[OOC] Pawns in the Games of Others

[Titanic]

Will be joining

[Omega]

Sure Raptorman.

Legion I will liekly be asking you to reduce your claim, also I did a look at your military again and noticed one of the first comments was your tanks intending to be home-grown designs and this "the 25TP is capable of outstripping any other tank in service with exception to the KV series."

That means you are fielding the 2nd best tank in the world as a a nation that is maybe equivalent to Hungary at this time. You are not playing a major power, you are playing the kind of nation major nations use in proxy wars your best gear is generally not homegrown but imported from major nations. For example, i like that you are using the HE 112, a plane rejected by a major nation but you nation picked up and imported.

[Cosmic Fury]

@GemCat, there is an area on the map, in the territory that I had claimed, under the title of "DURO." Perhaps I can take that area out and we can call it a day? If there is to be a war between our factions, that is likely to be the point of contention that the Valerians will go after.

[Raptorman]

Name: Confederacy of Kretchen States

Map

Government: Theocratic Military Junta composed of High Ranking Nobility

Economy: The Kretchen states have long been known as one of the most industrialized and modern nations in the region. Under the old rule of the enlightened monarchs who guided the nation until recently industrialization was embraced and the modern world was let in freely. The Kretchen states have a strong production industry with factories and a formidable military industrial complex that can produce material on an impressive scale by comparison to many of their neighbors, though of course they pale compared to the actual great powers of the world. Large deposits of coal as well as various metals and even some oil wells have ensured that the Kretchen states are able to largely sustain their own industry and look to future growth. However the Kretchen economy is hampered by the various intrastate regulations that differ from one to another.

Population: 8.5 million

Society:

Military: 150,000 Military
Kretchen Air Forces-
The Kretchen Air Force is one of the prides of the nation, though certain elements are rapidly becoming out of date, such as the old Zeppelin fleet that is kept alive by the wishes and influence of the Grand Sky Admiral Roderick Hetzen VI. While the old man has remained blind to the steadily declining usefulness of his great Sky Fleet the entirety of the Air Force has not been so blind and the antiquated fighters and bombers are slowly being replaced with more modern models that have been developed in the recent years based on observations of the advanced fighters and bombers in use by the great powers as well as independent efforts to improve.
Airships
30 War Zeppelins
Fighters
* 25 Avia B-135s
* 100 Avia B-534s
Bombers
* 30 Aero A.304s
* 20 Aero A.100

Kretchen Armor- Kretchen Armor is also a matter of pride for the nation as they have long prided themselves on being able to match all comers with their own creations and their own pride precludes them from importing or borrowing designs from others. The primary tank is the LT vz. 35, an old workhorse model that was used to great effect in several border wars but that notably under-performed against the handful of tanks that the Socialist Rebels managed to import from foreign backers. While they are loath to admit it the newer LT vz 38s are a direct response to the failure of the tank that they had considered perfectly adequate previously. These tanks have just entered the armed forces and more orders have been placed.
* 75 LT vz. 38s
* 200 LT vz. 35s
* 15 Protinádrže vůz na LT vz. 38 'Buřiče

Kretchen Infantry-
Rifles
ZH-29s
vz. 24s

Sidearms
ČZ vz. 27s

Submachine guns
ZK-383

Machine guns
ZB vz. 26
ZB vz. 53

Kretchen Artillery-
37 mm kanon P.U.V. vz. 37
47 mm kanon P.U.V. vz. 36
Skoda 149 mm K1
M53/59 Praga

Foreign Relations:

Radom: Mutual Defense Pact

History:

[Cosmic Fury]

Alright, I took the liberty of compiling the claims so far. I'll be posting the conflicted area between my claim and GemCat's as well (which will be listed under his area as a disputed area, claimed by Valeria).

It'll be up shortly.

EDIT: And here it is! I hope that this solves all current disputes. If there's an issue with what I just put up, let me point out two things: first off, these are based ENTIRELY on existing claims, as of Raptorman's post. Second, I tried to keep these as streamlined as possible, while trying to step on as few toes as possible... so please bear with me.

EDIT#2: This is the first revision of the map. Revision #2 might be coming soon. For that, I need Theo's claim on the map.

[Omega]

Thanks Cosmic Fury

[Alfhedil]

While I appreciate Cosmic's efforts in making a compiled map, I much prefer his previous edit as it honored my claims in the original post rather than the claims Raptorman made in Skype.

My original claim

Raptor

Comsic-map 1

The following is a map he made after discussions between him and Raptorman over Skype:

Cosmic-map 2

Edit:

Honestly though, the more I think about it, people really should look at the maps each person posts up and think about where other players are, rather than just taking the map off the first post and rolling with it. Gemcat has been overlapped twice now, and it has just happened to me as well. Think before you act people =D

[Legion X51]

Omega said That means you are fielding the 2nd best tank in the world as a a nation that is maybe equivalent to Hungary at this time. You are not playing a major power, you are playing the kind of nation major nations use in proxy wars your best gear is generally not homegrown but imported from major nations. For example, i like that you are using the HE 112, a plane rejected by a major nation but you nation picked up and imported.

Correction. Poland.

Anyway, to answer your point: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/20/25TP

[ASTA]

Omega said
Sure Raptorman.Legion I will liekly be asking you to reduce your claim, also I did a look at your military again and noticed one of the first comments was your tanks intending to be home-grown designs and this "the 25TP is capable of outstripping any other tank in service with exception to the KV series."That means you are fielding the 2nd best tank in the world as a a nation that is maybe equivalent to Hungary at this time. You are not playing a major power, you are playing the kind of nation major nations use in proxy wars your best gear is generally not homegrown but imported from major nations. For example, i like that you are using the HE 112, a plane rejected by a major nation but you nation picked up and imported.

In all fairness, the KV-1 came out in 1939; any nation that is allied with this RP's USSR carbon-copy could probably be given the plans and/or exported KV-1 tanks. As Legion is playing a Poland-like nation that is most likely akin to its WWII-counterpart, I don't see why proposed tanks that were planned for production are banned from use, especially if the nation using the 25TP only has 15 of them. 15 tanks, especially when they're weaker than the KV-1, shouldn't be a serious threat in the grand scheme of things.

Anyway, interested.

[GemCat]

Cosmic Fury, you can get half of Duro (the city and everything south of it), but I don't want to cede any more.

[Omega]

Legion X51 said
Correction. Poland.Anyway, to answer your point:

I was afraid of that when I saw your flag had changed like that. Poland designed and fielded good model tanks just in few numbers. Poland is a bit higher up the food chain than I would like the nations in this RP to be. They are often written off militarily but when Germany annexed Poland they had an army nearly a million strong and almost a thousand tanks.

That is more than the UK fielded at the same time and with superior tank designs. Then after the war ended Poland quickly remilitarized back up to the 2nd largest military in Europe.

Higher end nations in this can expect to be more like Hungary than Poland you can produce some domestic models up stuff but it is not going to be higher end equipment.

Do not be afraid you will be underarmed though, at the beginning your military may not be impressive but at this time France had over 3,500 modern tanks. Without WWII kicking off and with WWI having not happened as a major conflict you can expect to be able to import equipment early on and as things move along in larger and larger numbers as the industrial bases of the major nations do not get damaged.

[Titanic]

Location

Name: United Districts of Fauulore

Government: The nation is run by a government that mainly based in the eastern Fauur District, it is located in the capital city of Fauur city. The president runs the Fauur District himself but the western districts are run by (like himself) democratically elected leaders that has less power than the president. The districts split into sub districts which are run by each by a single person elected by the public but the sub district leaders work together to address the problems of the whole district, the sub district leaders combined power is slightly below the power of the region leader. the sub districts are split into city districts that are run by mayors chosen by the region leader.

Economy: Free Market, people are able to start companies but the government watches the market closely and tax payment.

Population: The total population is believed to be 4,800,000. The Population Census is listed below

Fauur District: 3,200,000
-Fauuran Peninsula Sub District: 750,000
-Fauurian Port District: 950,000
-Fuaaran District: 1,200,000
-Old South Fauurian District: 600,000

Southern Laren District: 750,000
-Southwestern Laren Sub District: 475,000
-Southeastern Laren Sub DIstrict: 275,000

Greater Laren District: 350,000
-Lower Laren Sub District: 180,000
-New Greater Laren Sub District: 170,000

Lesser Laren District: 200,000
-Old Rean (Eastern Laren) Sub District: 75,000
-New Eastern Rean Sub District: 125,000

Society: Our society wishes to spread peace across the war and tend to try and avoid violence if possible but will defend its ally even with its small military. It believes a good government leads to a good nation. Citizens are given many rights and are educated

Military: The military branches are Laren Armed Forces, Fauuran Navy, Farun Self-Defense Forces, Fauurian Air Force.
Laren Armed Forces: At the small size of 27,000 they only get moderate training compared to other nations and are given a mix of hand down weapons from the UFS and new weapons produced by the Fauuran Region. They are a small branch mainly reserved for necessary moments of defending allies
Fauuran Navy: with only 25 ships, the navy is mainly used to transport troops to remote regions and guard those transport ships. The weaponry on the ships are poor and only 1 has recent weaponry. 22 of the ships are old models
Fauurian Air Force: only 8 aircrafts, they also only serve for the basic transport and defense of transporting troops to remote locations. Poor design with poor weaponry on most of the ships. only 1 modern aircraft
Farun Self Defense force is a mixed aerial, naval, and land force thats consist of 63,000 troops. Many are armed with hand down weapons brought from all over the world but they are getting resupplied with new weaponry from the Fauur District. They pride themselves on defending the homeland. they are trained from age 16 going through a 6 year military academy where they study and learn how to use weaponry and they know the terrain of the nation like the back of their hand. They were created after the Laren civil war.

Foreign Relations:
PSR: Trade, neutral
UFS: Trade, friendly
GWR: No trade, neutral
RF: Trade, friendly-neutral
UKW: Trade, friendly
We exploit the resources and materials in our resource rich lands but we tend to limit the trading of much of it to make it last.

History: Before The United Kingdom of Fauurlore, there was only the Kingdom of Fauru in the east and the barbarian controlled region in the west, they called themselves the Larens. The Kingdom of Fauru was a bunch of city states united under King Fauur, it wasnt for another 150 years until the Larens united themselves. By then the Kingdom of Fauru had already conquered and populated one of the few fertile areas in the Laren Region. There was peace for another 250 years before the Laren Empire started massing troops, they had always been better trained than the Fauurians at combat and were ready to invade the region of South Laren. The Invasion happened 2 weeks later, it was one of the bloodiest wars in history as nearly half the population of South Laren was killed. It ended with a peace treaty that both nations leaders agreed on but not the people, it was the unification of Fauru and Laren into Fauurlore. The Larens would provide protection for the entire nation while the Fauurians supplied them and the Laren region with food and other resources. The peace lasted for 50 years before the Fauurlore Civil War arose, the Fauurian and Laren had been unhappy with each other for 50 years and two sides had abused their powers. The violence rose to its height and war erupted, it lasted for only 3 months but it was the bloodiest war in history with thousands of Laren dying and estimated to be a nearly million Fauurians dead. The leaders of each nation and people were tried of the war and reunited, the war had stalled the nations movement forward and it had only recently start to modernize itself in the past 5 years.

[Omega]

Alright so I have a basic map here now.



If anyone is not on the map tell me though I am pretty sure I have everyone given the current near fullness.

If there are any mistakes tell me as well please. I will likely be thickening the lines when I go back to fixing it naturally. For now this is pretty much a placeholder while map stuff gets sorted out.

I believe we have 3 people who have expressed interest but do not yet have claims.

[Rare]

This is my area.

[Titanic]

theres a huge area west of comsic and no one is claiming it. :/

[Alfhedil]

Theo still has not put down his own claim, as far as I can see, so he may be claiming that area.

[Maxxorlord]

Is there room for one more?

[Titanic]

Maxxorlord said
Is there room for one more?

I think so, theres a lot of room on the map

[Theodorable]

I'd like to be west of Valeria. Varcia is a small sized nation.

[Titanic]

Theodorable said
I'd like to be west of Valeria. Varcia is a small sized nation.

You should probably show a pic of the selected area