[OOC] Shattered World - Mecha RP

[Raineh Daze]

I think you'd want at least Size 3 for an Eva (your given sizes make it bigger than Getter Robo). ^^;

... though I think they're normally Ultraman size. They're definitely not your basic size, though. xD

[Lmpkio]

I think you'd want at least Size 3 for an Eva (your given sizes make it bigger than Getter Robo). ^^;

... though I think they're normally Ultraman size. They're definitely not your basic size, though. xD

@Raineh Daze

Yeah I meant to upgrade it to a Size 3. But yeah Evas are pretty big.

[Menhir]

@Lmpkio
Okay, so to start with, how about we stick with one character per person since things are gonna get really silly otherwise.

Second, you've 10 points worth of stats, which is wrong. You also have 22 points of skills, which is wrong. Your stats should total to 15 and your skills should also total to 15.

You really just need a name for your Finishing Move, but sure. Also, it's not a mode but a singular action- Berserk is allowed, but it's functionally just going to be a one shot attack. All your point totals are off. Calculating it, you've got:
13 points for legs (should be 10)
17 points on arms (should be 15)
12 points on torso (should be 15)
11 points on head (should be 10)

Also, Reflect does not have ranks (it's a static effect like Burn or Aim), and you don't have to put limitations like "Berserk Mode Only" because toggles like that aren't really a thing the system does, at least not in that fashion. You also have it at Size 3 but haven't bought the Size extra, which you need for that.

Sorry, this is probably because I didn't have enough example characters. I'll build a few more based on less standard robots when I get the chance and probably add some sort of Q&A section

[Raineh Daze]

I am really glad my backup is Armageddon Ryoma (as opposed... to, y'know, some other primary source) and the Black Getter, as I disagree with that example post. xD

As much as I like Nono, arguing about Diebuster would end up taking so very much time.

... so the bio will come along once I've re-watched Armageddon to get things straight.

[Lmpkio]

@Menhir
That's mostly in the future really. Don't worry about it now.

Shite really? I tried to imitate what you had in the EX posts, just a little stronger and weaker in some places.

Uh ok... I'll see what I can do there.

Eh, like the AT-Field Shot and the eye beams have ONLY been seen in Eva-01's IA Phase so thats why I added it in. Size wise I was only basing off information about Eva-01.

Yeah, I think there needs to just be a few more prime examples. I'll try to change what you said in my CS but yeah... I just need more CSs to base it on.

Edit: I think I changed what I needed to change. I do keep the three final finishing moves (the Super Robot Taisen series have the Berserk, Dummy System, and IAP phases btw, especially the newest one).

[Menhir]

@Raineh Daze Oh no, you can feel free to run Nono, that's perfectly fine. It's just that you asked what my opinion was so I thought it'd be rude not to be honest. Also, just for reference, what do you disagree with, anyway? Like, the pilot sheet, or the mecha sheet, or what?

@Lmpkio Oh, I think I get the problem, now. If you look in the opening post, the tab labeled "The Rules"- those aren't the "be nice and have fun" rules, those are actual systemic guidelines to creating a character and combat and stuff. So I'm not really sure how to say this nicely but maybe give them a once-over?

[Raineh Daze]

@Raineh Daze Oh no, you can feel free to run Nono, that's perfectly fine. It's just that you asked what my opinion was so I thought it'd be rude not to be honest. Also, just for reference, what do you disagree with, anyway? Like, the pilot sheet, or the mecha sheet, or what?

@Menhir

More "I would be far too inclined to argue about how Diebuster is a valid sequel and, if anything, the hate should fall on the interim manga" stuff than Nono herself being a problem. She's mildly inconvenient to work out the parts for, but easy otherwise.

As for the disagreement: that's Armageddon Ryoma (at least by the image). And no skill as a mechanic? No relationship with Saotome? For shame. :P

Also, I suppose, the weirdness of having Ryoma with the full set of three robots. I'll admit, that's confusing me. Getter Robo doesn't work properly without three pilots. I'm not quite sure what's going on, there, else I'd have to weigh up Armageddon vs New Getter Robo. Hmm.

[Menhir]

Well if you're having trouble with Nono's spread the hit locations for a standard human are:
1-2 Feet
3-6 Guts
7-8 Hands
9 Brain
10 Face

[Raineh Daze]

Ah, but that would require working out... what the random parts are doing. When Nono's actual robot stuff seems to be in the legs (lasers and presumably flight), upper body (shieldy stuff), and head (mostly irrelevant robot control). Maybe some representation of ow she splits everything, but that's more of a very strange skill than a function of the mecha side.

Also, I suppose, Shine Spark seems like a weird finisher choice, especially for the start of an RP.

[Lmpkio]

@Lmpkio Oh, I think I get the problem, now. If you look in the opening post, the tab labeled "The Rules"- those aren't the "be nice and have fun" rules, those are actual systemic guidelines to creating a character and combat and stuff. So I'm not really sure how to say this nicely but maybe give them a once-over?

@Menhir

Uh? What do you mean? I didn't say the rules where too harsh? I knew what I was dealing with... roughly at least. But I never said that they were harsh?

I mean, they are very descriptive and so on, but like I said before... I did change what needed to be changed according to your guidance (I think at least, please if you see any problems give me the solution, tell me what to fix and I'll fix it right away)

[Jerkchicken]

I think you should make an example character using the best mech ever created, Gravion

[Menhir]

@Lmpkio
No, seriously, please.
Just read through the rules, they have all the numbers you need. Feel free to ask me if you have anything in said rules you are not clear on.

@Jerkchicken
I will build it but the cockpit will be in the right leg as God intended.

[Lmpkio]

@Lmpkio
No, seriously, please.
Just read through the rules, they have all the numbers you need. Feel free to ask me if you have anything in said rules you are not clear on.

@Menhir

Yes I know. That I understand. But you still aren't answering my question really.

Did the changes I implament are still incorrect on all/most fronts of what you said? Just say yes if they are and don't bother listing them if they are still all wrong.

[Menhir]

@Lmpkio
Yes.

[Jerkchicken]

PURE LIQUID HYPE

[Lmpkio]

I also realized... you said:

@Lmpkio
...you've 10 points worth of stats, which is wrong. Your stats should total to 15 and your skills should also total to 15.

@Menhir

When the rules, #2 says...

2. Stats: You have five stats which each start at 1 point, and you have ten points to distribute between them.

Contradicting no? Or am I getting things confused?

I also got rid of the rank effects of Reflect and the Berserk limitations on some of the powers, but even as I initially bumped them down or up according to your calculations, you still think of them as wrong?

You've kinda gotten me a little confused here...

[Menhir]

@Lmpkio
Yes.
They start at 1 each. You have 10 +1's to spend. Thus, you should end up with 15 points, total, of stats. Your stats are good now. Your skills still need to be fixed.

Also, yes. Your Eva's stats are all way off. The correct point totals would be:
Legs (6)
Arms (8)
Torso (10)
Head (5)
And also I'm not totally sure why you're listing Extras as if they were Qualities.

[Nanashi Ninanai]

Ah, I think I'll go with ALICE and EX-S Gundam instead. Though, since ALICE is purely an AI and I don't really want to play Ryou Roots here, is it fine if ALICE has some sort of body or a projection due to the dimensional shenanigans?

@Menhir

[Menhir]

@Nanashi Ninanai
I thought the whole point of ALICE was being incapable of turning herself on unless the pilot was in serious danger?

Well, whatever, it'll work. That being said, "dimensional shenanigans" are a little iffy because the big world-scrambling event amounted to copypasting chunks of a bunch of different versions of the earth/solar system/universe together into a vaguely coherent whole with no real changes to any of them.

I'd be fine with it if she stayed as a digital entity/hologram and just uploaded herself into the killbot or a drone chassis as appropriate, though.

[Lmpkio]

@Lmpkio
Yes.
They start at 1 each. You have 10 +1's to spend. Thus, you should end up with 15 points, total, of stats. Your stats are good now. Your skills still need to be fixed.

Also, yes. Your Eva's stats are all way off. The correct point totals would be:
Legs (6)
Arms (8)
Torso (10)
Head (5)
And also I'm not totally sure why you're listing Extras as if they were Qualities.

@Menhir

That's exactly the information I needed, thank you. Skills have been all added up to 15 so they should be good to go.

Point totaling for Eva-01 has also been corrected to your calculation suggestion.

However, I don't seem to be getting the 'listing Extras as if they were Qualities.' thing...

(God do I sound like a needy idiot at this stage...)