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It wasn't a problem until Juno started showing up and our challenges, and some of the player base, started racing to catch up to Juno's presence. When I lost to Henry, I was a bit bummed, but Henry was pretty top tier, had a weapon that specifically countered me, and such. I was eager to get back on the horse, upgraded the Daimyo, and wanted round two.

Then Juno showed up, and after I dodged/countered the first attack, she by action said "No, you can't damage me, and you are no longer permitted to dodge, immediately take damage." Ok. Not much I can do about that, but maybe I can hope to not fight Juno.

But then both Henry and Grafdakka started growing (very literally in Grafdakka's case) to try and catch up to Juno so that they could be meaningful in the fight. Henry established his new defense to be so high that Miyu could never hope to scratch him, even when he didn't have the silver eye armor up. Grafdakka grew to the size of a mountain, and my dreams of an awesome mecha fight got crushed as easily as the Daimyo would get crushed underfoot by the new Grafdakka. I felt there was a split growing between people who were growing new powers (there was quite the kerflufle about teleport blocking shenanigans) or establishing their power levels so generally high to be able to compete with Juno, and those who were staying true to their original power levels more in tune with the fighting shown at the Elicitor battle.


I...think this is something you need to be discussing with the RPers of these characters.

When Corrin showed up as a counter to Juno in the next battle, Syphax launched an all or nothing attack, with support from Omega and Tartys, all of whom got had just gotten thunderstones. Corrin immediately responded with "I effortlessly counter all your attacks, and launch my own attacks with them." I'm honestly expecting this to be a contest between Juno and Corrin, where all the other characters limp off when they realize "Your power level is not tall enough to ride this ride." With Juno creating the void path to exit and telling everybody else to take it, and Corrin exclaiming how weak and worthless they are which explains why they were dragged into said meaningless war, I feel like that's what you and KoL intended.

I feel like I made a character who could have had fun, and then the power level required to be more than an audience member went up faster than I was able to compensate for. And, I am frustrated with that. But I'm willing to just table Miyu until enough turns offscreen have passed that she can show up with a more appropriate powerset, while I play with my new characters who can play with the new established base powerlevel.


Now hold on a minute. Did the thunderstones specifically buff up their attacks? If not, then of course the boss is going to counter because your attacks are not buffed. If so, then that's on me.
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I...think this is something you need to be discussing with the RPers of these characters.


When I'm saying that there are two groups that the players seem to be splitting into, those who are growing exponentially to try and keep up with Juno and those who aren't, the RPers in question is "Everyone".*

Some of the issues have been resolved, such as Endian's anti-teleport, resulting in the creation of the Shadow Lists. What I'm saying is that I think this was a solution to a symptom, and not the underlying cause.

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Now hold on a minute. Did the thunderstones specifically buff up their attacks? If not, then of course the boss is going to counter because your attacks are not buffed. If so, then that's on me.


There's a big disconnect along the lines of "Dora assumed she had to hammer the thunderstones into buffs for other people and give those to them, but got killed before she could" and "Everyone else assumed they just had to be given thunderstones to get buffed and so took thunderstones from Dora before she got killed".

This is honestly one of those things that makes me balk at the no edit policy, because without editting to resolve this, either Dora is an moron, or everyone who took a thunderstone is. Neither option really lends itself to a war epic, but instead a comedy of errors.

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*Aka, I'm just as bummed to see Grafdakka grow so fast I'll never be able to fight him unless I pull an Imperator Titan out of my ass, as I am to see Tartys sitting and playing mournful music because she felt like all she did in the last battle was get saved by Omega. There's got to be some happy middle ground and I'm running my mouth so much because I would very much like to find it.
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There's a big disconnect along the lines of "Dora assumed she had to hammer the thunderstones into buffs for other people and give those to them, but got killed before she could" and "Everyone else assumed they just had to be given thunderstones to get buffed and so took thunderstones from Dora before she got killed".

This is honestly one of those things that makes me balk at the no edit policy, because without editting to resolve this, either Dora is an moron, or everyone who took a thunderstone is. Neither option really lends itself to a war epic, but instead a comedy of errors.


The intention of the no edit policy is to people don't cheat and metagame. I think I said before that there are some exceptions to this, such as editing a post to avoid confusion. In any case, I'll just assume the thunderstones made an effect to people's attacks then.
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@The 42nd Gecko Hate to be that guy but I have to null that point with Syphax, him and not-Corrin would be pretty damn close to an even match if Ni-Mu hadn't stuck him in the leg earlier. Because who wins, the one that creates an element, or the one that lives in it?

And speaking of characteristics, let's take a moment to clear the air about the overly large selection of characters I've accrued.

Sliske: Much weaker on his own, absolute beast when he does his job right and summons his army. Rarely does his job right. Hates everyone, would not got to a bar with anyone that isn't in a position of power above him.

Torag: Basically a tank with legs, only real weakness is how slow he is. Hates demons, indifferent about the Machina, wouldn't go to a bar because he's dead.

Syphax: Lesser Sky Juno. Doesn't have a particular beef with anyone besides Rufus, would go to a bar with other Angels. If someone else shows up, so be it.

Marquis: The only actual sniper, is theoretically more powerful than anyone until someone figures out where he is. Too suspicious of everyone, would only go to this one bar that's really close to Eos' chambers.
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@TheWindel I don't believe anyone "spent" their thunderstone purely on attack power, I'll double check, but I do believe they were assuming that they would be receiving some sort of buff from the thunderstones.
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I don't believe anyone "spent" their thunderstone purely on attack power, I'll double check, but I do believe they were assuming that they would be receiving some sort of buff from the thunderstones.


The thunderstones belong to Dora; if they were assuming a buff, they need to consult @Lucius Cypher on it.
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@Mega Birb

Sliske: I like Sliske, he's cool.

Torag: I'd also say his lack of range is a weakness. Also, he's so slow that he's never actually gotten to fight anything but a Killa Kan or two, right?

Syphax: I honestly hope so. I thought from the tone of the discussion that Corrin was completely toying with him. But I hope to be wrong!

Marquis: So, are Zyata, Hibiki, and Zealot, all on vacations?
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@TheWindel You are correct, they don't seem to have used them on double check. My error.
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@The 42nd Gecko
Zyata's temporary (as far as I know), I did not know Hibiki had a sniper rifle, and Zealot's the equivalent of a Huntsman Sniper.

Also you're right about Torag, I should probably give him some kind of speed buff.
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@Mega Birb Hibiki scored the first sniper kill of the game, on Victoire. #ThingsIKeepTrackOf

Also, you know as well as I do that Hanzo is a sniper, and you will lose when you have two of him and three Widowmakers.

Zyata's.. Minor. If the amazons ever show up again, I'll have her in the crowd.
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Zyata is temporary. Amazons don't usually participate in the battles.
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@The 42nd Gecko Yes, but you win when one of the Widowmakers has aimbot.

I HAVE ACCIDENTLY MADE A PUN.
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@Mega Birb Oooh, nice one, I didn't even notice.
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@The 42nd Gecko Yes, but you win when one of the Widowmakers has aimbot.

I HAVE ACCIDENTLY MADE A PUN.


*appears for OverWatch portion of discussion*

That depends. Is Seagull on the enemy team? If so then no, you do not win with aimbot.

*Rejoins "spectators" in case there is more debate"
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@Awesomoman64 Hmm... You're right, we don't have a seagull devil yet, and they're certainly creatures that deserve one.
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I have another character from another RP that could fit the bill as a traitor to the Machina that joined the demons and can hack stuff, but I really don't wanna juggle five characters. And no it isn't Aderyn.
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*Appears from the shadows of inactivity*

Hey guys. I must sincerely apologize for my lack of activity in this RP. I'm not going to leave this RP, but rather I want to say that in this event that's happening, I'd like to not partake in it. I could've posted more for Ghelgath but for Zeruel, I don't think he's the kind of guy who would want to partake in these games. My absence is also the fault of school and other outside sources, but mostly due to not expecting for feeling much for the event.

Just ignore my characters, like mention Ghelgath being in it, but not winning and pretend Zeruel didnt partake in the first place. I'll have them come in after the game event and have them join the next one.

Again, so sorry for not letting you guys know earlier, but better now than never or leaving. Hope yall understand.
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@Lmpkio

That should be fine. Thanks for informing us.
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@Lmpkio

That should be fine. Thanks for informing us.


Thank you for understanding. Please let me know when you're finished with the event so I can reintroduce my characters again. Just to check in, how far have you all progressed atm?
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Just to check in, how far have you all progressed atm?


Assuming the Angels beat the boss room, we should almost be done with this round.
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