[OOC] Stardust: A Freeform Sci-Fi Fantasy NRP

[Woundwort]

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Yeah I should probably clarify: When I call people "idiotic-ass fucking piles of shit" or anything else really I generally don't mean it. If I do, you'll probably be able to tell you fuckmaggot.

@Keyguyperson

Yeah, in retrospect it's clear it was a joke. I suppose I'm just a bit on edge. I feel bit responsible for the recent drama, so I took it in the worst possible manner.

Doesn't help that I'm somewhat insecure about my lack of understanding of physics beyond the simple stuff. An insecurity that I cannot correct because I am somewhat hopeless with the subject of math...

[Keyguyperson]

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Yeah, in retrospect it's clear it was a joke. I suppose I'm just a bit on edge. I feel bit responsible for the recent drama, so I took it in the worst possible manner.

Doesn't help that I'm somewhat insecure about my lack of understanding of physics beyond the simple stuff. An insecurity that I cannot correct because I am somewhat hopeless with the subject of math...

@Ophidian

Welcome to the club. I wanted to be an aerospace engineer once, guess who's considering majoring in Pol Sci?

[Woundwort]

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Welcome to the club. I wanted to be an aerospace engineer once, guess who's considering majoring in Pol Sci?

@Keyguyperson

*highfive*

I was gonna minor in that, actually...

Public History here. Past Perfect is my bitch!

[LHG100]

@Ophidian I'm horrible at math too, but a basic understanding of Physics (at least my levels of it) doesn't really need math, you just need a specific mindset and the fact you're a huge fucking nerd who loves reading real and fictional technical documents.

[Lucidnonsense]

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Welcome to the club. I wanted to be an aerospace engineer once, guess who's considering majoring in Pol Sci?

@Keyguyperson

When I was 5 I wanted to be a robotics engineer, a bit older I wanted to be a cosmologist.

My dreams didn't come true

[Willy Vereb]

@OphidianWell, understanding concepts from physics or at least the layman explanations of them shouldn't require any math skills, rest easy.
As for vacuum energy missiles they can be your rarely used doomsday warheads. I mean with sufficient butchering of physics you can say that vacuum energy generation creates unstable exotic particles which might have effects so harmful it makes radiation fallout look like Disneyland.

As for tech how about having a "vacuum cell" in the warhead with finely controlled environment to momentarily harness this power into a massively powerful explosive device? They would be also fail-safe because it requires a specific activation and thus it won't blow up your ship upon damage or destruction.

[Woundwort]

@Ophidian I'm horrible at math too, but a basic understanding of Physics (at least my levels of it) doesn't really need math, you just need a specific mindset and the fact you're a huge fucking nerd who loves reading real and fictional technical documents.

@LHG100

*Carefully hides Colonial Marines Technical Manuel*

*And his Star Wars Essential Guides*

I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Woundwort]

@OphidianWell, understanding concepts from physics or at least the layman explanations of them shouldn't require any math skills, rest easy.
As for vacuum energy missiles they can be your rarely used doomsday warheads. I mean with sufficient butchering of physics you can say that vacuum energy generation creates unstable exotic particles which might have effects so harmful it makes radiation fallout look like Disneyland.

As for tech how about having a "vacuum cell" in the warhead with finely controlled environment to momentarily harness this power into a massively powerful explosive device? They would be also fail-safe because it requires a specific activation and thus it won't blow up your ship upon damage or destruction.

@Willy Vereb

I'm going to shamelessly steal from you too if that's alright. :p

The stuff I was stealing was more light-hearted in tone, so you saved me alot of footwork in...gussying it up, as it were:

After years of research, Soviet scientists figured out their main rocket scientist actually lied about the range of rockets. Despite kidnapping Von Braun, it never occured to the Soviets that he was anything but honest to the day Captain Rocket rescued him and his family. Soon, and despite a high mortality rate, Soviet rocket scientists were creating and testing new rockets, and then missiles, all with much greater range and speed, until they were the second to none in expertise. The Soviets still have the edge in rocketry, and the Allies are reminded of this daily.

The height of Soviet rocketry was the ICBM (Inter-City Bombarding Missile), which had the potential range of over 400 kilometres, an astonishing figure for an atmospheric flight. Though impressed by this, the Red Army noted that they had nothing to arm it with. A simple high explosive warhead would at most destroy a single building, and gas warfare was banned by the Politiburo. In typical Soviet straightforwardness, several professors of relative expertise (such as atomic chemistry and theoretical physics) were locked in a large room stocked only with books about large explosions, blackboards, and a year's supply of food and water. They were promised to only be let out once they came up with a warhead of suitable destructive power.

Months later, they had an answer. Inspired by accounts of vacuum bubbles in water mains bursting and collapsing entire city blocks, the scientists put forward that the best suggestion would not be an explosion, but an implosion. Moved from the large room to a (locked) facility with the most advanced laboratory equipment in the Union, the scientists used their notes to create a Perfect Vacuum, thought impossible by Allied scientists except between atoms in lesser vacuums. A Perfect Vacuum is, literally, the absence of anything; even in outer space, there is a thin interstellar medium in the vacuum. A test in Siberia resulted in the entire taiga, from trees to soil, sucked towards the centre of the vacuum, leaving only a large crater and a superdense core of fused material. Needless to say, the Soviets had their warhead.

For the curious.

[Lucidnonsense]

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*Carefully hides Colonial Marines Technical Manuel*

*And his Star Wars Essential Guides*

I have no idea what you're talking about.

@Ophidian

I love those books

[Keyguyperson]

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*Carefully hides Colonial Marines Technical Manuel*

*And his Star Wars Essential Guides*

I have no idea what you're talking about.

@Ophidian

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I love those books

@Lucidnonsense

Oh my God, you're making me look through my bookshelf for all my old Star Wars guides.

[Woundwort]

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I love those books

@Lucidnonsense

At this point, I'm just going to gleefully mix "boring and practical" and "soviet superscience" for the Neo-Sovs and see what I come up with.

In general, their approach to shipboard weapons and their place can be summed up as:



"Is that an MP5? It is! (Evil Laugh) Now I can solve up to 800 problems a minute!"
— Gordon Freeman, Freeman's Mind

Why yes. Those warheads are more primitive then those fielded by the Federation and the Universal Union. Perhaps even inferior to them in most aspects.

That fact is off remarkably little comfort to the folks on the other end of a barrage. And with Sovs, it's always a barrage.

[Terminal]

My own agents will have their work cut out for them, uplifting all you primitives.

[Willy Vereb]

Why yes. Those warheads are more primitive then those fielded by the Federation and the Universal Union. Perhaps even inferior to them in most aspects.

@Ophidian

Don't worry, Federation Starfleet doesn't have that many ships. Expect one or a couple of starships fighting your massive fleet. Generally the security of a system can be guaranteed by one decently equipped starship alone.
I am kinda going with TOS Star Trek's interpretation of how starships were used.
Think of star systems as countries and a starship as a nuclear aircraft carrier. One coasting close to your waters is usually scary enough.

[Woundwort]

My own agents will have their work cut out for them, uplifting all you primitives.

@Terminal

What I thought of the *second* I read this.

*The second*

[Lucidnonsense]

My own agents will have their work cut out for them, uplifting all you primitives.

@Terminal

I bet Solsys network will just assume its an ARG of somesort

[Willy Vereb]

For clarity, though. Federation don't rely too much on vacuum energy generation. It's kind of free energy but only until you add the various technical issues with it. At least for the Federation.
They rather prefer their Conversion Reactors which are basically the holy grail of nuclear power to harness energy from nearly any material in a clean, safe and efficient way.
These are safe enough you can put them in a electric toothbrush and never worry about the fact you put a nuclear reactor right next to your open mouth.

[Woundwort]

<Snipped quote by Ophidian>Don't worry, Federation Starfleet doesn't have that many ships. Expect one or a couple of starships fighting your massive fleet. Generally the security of a system can be guaranteed by one decently equipped starship alone.
I am kinda going with TOS Star Trek's interpretation of how starships were used.
Think of star systems as countries and a starship as a nuclear aircraft carrier. One coasting close to your waters is usually scary enough.

@Willy Vereb

Well in fairness. This means you have Picard.

His speeches are a weapon unto themselves.

[Willy Vereb]

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Well in fairness. This means you have Picard.

His speeches are a weapon unto themselves.

@Ophidian

No, I have Kirk. The rest of your comment also makes more sense with that.

[Lucidnonsense]

For clarity, though. Federation don't rely too much on vacuum energy generation. It's kind of free energy but only until you add the various technical issues with it. At least for the Federation.
They rather prefer their Conversion Reactors which are basically the holy grail of nuclear power to harness energy from nearly any material in a clean, safe and efficient way.
These are safe enough you can put them in a electric toothbrush and never worry about the fact you put a nuclear reactor right next to your open mouth.

@Willy Vereb

Solsys Network also uses conversion power, though at this point in time not something they could mount on a toothbrush, Im thinking the smallest generators would be the size of a large briefcase

[Woundwort]

<Snipped quote by Ophidian>No, I have Kirk. The rest of your comment also makes more sense with that.

@Willy Vereb

So deploying female commanders and soldiers is now an "I lose and I have no one to blame but myself" button. :p