[OOC] The War of the Three

[KoL]

Considering IRL, the modern military has hardened its tech to be resistant to EMPs, I always find it amusing to see the fictional plot device treated as the Be-All-End-All for disabling mechanical devices :3

@Lonewolf685

Hey, Eos was always immune to EMP. You can search her CSs around the guild and see. It's not like she would be dumb enough to build machines with such an obvious weak point. That's what I'm finding more fun here.

Magical machine disabling attacks are another whole ball game, though, since they aren't technically just EMPs, but very much probably mixed with some demonic energies to make it work against Machina.

[Flood]

Well technically the military hasn't made their equipment resistant to EMPs, they just are moving the important stuff into bunkers which are protected from EMP attacks. The best defense anyone has is Farraday Cages right now. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

[Flood]

@floodtalon

It wouldn't.

@TheWindel

@floodtalon

There is a boatload of stuff that goes with that question, the simple answer is no, just to avoid getting into a physics discussion. Simply put the Nexus is a giant mass of chaotic matter and an energy floating outside of any known space and time and yet among them all, kinda like a family sized Schrodinger's Cat experiment made by @TheWindel an insane mind.

Going into further detail would be losing one's time.

@KoL

Thank you for the answer btw, I thought that would he the case but it is nice to get confirmation.

[KoL]

Well technically the military hasn't made their equipment resistant to EMPs, they just are moving the important stuff into bunkers which are protected from EMP attacks. The best defense anyone has is Farraday Cages right now. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

@floodtalon

You are not wrong, there's no such thing as being immune to EMPs because of the fact that there's no such thing as perfect insulation or shielding. It's just a matter of increasing the charge and eventually any dielectric will give in and become a conductor.

However, modern equipment has a higher threshold against it than older ones had. Yet, let's say, if someone detonated a nuke on low orbit, they would fry a huge portion of the electronics in an appreciable area (I'm talking about half of Canada, for example), just depending on the bomb's yield.

It's still nothing compared to taking a solar flare to the face, but that's as close as we can get at the moment with current tech. Refer to this and you'll see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude_nuclear_explosion

[Lucius Cypher]

The best way to disable machines is to get something big, heavy, and smash it until either that thing you're smashing with or the machine is busted. No need for fancy technology or nuclear missiles.

[Flood]

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You are not wrong, there's no such thing as being immune to EMPs because of the fact that there's no such thing as perfect insulation or shielding. It's just a matter of increasing the charge and eventually any dielectric will give in and become a conductor.

However, modern equipment has a higher threshold against it than older ones had. Yet, let's say, if someone detonated a nuke on low orbit, they would fry a huge portion of the electronics in an appreciable area (I'm talking about half of Canada, for example), just depending on the bomb's yield.

It's still nothing compared to taking a solar flare to the face, but that's as close as we can get at the moment with current tech. Refer to this and you'll see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude_nuclear_explosion

@KoL

Yeah, it would get pretty crazy with the type of weapons we have today. That type of testing was banned in 1962 so we have no idea how much it would take out with a modern nuke.

[KoL]

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Yeah, it would get pretty crazy with the type of weapons we have today. That type of testing was banned in 1962 so we have no idea how much it would take out with a modern nuke.

@floodtalon

To say thee truth, far less than back then. Tactical nukes are "precision" weapons after all. The Nukes from back then were made to evaporate whole stretches of the countryside because aiming technology wasn't that good back them so you had to ensure that it would blast your foe even if you did a gross mistake in your targeting calculations.

Today it just needs the power to take down what it needs to take down, since GPS guided attacks can hit things with less than a meter error margin.

[KoL]

Either way, the talk is all and good, but I'm still waiting on @Lucius Cypher to post before I can do so again. Just letting y'all know.

[Mega Birb]

@The 42nd Gecko
Best post 2016

[The 42nd Gecko]

@KoL Well, if you're bored of having nowhere to post, you could always post with ol World Tree over in Shattering. :P

[KoL]

@KoL Well, if you're bored of having nowhere to post, you could always post with ol World Tree over in Shattering. :P

@The 42nd Gecko

I'm writing a post for him. It's coming a bit slow but I'm doing it nonetheless.

[Lonewolf685]

Diana = MVP For the Demonic Faction.

[KoL]

Diana = MVP For the Demonic Faction.

@Lonewolf685

Diana: "It's the dwarves fault that they built an off button that's also a self destruction device. There's no way I can know of this stuff."

Edit:

In all seriousness, stalling is the best thing she can do now, until someone else can help her deal with the infiltration, or she does so on her own by a miracle. The fact that such stalling can go horribly wrong is not her fault.

[TheWendil]

@KoL

Or this is your way of telling us that Diana is a Sleeper Agent still under Victoire's control.

[KoL]

@TheWindel

Nah, just Itsuko like tactics. She can never be too lucky, in the end. Since you know she's kind of Itsuko's expy on Wo3.

[Awesomoman64]

@KoL

Oh. You posted while I was working on one. I'll read it real quick and see if there's anything I need to change with my post

_{This is why we refresh the page before posting anything, Awesomo.}

[TheWendil]

Think we're waiting on a Graf post now.

[Lucius Cypher]

Aye. I'll work on something today, hopefully.

[Mega Birb]

@Flamelord
Why you gotta make this haaaaaaaard?

[The 42nd Gecko]

If Miyu didn't already have a concussion, and knew about it, she would again slam her head into something hard over Torag's tactics. "Did you seriously just give a ghost an armor plate.."