[OOC] The War of the Three

[BCTheEntity]

@TheWindel@KoL I suppose that's fair enough, though the guy ideally does need some reason in his backstory to be a mad scientist. I don't just want to write him in as having always been crazy and intelligent, and years of slavery is a perfect opportunity... how about this: the particular piece of demon-corrupted Machina tech that turned him crazy aside, he doesn't have any particular equipment aligned with either demons or humans to start with, possibly for lack of ability to acquire it before then. However, aside from its primary purpose, and as a side effect of what it was used to do to him previously, perhaps he could also use that bit of tech to modify just his wings, changing their appearance between angelic, machinesque, and demonic?

[Inner Demon]

@KoLZaK by the way. ;P

[TheWendil]

@BCTheEntity

Hmm. With all that, wouldn't it make sense for him to be a Fallen Harpy and fight for Hell? Or even a full blown demonic mechanical harpy and fight for the Machina.

[Flood]

@BCTheEntity

Hmm. With all that, wouldn't it make sense for him to be a Fallen Harpy and fight for Hell? Or even a full blown demonic mechanical harpy and fight for the Machina.

@TheWindel

Yes, join the Demon Emp- wait I'm not with the Demons anymore huh? Join the Machina Empire, we have badass tech that blows shit up.

[BCTheEntity]

@TheWindel I mean, potentially, but again, unless he was actually mind-controlled to want to work for one of those factions, why would he go against the rest of his race's inclinations? And as @KoL said, a more complex character is less likely to be accepted if it doesn't come up to your standards; if it's all the same to you, I'd rather minimise his complexity whilst keeping the general character concept similar if I have to go with one or the other.

[KoL]

@BCTheEntity

What @TheWindel said is indeed relevant. Also, I still don't have a nice grasp of your character with just this. I means Demons don't do that kind of experiment on people, slaves are just worked to death, literally and then used again after they revive, over and over and over. Slavery would also be a bad place to say that your character got increasingly intelligent since a dangerous slave would just be thrown into a dark cell to rot forever.

@KoLZaK by the way. ;P

@Inner Demon

Details, details...

[TheWendil]

@BCTheEntity

If you want him simplified, wouldn't it be easier to not make him a composite of all three Factions then? The biggest example is his wings; if you're going for simple, why does his wings change from demonic, angelic, and mechanical?

[Lonewolf685]

@TheWindel@KoL I suppose that's fair enough, though the guy ideally does need some reason in his backstory to be a mad scientist. I don't just want to write him in as having always been crazy and intelligent, and years of slavery is a perfect opportunity... how about this: the particular piece of demon-corrupted Machina tech that turned him crazy aside, he doesn't have any particular equipment aligned with either demons or humans to start with, possibly for lack of ability to acquire it before then. However, aside from its primary purpose, and as a side effect of what it was used to do to him previously, perhaps he could also use that bit of tech to modify just his wings, changing their appearance between angelic, machinesque, and demonic?

@BCTheEntity

At that point you may as well app Magnus the Red and scrap the harpy angle.

[Flood]

@BCTheEntity

If you want him simplified, wouldn't it be easier to not make him a composite of all three Factions then? The biggest example is his wings; if you're going for simple, why does his wings change from demonic, angelic, and mechanical?

@TheWindel

Aesthetics. In all seriousness though I think that the character is pretty dope, nobody has really done the mad scientist angle as of yet.

[Lonewolf685]

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Aesthetics. In all seriousness though I think that the character is pretty dope, nobody has really done the mad scientist angle as of yet.

@floodtalon

Miyu. Takizawa. Hoho. That one guy who joined, did two posts, and quit back at the RPs start. We've had several mad scientist. Few actually utilize them in any regular capacity or with interest.

[The 42nd Gecko]

@Lonewolf685 Miyu was more of a mad engineer.

[Lonewolf685]

@The 42nd Gecko

Semantics.

[KoL]

That's simple:

If they are going to app a scientist they should do a Machina character.

If its a harpy, an angel.

And if it's a chaos related character a demon.

But they can't be the three at once.

Do a coherent character, please.

[BCTheEntity]

@KoL@TheWindel I admit, I wasn't aware of the aspect of demonic culture where they don't perform experiments on their slaves. It seemed like a suitably cruel thing for them to do in my mind, but I suppose not. That said, I've also been informed that angels apparently hate Machina tech, or really anything else that isn't angelic? Because if that's the case, I could go the magitech harpy route to some extent with a bit of backstory tweaking, most notably the reason why there is demon-corrupted Machinatech around with the capacity to make somebody insane.

@Lonewolf685 No thank you. I'd like my harpy to have human proportions.

@floodtalon Thank you very much. I too enjoy aesthetics.

EDIT: I don't see how those three concepts are necessarily in conflict with one another, KoL.

[KoL]

@BCTheEntity

A magitech harpy is potentially fine, but why does it need to be corrupted and mad? That just doesn't make sense and is frankly giving quite a headache for us to even make sense of.

[Flood]

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Miyu. Takizawa. Hoho. That one guy who joined, did two posts, and quit back at the RPs start. We've had several mad scientist. Few actually utilize them in any regular capacity or with interest.

@Lonewolf685

Miyu wasn't a mad scientist, she was a engineer who betrayed people a lot. Takizawa isn't even close to mad as far as I know. Hoho isn't either, just an asshole. We haven't had a true mad scientist yet. I don't know about that other guy you mentioned tho.

[TheWendil]

Because if that's the case, I could go the magitech harpy route to some extent with a bit of backstory tweaking, most notably the reason why there is demon-corrupted Machinatech around with the capacity to make somebody insane.

@BCTheEntity

We're fine with this route but under a few conditions. If you go the magitech harpy route, it makes the most sense for them to be fighting for the Machina; but no demon-corrupted tech. Likewise, if you want demon tech then your character can fight for the Demons but no aspects of harpies at all.

I don't see how those three concepts are necessarily in conflict with one another, KoL.

@BCTheEntity

We are not accepting composite characters that have type advantages of all three Factions, regardless if they are not in conflict with each other. This would be less of an issue if you wanted your character to gradually get tech and powers from all Factions via IC trophies and accomplishments much like @The 42nd Gecko's Miyu did. But as it is now, you cannot start off with having all three.

[TheWendil]

Takizawa isn't even close to mad as far as I know.

@floodtalon

Ask @Lmpkio who Takizawa is based off of.

Hoho isn't either, just an asshole.

@floodtalon

Hoho has always declared herself as an arrogant mad scientist.

[Flood]

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Ask @Lmpkio who Takizawa is based off of.

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Hoho has always declared herself as an arrogant mad scientist.

@TheWindel

I mean, if you declare yourself mad are you really mad? Unless she's literally mad. Which is an established fact really.

[The 42nd Gecko]

@TheWindel Miyu was a mech user with holy magic from the start. And she never acquired any demonic powers.