[OOC] Legacy - Warhammer Fantasy-inspired War NRP

[Slamurai]

Anyone want to work on some kind of northwest subplot? I'd like to post soon, but my brain's in a bit of a rut.

[Slamurai]

@RisenDeadAre Yore and Rhune on friendly terms, or do they still skirmish from time to time?

[POOHEAD189]

@AristoI wouldn't mind. I'll not post for a bit though. Need to eat and such, plus I'd like to catch up on what's been written.

[SomeChap]

I'd like to make a Tomb Kings-esque nation if possible.
Definitely interested in this.

I'd like the Desert area of the map please.

[Willy Vereb]

Anyone want to work on some kind of northwest subplot? I'd like to post soon, but my brain's in a bit of a rut.

@Aristo

Northwest is most likely where my Golden Horde is going to be coming from. It seems to be the perfect spot because I interact with elves, dwarves, humans and even more.
High Elves get to be pestered by two orc nations at once.

[Willy Vereb]

@ClocktowerEchosDamn, can you help me which map we use?
There are two different maps and with different allocation of nations in it. I can't really craft a detailed theme for my nation without at least knowing:
- What environment I'll be starting in
- What nations I'll be fighting the foremost

With at least those I can invent the rest.
For now my idea is basically this:

Golden Horde: An emerging empire from distant lands ruled by the iron grip of the Uruk (black orcs). They are mongol-like formerly nomadic nation which is now infamous for their raids and conquest. Their territory is less united and more like a collection of small countries united by their subservience to the Uruk Empire. Humans, elves, dwarves and more exotic races alike fight along with the Uruk and form the dreaded Golden Horde. As such their equipment varies though the army as a whole has a near-religious preference to gunpowder. Your average Uruk warrior is a gun-wielding warg-riding agile cavalry, often seen in raids.

[Temporary]

@Willy Vereb I believe this is the most updated version of the map, but it doesn't include the claims by Ophidian or the main entrance to the Vermintide underground.

[ClocktowerEchos]

@ClocktowerEchosDamn, can you help me which map we use?
There are two different maps and with different allocation of nations in it. I can't really craft a detailed theme for my nation without at least knowing:
- What environment I'll be starting in
- What nations I'll be fighting the foremost

With at least those I can invent the rest.
For now my idea is basically this:

Golden Horde: An emerging empire from distant lands ruled by the iron grip of the Uruk (black orcs). They are mongol-like formerly nomadic nation which is now infamous for their raids and conquest. Their territory is less united and more like a collection of small countries united by their subservience to the Uruk Empire. Humans, elves, dwarves and more exotic races alike fight along with the Uruk and form the dreaded Golden Horde. As such their equipment varies though the army as a whole has a near-religious preference to gunpowder. Your average Uruk warrior is a gun-wielding warg-riding agile cavalry, often seen in raids.

@Willy Vereb

The one in the OP is the current map, it should be sorta like an island.

My issue with the Golden Horde is the fact that it is mixed races lead by notOrks. You are going to have to give me a very damn well impressive backstory and reason as to why anyone would want to be remotely near notOrks much less fight with them. It goes without saying that in this setting Dwarves aren't too keen on Orruks and their related cousins, Elves would be too arrogant or simply don't trust them and most humans would just be to afraid to be near them when the notOrks are hungry and have a weapon in hand. Also, notOrks aren't exactly known for excellent gunsmithing skills for anything other than a giant crude shotgun in my mind.

In short, this idea has about a 90% of just not being allowed with the remaining 10% open in the case you do want to try and write something impressive up to change my mind.

[Temporary]

@ClocktowerEchos The map in the OP is outdated, because it doesn't include my claim nor the claims of some of the other people. The one on my CS and the one I posted above includes all of the claims that were put on the map (I'm pretty sure).

[Willy Vereb]

My issue with the Golden Horde is the fact that it is mixed races lead by notOrks. You are going to have to give me a very damn well impressive backstory and reason as to why anyone would want to be remotely near notOrks much less fight with them. It goes without saying that in this setting Dwarves aren't too keen on Orruks and their related cousins, Elves would be too arrogant or simply don't trust them and most humans would just be to afraid to be near them when the notOrks are hungry and have a weapon in hand. Also, notOrks aren't exactly known for excellent gunsmithing skills for anything other than a giant crude shotgun in my mind.

In short, this idea has about a 90% of just not being allowed with the remaining 10% open in the case you do want to try and write something impressive up to change my mind.

@ClocktowerEchos

roleplayerguild.com/topics/93983-fabul..
It's been already done.
I don't say all races are perfectly content with their status within the alliance but your description of any of them is terribly stereotypical, narrow-minded and well... racist (literally).
Aristo already had a rambling about not liking when races are treated as if they can be one type and nothing else.

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The one in the OP is the current map, it should be sorta like an island.

@ClocktowerEchos

BTW, what each colors mean? at least with the other map it had a name palte for each territory owned.
I would preferably want to be neighbors with a mainline human nation and preferably a number of others for sources of conflict.

[ClocktowerEchos]

<Snipped quote by ClocktowerEchos>roleplayerguild.com/topics/93983-fabul..
It's been already done.
I don't say all races are perfectly content with their status within the alliance but your description of any of them is terribly stereotypical, narrow-minded and well... racist (literally).
Aristo already had a rambling about not liking when races are treated as if they can be one type and nothing else.

@Willy Vereb

Its been done once except that was in your own NRP, not mine. Different GMs, different standards yadayadayada; just because it worked in your NRP that you ran doesn't mean that I'd be so willing to give it a shot.

None the less however, I'll let you give it a shot but again you will need to do some damn fine writing for it to impress. There better be a very diverse unit roster and very, very visible signs of disunity that you speak of. Also, I think it would be best you first ask some people who have their own races about what would be acceptable and what not, I know that Elves draw their magic from a different source than that of humans and Orruks (magic wells I think).

@ClocktowerEchos The map in the OP is outdated, because it doesn't include my claim nor the claims of some of the other people. The one on my CS and the one I posted above includes all of the claims that were put on the map (I'm pretty sure).

@Vocab

<Snipped quote by ClocktowerEchos>BTW, what each colors mean? at least with the other map it had a name palte for each territory owned.
I would preferably want to be neighbors with a mainline human nation and preferably a number of others for sources of conflict.

@Willy Vereb

I'll try to do some map fuckery soonish to try and help get things sorted out a bit more, gotta wrap up some other loose ends elsewhere first.

[POOHEAD189]

@Willy VerebWell most races in Warhammer are racist, so it's just people keeping with the theme. I'll go ahead and say my Dwarfs are definitely racist to Orruks, Elves, Beastman,....hell, everyone except a few humans.

[Willy Vereb]

Given how small patch of land is left, I'll just prefer to leave the Uruks before they formed their full Silk Road style culture.
So there'd be less helpers. Probably nomads and sand people ("barbarians") and dwarves found at the mountains who would like to hit up a good trade.

Anyways, I think the main source of confusion is probably that you judge them on what Greenskins in WHFB are.
These orcs are less of that crazy bunch and if I can say closer to Elder Scrolls interpretation of Orcs.
I am actually considering to make them a different race altogether.

[ClocktowerEchos]

Given how small patch of land is left, I'll just prefer to leave the Uruks before they formed their full Silk Road style culture.
So there'd be less helpers. Probably nomads and sand people ("barbarians") and dwarves found at the mountains who would like to hit up a good trade.

Anyways, I think the main source of confusion is probably that you judge them on what Greenskins in WHFB are.
These orcs are less of that crazy bunch and if I can say closer to Elder Scrolls interpretation of Orcs.
I am actually considering to make them a different race altogether.

@Willy Vereb

You could honestly be like the Beastmen and just say you're a nomadic horde with other hordes of your species also travelling around.

As for the ES Orcs, that might be an interesting thing to see "civilized" Orcs go up against savage Orruks.

[Willy Vereb]

Thanks to actually having a map now and with all those territory claims limiting my choices I already knew where to put my faction.
Gold territory on the bottom.
Since @SomeChap wants desert for his Tomb Kings, I didn't take much of it.

Basically there are 4 cultures.
Uruks - semi-nomads and the uniting force in the area.
Mediterran style trade cities at the parts bordering waters.
Dwarves of Sechsberge who rather chose to ally with Uruk and reap the benefits
Human/other settlements scattered through the lands.

As for the ES Orcs, that might be an interesting thing to see "civilized" Orcs go up against savage Orruks.

@ClocktowerEchos

I can't wait that to happen, either.
Uruk society is extremely organized and this feature of theirs and the fact militarily they overwhelm any of their members is partially why they can keep this land together.

[ClocktowerEchos]

@wxps350@Brithwyr Just checking to ask that both of you repost your NSs or what you have of them if you want, I was going through the thread to check for claims and found both of your NSs and didn't want you guys to be left behind.

[Slamurai]

My issue with the Golden Horde is the fact that it is mixed races lead by notOrks. You are going to have to give me a very damn well impressive backstory and reason as to why anyone would want to be remotely near notOrks much less fight with them. It goes without saying that in this setting Dwarves aren't too keen on Orruks and their related cousins, Elves would be too arrogant or simply don't trust them and most humans would just be to afraid to be near them when the notOrks are hungry and have a weapon in hand. Also, notOrks aren't exactly known for excellent gunsmithing skills for anything other than a giant crude shotgun in my mind.

In short, this idea has about a 90% of just not being allowed with the remaining 10% open in the case you do want to try and write something impressive up to change my mind.

@ClocktowerEchos

Damn, flushing the creative juices down the toilet.

[ClocktowerEchos]

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Damn, flushing the creative juices down the toilet.

@Aristo

Actually, I did end up accepting Willy's idea as an fyi, the whole multi-race faction with Elder Scroll-like Orcs. So in this case not all of the juices got thrown out the window, some is being served as a refreshment for the up coming war party

[Willy Vereb]

@ClocktowerEchosWho are the purple and orangish red bordering me?

[ClocktowerEchos]

@ClocktowerEchosWho are the purple and orangish red bordering me?

@Willy Vereb

Red is the Orruks (traditional Orks) and Purple is the Kingdom of Yore, a human faction. Both of them have completed NSs in the Char tab.