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Hidden 8 yrs ago 8 yrs ago Post by Priscilla
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I'm just really, really confused at this part. What are you concerned about? If it's the invisible part, I can easily change that. If it's a worry about it being overpowered, well...

Between a Border manipulator, a Time/Space Manipulator, basically-completely-immortal girls and a human shrine Maiden who can wreck the above three I feel like the Netherworld Express should be the LEAST of your worries.


The spellcard system is meant to make sure that those five can compete on(relatively) fair grounds with even Cirno, Kingman

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The danmaku system is meant to make sure that those five can compete on(relatively) fair grounds with even Cirno, Kingman


That just adds to my confusion, not lessen it, cause I literally have no idea what they're worried about.

In a danmaku battle, Fiona would have to make the Netherworld Express visible to ram people otherwise I (think?) it's a violation of the rules (you need to give your opponent an opportunity to dodge, no matter how slim).

Also, when It's supposed to be invisible to normal humans it's basically like how ghosts are invisible to people with literally no power. Marisa is a normal human with magic and she can see ghosts just fine when some random guy off the street in the human village cannot.

Also I think it goes without saying using the Netherworld express to terrorize people would PROBABLY construe a massive violation of the danmaku rules and would get Fiona's butt handed to her by those four(five?) if not more.
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Well, trains aren't exactly masterspark levels of uber powerful. As long as we can see it coming it should be no problem, and besides that, Danmaku is about being beautiful, not necessarily effective. And trains have a certain charm to them, you know? That sort of rustic, gentle giant feel. I think I read a doujin about a train in Gensokyo once.
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Well, trains aren't exactly masterspark levels of uber powerful. As long as we can see it coming it should be no problem, and besides that, Danmaku is about being beautiful, not necessarily effective. And trains have a certain charm to them, you know? That sort of rustic, gentle giant feel. I think I read a doujin about a train in Gensokyo once.


Oooh, is it the one involving Sanae? Days woven with illusion?
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I think the major thing is just that it doesn't feel quite right for Touhou.

Again, I feel like my suggestion works pretty well if you want a train. ^^;
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Yes! I was just looking for it. I knew it had Sanae but I was having a hard time remembering the name of the author.
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Okay, I'm saying this one last time and not having any more argument on random trivialities: dullahans are not psychopomps by the word's definition. That is not, in and of itself, enough of a problem but it's not helping. The whole feel of the train doesn't fit that well--and nor does the invisibility actually make any sense, especially in Gensokyo. If a self-railing unstoppable train was going to be included within the setting, it registers itself as one of those "big incident" things that I'd rather include later rather than immediately removing any slice of life scenarios.

And finally, there is no reason to have multiple characters doing the same effective job! Especially not one so reliant on "Well, Eiki has forgotten how to find Komachi".

PS: western ideas are acceptable. But the cultural history of how various youkai came to be is completely irrelevant. <_<
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The whole feel of the train doesn't fit that well--and nor does the invisibility actually make any sense, especially in Gensokyo.


I explained above that it's only invisible like ghosts are invisible to normal people without powers in Touhou. Because the Nether Express is also literally a ghost train.

I'd put it as a problem if it WAS visible because that's not how ghosts work in Touhou.

If a self-railing unstoppable train was going to be included within the setting, it registers itself as one of those "big incident" things that I'd rather include later rather than immediately removing any slice of life scenarios.


We COULD do an incident on it I guess. it's set up for one (souls inside as normal enemies, the train itself is the stage, etc but there's also no reason why it can't enter peacefully. Myths enter Touhou all the tie.

And finally, there is no reason to have multiple characters doing the same effective job!


Fiona isn't here to do Komachi's job nor replace her in any way. Eiki asked Fiona specifically to scare komachi into thinking she was going to replace her, not actually replace her. (a strategy that actually happens IRL). Fiona's personal goal in Gensoukyou is, pretty much, being a tourist.

I should have addressed all of your fears and concerns in that, and yet if there's still a problem then I'm afraid that's that. For Fiona being too different for Touhou; this is something that can't be helped. I don't think I can modify her enough to make it "not too different".

I've put in too much work to imagine Fiona as anything else (which is why, good as the idea is @VitaVitaAR I can't take it) and I have no intention of spending my free time arguing with the GMs.

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I have no intention of spending my free time arguing with the GMs.


Then we're done.
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Whelp, I hope we haven't scared off any RP hopefuls...
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Well, as i said before it was covered up by the argument, im almost done with my CS. Im just having trouble with the backstory..
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@RolePlayerRoxas Oh right, Shujiko is accepted.

Well, as i said before it was covered up by the argument, im almost done with my CS. Im just having trouble with the backstory..


Eh... it doesn't have to be that detailed. For most youkai, you can get away with "and they just kind of live here" and some information about where precisely that "here" is. xD
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If its Reimu, just mention her line, what she does and how ruthlessly she will keep the balance of Gensokyo. I think that should be enough for the backstory part.
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AAAAARGH! Just as soon as i was gonna post the CS here my tablet decided to be an annoyance and die, deleting all my progress on it!
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I know that feeling. Its why I dont usually post long posts if its not on my comp. ;w;
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AAAAARGH! Just as soon as i was gonna post the CS here my tablet decided to be an annoyance and die, deleting all my progress on it!


Spam save buttons in a text editor. :T

I lose most of my posts to my own stupidity... xD
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Does she happen to be friends with other original characters like Meimu and Mitori? :D


Mitori exists.
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And the less said about her, the better.
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Mitori exists.


So does Meimu. The joke was that they are so horribly uninspired and (in Mitori's case at least) kind of Sue-ish. XD
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app tiem

Name: Nue Houjuu

Gender: Female.

Appearance:


Nue has short black hair and dark red eyes, three red metallic-looking wings on the right side of her back, and three blue arrow-shaped tails coming out from her left side. She carries a trident, has a snake on her right arm (which might be the Seed of Unknown Form), and also wears a black wristband on her left wrist. Her dress is all black with blue and white trim in the middle, a red bow on the front, and a small, yin-yang-like tomoe design at the bottom corner of the skirt of her dress. She wears black thigh-high stockings and red shoes with bows on them.

Also, zettai ryouiki.

Personality: Nue is a very mischievous girl who reacts badly to anyone finding her true form and enjoys some rather malicious pranks. Despite this, when she found out about how Byakuren Hijiri's followers were friendly to youkai, she did feel a bit of guilt over her actions. For her, all the other persons are young, and usually refers to them in this terms due to her nature of Ancient Youkai. After the Myouren incident, she does go to her temple to train. She isn't well-acquainted with the other youkai at the Myouren Temple, and can apparently be frequently seen near the edges of the property, looking bored.

Species: Nue. Typical example of naming your son "Man".

Ablities: Making objects unidentifiable
Nue is able to conceal the true nature of other objects, an ability she displayed in Undefined Fantastic Object to conceal the nature of the fragments of the Flying Vault. An object that has lost its "identity" will appear to be a different thing depending on who observes it. The observer's brain will then attempt to fill in the blanks itself.

Nue has made said to Reimu Hakurei "it was terrible when my true form was revealed," which indicates that her human-shaped form is her true form.

Besides these, Nue is also capable of danmaku, as with most other characters.

Skills: Pretty good at scaring people. Likely also has some basic livelihood skills.

Brief Backstory:
Nue Houjuu (封獣 ぬえ Houjuu Nue) is said to be one of the most mysterious and feared youkai in many years, yet has been defeated by humans many times. There are many differing legends according to her appearance because she hides her "true form". At some point, she was sealed underground, and because of the events of Subterranean Animism, she resurfaced back in Gensokyo.



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