[OOC] The War of the Three

[KoL]

@Lucius Cypher

I'll follow @TheWindel's suggestion. Of there's an explanation for why Endian can block teleportation out of the blue (given that that power had never been mentioned before, until it's existence was convenient) I'll have her interfere with Juno's teleport ability.

Also, just to be sure, what's Endian's current status? You know that there's the 2PCs per battle rule. What makes her eligible for being a NPC now, I'd she's stronger than she was before? Is what I'm asking?

[Mega Birb]

@LHudson
Did Flos just square up to Grafdakka?

[Lucius Cypher]

Nah, I dropped one of the Killa Kans on him, and now they're about to brawl. My next post will have the Kan on the attack.

[Mega Birb]

@Lucius Cypher
Speaking of which, one of those things is currently rolling towards like all the Machina.

[Lucius Cypher]

I wouldn't say all of them, and I'm sure two Killa Kans are more than able to knock aside a fallen brother to get that sweet, sweet murdery action.

[Mega Birb]

@Lucius Cypher
Wouldn't doubt it. It's not like Torag's gonna suplex one or anything. *Cough cough*

Also, y'know, collab. Dora needs to do stuff in it.

[The 42nd Gecko]

@floodtalon

Just so Floodtalon and any others who want to know, when it gets back around to a good time for me to post, Miyu's response to the missile is going to be.

*Shields* "Did you forget I had those? If they didn't block electromagnetic waves, Lasers would go straight through."

[Flood]

@The 42nd Gecko

If I recall correctly, Miyu can't fly and shield at the same time.

[quote=@The 42nd Gecko]
Engineering Dilemas: [color=a2d39c]"Hum... You've got a fully function Seiten Wing System, but that thing uses power like none other, unless I had two reactors, I'm not going to get it and the Aegis IX running at the same time. Losing shields whenever I fly will be crippling when fighting angels, and I don't think I'm good enough to engineer a solution with two reactors... Maybe a capacitor system? Eh, that's only a bandage, but it might be my best option with the parts I've got.
[/quote]

And Miyu has been flying for a while now, so I don't see her still having shields up after all this punishment she's taken.

[The 42nd Gecko]

@floodtalon

She's had her shields OFF this entire time she's been flying, because no ranged attacks have been aimed at her (other than some from Grafdakka and Co, but Jorm conveniently helped her dodge). So that capacitor is still fully charged because she hasn't used it.

The punishment Miyu has taken has entirely been melee attacks, which the shield can't stop anyway, so... No point having them on.

[Flood]

@The 42nd Gecko

Ok, that makes sense. I do imagine that the EMP would have some sort of shield bypassing effect though, if it didn't it would he useless considering how many pieces of Machina tech have shields. It doesn't have to completely shut down the Mech, I just think it would at least take out your wings for a bit.

Edit: Quick question. If the missile hit you directly would the EMP completely shut you down? I don't know about the Daimyo's missile detection system, but Henry didn't even yell loudly about vengeance this time when he attacked.

[The 42nd Gecko]

@floodtalon Well, here's the thing. Why would the machina ever design and deployed EMP weapons that could only be used to hurt their own faction? For disabling and capturing traitors, maybe. But you'd never deploy such a risky weapon unless you had a countermeasure.

That's my backstory reason they discontinued Miyu's Daimyo mech... Because a mech designed such that it's best at fighting Machina is a really horrendous waste of resources and would be dangerous if it fell into enemy hands.

As far as effect if it hit directly, I'd imagine it takes out the wings and sensors. The fusion reactor would probably be hardened, lest Machina forces explode every time someone EMPs them.

Put another way, if we rule EMPs go through Machina shields... Miyu's going to render the Machina forces half-irrelevant in every battle from now on by turning her mech into an EMP missile delivery engine.

Unless she ends up on their team at the end of the battle, which is now suddenly a possibility, apparently. O_o.

[Flood]

@The 42nd Gecko

I imagine that the Machina would design EMPs to disable weaponry and tech that is stolen by enemy factions. I also imagine that EMP tech is very rare due to how situational it is, making it impossible for Miyu to just be a "EMP missile delivery engine". I do understand your points though, EMPs would be very OP without appropriate counters.

[The 42nd Gecko]

@floodtalon Considering that I have access to nukes, I have a very very effective way to emp an entire battlefield.

[Flood]

@The 42nd Gecko

To be fair, nukes don't cause an EMP effect. The effect results from the nuke's extreme heat moving the ionasphere which causes the EMP effect.

askamathematician.com/2011/11/q-why-do..

This is a good article on how nukes cause EMPs.

[The 42nd Gecko]

@floodtalon which is why it's stronger than directly nuking the target. No collateral damage to my force, no countermeasures because it's not aimed at you.

[Flood]

@The 42nd Gecko

Considering the ambiguous nature of the Nexus, I'm not sure it has an ionosphere though. Meaning that a nuke may not cause an EMP effect in the Nexus. Any thoughts @KoL?

[TheWendil]

@floodtalon

It wouldn't.

[KoL]

@floodtalon

There is a boatload of stuff that goes with that question, the simple answer is no, just to avoid getting into a physics discussion. Simply put the Nexus is a giant mass of chaotic matter and an energy floating outside of any known space and time and yet among them all, kinda like a family sized Schrodinger's Cat experiment made by @TheWindel an insane mind.

Going into further detail would be losing one's time.

[Lonewolf685]

Considering IRL, the modern military has hardened its tech to be resistant to EMPs, I always find it amusing to see the fictional plot device treated as the Be-All-End-All for disabling mechanical devices :3

[Mega Birb]

This is getting worse than when I introduced a micromanager of a Necromancer in Deep Ground.

Also: YOINK