Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

[The Harbinger of Ferocity]

That is true as well that you can further break down these concepts and examine isolated pockets of human population to find more diversity in them, especially in age-old sites as with Africa. The longer a population has had time to settle into a region, the more entrenched certain genetic qualities will be - the same you most often see with genetic identifiers that help determine "race". An excellent example would be if you have ever had a genetic survey performed and you saw how they break down what your genetics are made up of. I might be entirely European, as I am, but it further denotes everything from the haplogroup to the line of descent and where those are regionally located; some even cross the species boundary and denote likely markers of relatives early Homo sapiens interbred with.

This only becomes more complicated when you start involving the fact that most people have no idea what their lineage actually is genetically and base it solely off of observation, their own folklore, and imagination. If anything it creates more illusions of what race is when it should really be a matter of what race isn't; ignoring social and psychological biases of course, because humans are anything but simple animals to study.

I suppose the best comparison I have ever heard was a dartboard, where if the board were humanity and you were to throw darts at each block labeled a different race, you are not going to hit every identifier or quality of them that makes them "that race".

[Dolerman]

@The Harbinger of Ferocity

The dartboard analogy is good Cat-Man, and identifying race from visual cues is one of the most incorrect methods of determination, I found these two maps to illustrate this point.

How Race Realists See Genes

Notice in this 'Race Map' from the 1800s that uses the Caucasoid, Negroid and Mongoloid classification (which was basically all based on phenotypic appearance) The have sub saharan Africans and aboriginal Australians as being the same race (Negroid).

How Geneticists See Genes

And in this 1994 genetic variation map, which has yellow on one end of the spectrum, blue and purple in the middle and red on the very end. You can see that Africans and aboriginals are actually the most genetically different from each other despite being phenotypically similar. And remember this extreme difference scale actually only amounts to between 0.001 and 0.0001 of actual human genes being different.

[Polymorpheus]

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[The Harbinger of Ferocity]

"No one definition has satisfied all naturalists; yet every naturalist knows vaguely what he means when he speaks of a species. Generally the term includes the unknown element of a distinct act of creation."

Charles Darwin

The "species problem" is neither new or clever.

[Dolerman]

My Hider

[Andreyich]

Racism is prejudice or discrimination based on belief one's race is superior.

Believing in race itself isn't racist, I don't speak of a master race or anything of the sort.

Not to mention, if racism is discrimination based on race without belief one is superior, I wouldn't mind being called racist. Even if race doesn't exist and differences can just be accounted for by socio-economic and developmental conditions, discrimination would still be a dandy thing, i.e. for deciding what majority ethnicity city you want to live in, in terms of safety.

Oh, and Frokane if you're not smart enough to try and get some point across and just put two quotes from different users, don't post that post, and get the noggin to actually think something up first.

[Dolerman]

Oh, and Frokane if you're not smart enough to try and get some point across and just put two quotes from different users, don't post that post, and get the noggin to actually think something up first.

@Andreyich

Do you mean the bromance disruption post? I mean it feltbadman, I was shipping you two pretty hard up until then. But diversity of opinion is the spice of life, case in point:

Racism is prejudice or discrimination based on belief one's race is superior.

Believing in race itself isn't racist.

@Andreyich

If you believe in races, you're a racist.

@catchamber

And people wonder why I love these threads...can I get a Wew Lad?

[The Harbinger of Ferocity]

The belief in races as a concept is not inherently racist. The prejudice or discrimination, or belief in superiority of, for a particular race is defined as racism. There are other variations of this understanding, but none of them include that incarnation of it. Reasonably, as it is in reality, just because one acknowledges other races exist does not immediately make that person a racist. If you extrapolated that mindset and tried applying it elsewhere, seeing different breeds of dog would make you "breedist" against them.

[Andreyich]

Too alien for me, bye lads

[Polymorpheus]

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[Andreyich]

>PC

>Not Wii

Into the oven with you

[Polymorpheus]

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[Andreyich]

Proof catchamber is a subhuman and needs extermination like the rest of PC gaming degenerates

[Penny]

@Dynamo Frokane

Ned Stark did try to warn us.

[POOHEAD189]

All I can contibute

[Fabricant451]

"Exclusive titles" on PC good joke 10/10

[Dolerman]

"Exclusive titles" on PC good joke 10/10

@Fabricant451

[Dolerman]

Racism is prejudice or discrimination based on belief one's race is superior.

Believing in race itself isn't racist, I don't speak of a master race or anything of the sort.

Not to mention, if racism is discrimination based on race without belief one is superior, I wouldn't mind being called racist.

If I don't want brown people in Belarus it's my right.

I mean, its consistent.

[Fabricant451]

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@Dynamo Frokane

Bruh this game isn't even that good and you can run it on a toaster. PC Master Race can do better. Like even in the eroge genre.

[Dolerman]

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Bruh this game isn't even that good

@Fabricant451