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Grif of Hearts said
Nobody told me we were having a Nova School reunion. Hi y'all. ^^*Grif scribbles up notes for a quarian biotic character*


"Gary's mother had an accident on her pilgrimage. She said it was the exposure to element zero."
"Gary became the most loved and feared member of quarian society due to his immensely powerful biotics, greater than an asari ranked in the top 20 of asari biotics."
"Gary was misunderstood and had some "problems," and got kicked out by bad people. Now he's thinking he should sell his shit to this Nova gang for gold."
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Wait, Tanya's dead fiancee really became a quarian swindler?

What a twist!
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Well, technically a Quarian biotic is possible, its just that the likelihood of one surviving even his or her first day of life is so minimal that you don't see them, not to mention the fact that the conditions required to give someone biotics occuring in the migrant fleet basically means your ships reactor just blew up....

<- Gets that you guys are joking...
<- Feels like explaining anyway, because its fun. xD
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Exploding reactors are the equivalent of a quarian weather forecast.
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Dervish said
Wait, Tanya's dead fiancee really became a quarian swindler?What a twist!


He was a quarian literally within a human.
Another thing to add to the list of Tanya's strange preferences.
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Dervish said
Wait, Tanya's dead fiancee really became a quarian swindler?What a twist!


I thought he was eaten by a cybug at the wedding?
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Well, technically a Quarian biotic is possible, its just that the likelihood of one surviving even his or her first day of life is so minimal that you don't see them, not to mention the fact that the conditions required to give someone biotics occuring in the migrant fleet basically means your ships reactor just blew up....<- Gets that you guys are joking...<- Feels like explaining anyway, because its fun. xD


Canon talk is awesome. Carry on.

I could see a quarian maybe-somehow getting exposed to eezo if they were mining for the right company. Not sure how it'd get through the suit, though. And I always assumed it had to directly contact them/didn't radiate through anything.
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Aww, I did not know I missed the Nova reunion. I'm in the same situation as Sir Enzyme more or less, hoping I have time to get my RP hat back on during the summer.
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Aww, I did not know I missed the Nova reunion. I'm in the same situation as Sir Enzyme more or less, hoping I have time to get my RP hat back on during the summer.


It'd be awesome to have you guys back around. :] I'm happy to help y'all in whatever way you need, if you ever decide to get back in gear for Nova.
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Hello again everyone. I've revised my Character Sheet using the critiques given by everyone. If something more needs fixing(It wouldn't surprise me), let me know and I'll happily adjust whatever it is.
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Canon talk is awesome. Carry on.I could see a quarian maybe-somehow getting exposed to eezo if they were mining for the right company. Not sure how it'd get through the suit, though. And I always assumed it had to directly contact them/didn't radiate through anything.


The way humans get Biotics (I believe its the same for all non-Asari species) is for a child to be exposed to Ezo while still in the womb and then be lucky enough to not die horrifically from Ezo poisoning. Quarian immune systems being what they are, I cant see anything less than a 100% death rate for in-utero children exposed to Ezo....
I'd say there was probably a rare occurence of Quarian Biotics before the Geth happened, back when their immune systems still worked like they were supposed to, but now It hink they'd just die.
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There's more, but I can't say it's really improved... what you added just added more issues and complications and honestly feels really tried and overdone without any real justification for it. You didn't really change anything, just kind of shoe horned a couple suggestions in without really taking what we were saying to heart.

Still the same whole tragic childhood origin story where the Conclave is basically giving a 13 year old kid the equivilant of a death sentence, even though as I've said more than a couple times that quarians can't afford to casually discard their population, especially when it wasn't a huge crime. We still don't have any justification of how or why a 13 year old knows how to fly a ship, and I've seen enough character sheets to know that if a child's capable of doing something that takes years of training, you're not in for anything good. So yeah, it still has the same issues as before.

So the kid gets the boot and moseys around the galaxy and ends up on one of the most dangerous shitholes in the galaxy without any training whatsoever; quarians going to Omega isn't exactly the most common choice, but at least they had the pilgrimage training. This is like taking some American kid from an impoverished neighbourhood and him finding his way to Kandahar. Once there, he somehow joins up with the Blue Suns, who pride themselves on their professionalism and standards, and they somehow think a young kid from a pariah race is somehow a good bet for recruitment and trust him with their lives on an assault. Also, just because they lost members doesn't mean they're going to plug them with whoever just happened to be on the street. Real life private military contractors like Blackwater hire almost exclusively military vets and former special forces for a reason. The Blue Suns are the same way.

And then suddenly, the kid's a sharpshooter who has a blood lust. It's kind of an over-simplified way for someone to look at killing, don't you think? He went from being a snotty kid to a stone-cold, steady handed killer in the length of half a paragraph. This... doesn't bode well.

The second I saw that he was partnered with a batarian, I saw his twist betrayal coming from a mile away. It's so easy to use batarians as the stock "bad guy" race that I'm honestly shocked whenever I see them portrayed in a decent light on this site. And if I had a dollar for every time I saw the whole "betrayed for no apparent reason" trope, I'd be able to buy myself a nice Rolex. Seriously, why the heck would the Blue Suns go through all this time and effort to hire on this pariah kid with no military training or maturity, trust them with top of the line equipment and hardware, as well as with their lives and deployments, just to go through this elaborate effort to set of this "fake" assassination contract? Like, who is this guy that he killed? Why did he kill him? Why was he immediately betrayed and set into a jail? Really, none of it adds of, and it only seems to exist to be cheap drama.

And HOW the heck did he escape from jail after three months? People just don't waltz out of maximum security prison, and I can promise you a prison would be NOWHERE near a spaceport where a runaway convict could somehow get past security and stow away on a ship (once again, a REALLY big stretch). So now this kid, who somehow learned how to be a jail breaker during his few months with this PMC company that hired him on and betrayed him for reasons unknown, is headed to a Citadel Space homeworld on a planet that's notorious for having a fairly reclusive and xenophobic society on a planet that's 90% ocean cover that supports levo-amino acid based organisms instead of dextro-amino acid organisms like quarians, so what's he going to eat? Even non-purified turian food can make him horribly sick, so his options are exceedingly limited and starvation and dehydration is looking miiiighty likely at this point.

Oh, and somehow he can recognize a smuggling vessel that somehow managed to clear Kahje customs.. and wait, what?! He just somehow knew where to find an armoury and break into it to steal what should be VERY secured firearms? Nobody noticed? No security footage picked it up? How the heck did he manage to break into it in the first place and make it past armed guards when, as I mentioned, he should be starving (space travel can still take several weeks, by the way. FTL travel is only so fast, and Mass Effect relays only propel you to certain systems), a suit rupture will be fatal for him, so even if he's not killed on sight, he's risking a slow, painful death by taking a stupid, pointless risk.

Also, assuming he manages to procure those weapons, how the heck is he going to get back into a spaceport, which once again has high security like any airport you've ever seen while being a race that's routinely pulled aside and "questioned" because everyone thinks quarians are thieves and rats, while carrying two weapons that you can't exactly conceal and would show up on scanners the second they tried to pass through.

Oh, and he somehow stole this ship he somehow eyeballed as a smuggling ship right off the bat. Terrific.

I hate to be harsh, man, but I really don't think this is the right game for you.
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Stella said
Aww, I did not know I missed the Nova reunion. I'm in the same situation as Sir Enzyme more or less, hoping I have time to get my RP hat back on during the summer.


Oh man, everyone's coming out of the wood works!

Nice to see you again, we do miss you! Although, I do think we need to write Jeanna and Tillus out of the story, since you guys have been gone for quite a while and aren't going to be able to return for some time. :/
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I guess you're right Dervish. I thought I had done better but I guess that was just me hoping. And it isn't really harsh, just honesty. I don't know as much about ME as I should. And I meant to change his age, I had thought about that aspect and thought I had went in and changed it. All well. I think I'll sit this one out, I don't have the material for this. I may still try and fix the whole thing but I'll stay out of here to keep from spamming the forum. Sorry guys. Keep up the good work.
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Mista Slaya said
I guess you're right Dervish. I thought I had done better but I guess that was just me hoping. And it isn't really harsh, just honesty. I don't know as much about ME as I should. And I meant to change his age, I had thought about that aspect and thought I had went in and changed it. All well. I think I'll sit this one out, I don't have the material for this. I may still try and fix the whole thing but I'll stay out of here to keep from spamming the forum. Sorry guys. Keep up the good work.


And that my friend, is how to go out like a sir.
*tips hat*
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Like a gentleman, my unknown friend, like a gentleman.

I may be a dick, but I may steal that sheet and rework it to see if I can't sort it for you. And all material need is mass effect wiki :)

So keep the head straight, I'm not a miracle worker, but you know, I might be able to craft a quarian :)
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The way humans get Biotics (I believe its the same for all non-Asari species) is for a child to be exposed to Ezo while still in the womb and then be lucky enough to not die horrifically from Ezo poisoning. Quarian immune systems being what they are, I cant see anything less than a 100% death rate for in-utero children exposed to Ezo....I'd say there was probably a rare occurence of Quarian Biotics before the Geth happened, back when their immune systems still worked like they were supposed to, but now It hink they'd just die.


I did have a longer post talking about why I didn’t think the quarian immune system would have any effect on the mortality rates of quarian biotics… but my internet cut out when I tried to post it and so I lost the entire thing. I tried to write it up again and the same thing happened! Here’s a tl;dr version because I really can’t be bothered to type it up again.

> It’s the same method for all species, although the krogan did develop an alternative technique to bestow biotics. This process could be done on people of ages, all the way up to adulthood. It had an incredibly high mortality rate though, even among krogan, meaning it fell into disuse after the genophage. Because the traditional method of producing adepts also has a high death rate it seems as if the krogan adept is a dying race. D:

> I don’t think that the quarian immune system would have anything to do with survival rates in biotic individuals. The immune system works by acknowledging proteins on pathogens/tissue and using this to recognise whether or not the target is a foreign body. If it is then it is destroyed. Exposure to element zero produces mutations in the organism’s genome, producing the known birth defects. Unfortunately, these mutations are still part of the organism’s body, so in most cases will contain the same proteins as healthy tissue. Because of this the immune system would recognise it as normal and not react. Regardless of the effectiveness of the species’ immune system, from krogan to quarian, it would not matter as the immune system would not be actively working to destroy these mutations at all.

> As far as I can tell, other than the usual complications that come with the production of biotic-sensitive individuals, there are three primary reasons why quarian adepts are almost non-existent.

Relative scarcity of Element Zero: With the Migrant Fleet’s tight policies on resource management, no ship admiral in their right mind would willingly waste element zero on producing biotic-sensitive children when it would be put to far better use maintaining the many ships that compose the fleet. This means that there would be no attempt to purposely create adept quarians, as opposed to other species where it was somewhat common (albeit almost always done in secret).

Shipsplosions!: Because there would be no purposeful exposure to element zero aboard the Migrant Fleet, we can assume the only chance of a quarian adept appearing is through chance. As mentioned, dust-form element zero would be released by a critically damaged mass drive. However, the mother of the soon-to-be biotic would have be pregnant, exposed to a significant amount of dust-form element zero, and survive the oncoming catastrophe of an exploding ship in order to actually birth the child. A combination of these would be incredibly rare.

Environmental suits: I also imagine that, with the efficiency of the quarian environmental suits at filtering contaminants from the air, it would have no problem removing dust-form element zero. This would mean exposure would be impossible without a suit rupture.
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This is quickly turning unto a university course.

Continue!
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I stand in awe of your superior reasoning and knowledge Grif.

Moar. I demand Moar!
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Biotics make pretty blue colours in the sky.
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