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Pls no fighting or arguing.

Zobozun, I'll have to talk to Kurisa cause we already allowed 1 Christian character, who was the exception. Two would be really pushing it
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@Phobos

Who's the other one?!
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I'm not entirely sure if that spot has been taken yet oxo trying to find out if it is, but if its not then the spot is all yours ^.^ I'll try to find out by tomorrow since its getting late here

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@Phobos Okay, no problem. I'll get started on a CS today in any case.
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@yoshua171 You shouldn't go around calling people trolls under any circumstances. A person's account lives and dies by its reputation, and on a site like this there's few reputations worse than a possible game-ruiner. Calling someone a troll could get them kicked from the game in a kneejerk reaction even when it isn't true, which is no fun for anyone.

This isn't something to be brushed off with a "lol good game". Be more careful in the future.

@CaughtInTheRiddle A number of Orthodox denominations do teach that the soul goes through a series of trials after death before reaching what could be called the true afterlife, so I feel it's actually a perfectly valid way of thinking for a traditionalist Christian.

@Phobos The character was originally for the other faction, but that fell through, so I adapted it to be a regular shinigami. That said, Christian missionaries and the subsequent persecution thereof played a fairly large role in 16th and 17th century Japan, so I felt the concept was still fairly valid.
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@Zobozun

But as I stated, wouldn't using a Zanpakuto and Kido and what not, under a Christian/Orthodox or any similar religion, be seen as using magic?

...which is forbidden.

Witches are the puppets of the devil. Magic is a spawn of the Devils trickery and sin.
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Eh. I trust the GMs enough to not take the first impression of a single RPer as their final say on whether to expel someone. Say what you will about my decisions, but honestly if one is a troll, their response to being called a troll is typically very indicative as to whether or not they ought to be taken seriously. I never said it in a confrontational manner, nor did I particularly mean it as an insult. I simply called it as it seemed to me at the time.

Anything else is the perception of the reader and while I'll take responsibility for allowing people to decide the what the tone of my words may have been, I do not take responsibility for the conclusions they may or may not have come to as a result.

By the way, since you responded intelligently and calmly to being called a troll, rather than rage out of control, you're probably not one. I tip my hat to you.

More often than not a troll is confrontational and seeks attention, typically insulting others to gain more of it, even if it gets them in trouble repeatedly. It is better to call someone a troll early, and be wrong, than not do so and be right only for them to later explode on someone and cause a huge problem in the group dynamic.

Regardless, I'll drop it as we've been told not to argue :)

I wish you no ill will and should you be accepted/stay I look forwards to interactions between our characters, though mine is yet to be finished--man is it giving me a lot of trouble--though I hope to remedy that within the next few days or so. Anywho, I'm rambling, back to what I was doing.
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@CaughtInTheRiddle Except that's wrong, since early Christians had a clear denomination between good magic and evil magic, which the evil magic being known colloquially as "sorcery". Sorcery, specifically, was things like consorting with the devil, and is banned under the Ten Commandments. It did not include charms, wards, homeopathic medicine, and other minor supersitions, which were considered a benign form of magic. In fact, Jesus and the Apostles are occasionally referred to as "magicians" in some texts, for their power to work miracles.

And then past that you have Judeo-Christian hero figures such as King Solomon, who bound demons and spirits to serve him and create his kingdom. Moses is also referred to as a "magician" or "wizard" (actually an old phrase meaning "wise man", fun fact) in several apocryphal texts, and is portrayed as being able to create miracles even without the aid of God. In one variation of the myth he's actually so damn hardcore that God has to send down a chariot and bodily grab him and take him to Heaven becuase Moses just outright refuses to die.

That's not even getting into the fact that one could very easily reinterpret all those things as holy miracles even if they did subscribe to a Salem-style burn-the-witch philosophy.

Frankly it seems like you all just have some kind of grudge against Christianity, which I don't really get. Judeo-Christian legends and scripture are actually a very in-depth and fascinating mythology and I'd suggest reading up on it if you have the time.
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Funnily enough, I have read up on my Christian mythology :)

I also own The Key of Solomon, and know quite enough about the man himself.

And I was thinking of magic in the 16th and 17th century, because, not a lot of people tend to talk about life in the extremely early days. And furthermore, you mentioned it to Phobos - perhaps I was wrong, but I took that as an indication of a particular time period your character once resided in.

That was the time of the Tudors, and in those years, there was quite a lot of unrest between the nations, and for the western countries, Catholicism was the key governing religion. And soon, when Henry VIII fell for Anne Boleyn, the world would be changed forever as Henry converted to Protestantism - and this particular branch, today, would be classified as Anglican.

In these days, the works of Jesus, his deciples and even Moses, before him, were devine, however by this stage, charms, wards and many of the homeopathic medicines were banned by the Catholic and Protestant churches as they were forms of magic.

There were rare cases where homeopathic medicines were permitted, for instance, when King Frances II, of France fell ill. They tried many different methods of curing his disease - however to no avail. Or so the story goes anyway.

Forgive me for presuming your character came from this time period. I'm not looking for an argument, but as a student of history, if your character did come from this time period and did follow a western religion, the works of the Gotei 13 would be sinful and unholy.

Not to mention that Judeo-Christianity is a relatively new term, dating back to (forgive my memory) the 18th or very early 19th century?

But I'll leave it at that :)

Don't want to clog up the OOC with trivial nonsense like this. I didn't mean offence by it, was just trying to understand :)

*goes back to reading the battle*
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But the Soul Society has never shown to have any type of religion since they've all pretty much forgotten about it and have basically lost all memories and the concept of religion. The only reason why Hontu's characters was able to retain their beliefs was because not all of their memories were lost when she transferred to the Soul Society.
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Currently berating one of the GM's to help me with the skills since she has gone down from captain to seated =w=
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@Phobos

The metal is strong with this one.

@Zobozun
But the Soul Society has never shown to have any type of religion since they've all pretty much forgotten about it and have basically lost all memories and the concept of religion. The only reason why Hontu's characters was able to retain their beliefs was because not all of their memories were lost when she transferred to the Soul Society.


The idea that a soul loses its memories when crossing over to the Soul Society is an incorrect detail added in one of the non-canon movies that was never true elsewhere. Even as early as the very beginning of the SS arc this was shown to be patently false when Ichigo and company met up with the kid that was previously trapped inside a parakeet. The kid had no problems recollecting his life as a human. I don't really understand how the whole "souls get amnesia of their human life" thing got so widely accepted. That being said, since souls live for hundreds or thousands of years I can easily see them forgetting human life eventually on the grounds that it was so long ago and just doesn't matter anymore.
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@Phobos Thank you. I move it to the character tab now?
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I don't know if you guys missed my character earlier but here she is again. I basically just changed around the history, added bankai, and turned Zanjutsu from "Expert" to "Master".

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@PhobosWowwwwwww den might wanna just erase the cool down part in the cs to prevent spamming XD Ya know to not tell peeps about it.
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The Adeptus Sororitas can do Acts of Faith, which are basically magic, but still go all zealous as fuck when it comes to anything even remotely a witch. And it fits because you can not, unless you are a total moron, say the Emperor is not The most overt Christian thing ever.

Also, 'Suffer not the Witch to Live' was added by King James, so it's not Canon.
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Here's my CS so far. Please let me know if the 5th Lieutenant spot has been taken already and I'll make the necessary changes.

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All these other sheets. I feel like my sheet might get buried.
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@Hantu KongkekDon't worry man, the GMs (and as an assistant, myself) will for sure take a look at it. No need to repeatedly post it ^_^
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