just have felt like we are dangerously close to everybody just splitting off on their own to basically do their own solo/1x1 RPs, at which point there wouldn't be much point to this being a group RP at all. I'm not saying anybody is doing that currently. Just that we want to give everybody a reason to engage with a central narrative, and we didn't want that to just be 'Kingdom Hearts but we have replaced Sora, Donald, and Goofy.'

Everybody is intended to be a main character in this story, so we want to work with you all to make that the case.

@Sadu So, a couple of thoughts on this new direction

1) New Story Direction

Good

I have made no secret of my disdain for KH's rambling, writing by the seat of his pants storytelling where every game reveals "Don't you realize that you've been had! You defeating me last time was always part of my REAL grand master plan! and you defeating this REAL grand master plan only furthers my REAL REAL grand master plan!" So, as someone who has run a successful multi-year RPG by making an actually coherent story using the basic frame of the old, i can definitely say that this WILL flow better.

2) Organization XIII

Honestly, pretty much what i did with his concept as well. Although my idea was less "Capture the power of other beings authority" and more "Brainwash and empower those with Authority to do the Organization's bidding while Nobodies created based on Classic Disney Heroes serve as Puppetmasters "Trusted Advisors" to keep them in line with the Organizations goals." So, it was characters like Antonio Madrigal paired with a Mufasa Nobody with his dominion over beasts and sent to the Pride Lands, Wort paired with a Robin Hood nobody with his dominion over all Britons and sent to Nottingham and Melody paired with an Ariel Nobody with her dominion over the Sea and sent to Portorosso

I also had a running plot with Pinocchio being seen as "The Key to us Nobodies getting real hearts" Because, Pinnochio is, in this setting, an Artificial Nobody that was given a Heart. So, the Organization was hell-bent on finding him and finding out how it happened. This meant that one of the Black Cloak figures jumping around worlds and hiding from everyone turned out to be Geppetto, a student of Ansem The Wise alongside Xehanort and Garland who was seen as the leading authority on Artifical Nobody creation. Naturally, all 3 of the students went i 3 different directions. Xehanort chose to save the whole universe at any cost, Garland chose to save his own planet at any cost and Geppetto, who was infertile, chose to make a son for himself and live a peaceful life.

Also, i didn't call them Organization XIII because i didn't want the party drawing parallels between this story and the cast of forgettable cannonfodder the games had.

3) Our own Villans

I did have a few idea's for villains for the various characters:

Dotty: Currently thinking of how to introduce Cruella DeVille as well as making her a credible threat in a way that's not too... Fanficcy. Possibly thinking of her finding the Bandora Staff and then being recruited by Maleficent. (As Maleficent only really cares about villains with ACTUAL power, rather than just an old rich lady.)

Zen-Aku: Currently thinking of some Wild Force and/or Jungle Fury villains making an appearance soon. I kinda like the idea of maybe Jellica, Overlord of the Sea making an appearance in Little Mermaid world or Whiger appearing in the Pride Lands. Definitely want his "Final Boss" to be Master Org in some form. Potentially thinking of Cruella being tricked by Maleficent in the same way Riku tricked Maleficent and then give her the Magic beans that turns you into Master Org. But again, a little too fanficy for my liking and i'm certain there's a better way to do it.
Launchpad: Honestly, i kinda want Maleficent to pick up one of the Ducktales/Darkwing Duck villains as one of her cohorts. Possibly Megavolt, Magica Dyspell or Quackerjack. Kinda like the running joke of Launchpad being like "Finally, my nemesis" and them beng like "I'm sorry, and you are?"
Leon: Leon's nemesis will be the Black Knight haunting him.

4) Group 1x1 style
Honestly, not the worst way of doing it. We regularly have those kinds of RP's on here, usually Superhero based, but they always end up being quite fun.

@Sadu

1. Where does the final confrontation w/ Ansem go down?
2. Are we nixing the part where Ansem the Wise had his identity stolen? Therefore the Ansem here is THE Ansem?

@Sadu

1. Where does the final confrontation w/ Ansem go down?
2. Are we nixing the part where Ansem the Wise had his identity stolen? Therefore the Ansem here is THE Ansem?

I believe there was a mix-up in this part. Ansem won't be the Villain of Kingdom Hearts 1. He's still currently Diz and Alias' biological father. Though instead of his identity being stolen, it was Uther.

Uther's final confrontation will go down in Hollow Bastion after the penultimate battles in Camelot.

But to clarify Ansem the Wise, Uther(possessed), and Old Xehanort will be 3 different people.

1. He's still currently Diz and Alias' biological father.

Wow, spoilers. :P I don’t actually know who Ansem is. I still haven’t finished KH1 And as someone who hasn’t finished the series, I don’t have much to comment on the actual plot. I’m along for the ride.

I expected Lucian would be important. Why else would I play a Prince of Heart in the first place.

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Wow, spoilers. :P I don’t actually know who Ansem is. I still haven’t finished KH1 And as someone who hasn’t finished the series, I don’t have much to comment on the actual plot. I’m along for the ride.

I expected Lucian would be important. Why else would I play a Prince of Heart in the first place.

Lol I figured it was hinted at enough to not be considered a major spoiler now.

Also, @mattmanganon, since we're on the subject. I'm fine with Gepetto and Garland also being students of Ansem. You should definitely talk to @Sadu more about Pinocchio and the whole idea of putting hearts in Nobodies.

I don't mind Cruella receiving the Bandora Staff and becoming a proper villainess. She could even use it to monsterfy Fluffy.

Jellica's cool with me being in the Little Mermaid working with Ursula or being awakened in the chaos of Atlantis.

Whiger would be cool as long as he's an actual suped up tiger in Pride Lands since it's a world of animals.

I feel like Magica would be the only Maleficent would tolerate. She's like her in duck form, even down to their pet ravens, so I'm cool with that as well.

Yeah there is still a few details to work out here and there, some miscommunications to iron out but you all get the general plot here. Will respond more once I am free from work.

As to where the final confrontation happens, I dont think we decided yet.

I think a lot of this story will focus on what a heart is, what it means to have a heart, how you cant simply replace one because everything that makes you who you are is your heart. A Nobody is just the renains of a person who died, and has lost what makes them who they are, which is why they are disconnected from their past life and who they used to be. But at the same time, new hearts can be created by living life, creating new memories, experiencing emotions. But it is not an easy process once a heart is lost, unless they can reclaim their original heart.

Oh also one thing we talked about, not set in stone but it is the idea that each of the Princesses (and Prince) of Heart will be tied to a villain that represents one of the Seven Deadly Sins. For example, Mulan is a Princess of Heart, her nemesis is Shan Yu, the avatar of Wrath, and the Emperor holds Royal Authority in their world.

This all depends on who ends up being Princesses of Heart.