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I've been following this for the last two days or so.

I'm highly interested, to say the least, but I'm struggling with picking an element.

So I'd like to propose a few sub-element ideas.

Ice? I'd assume starting out would be a slight chill around the character, and eventually building up to taking moisture from the air as stuff and freezing / unfreezing it.

My main argument is that early on the ability would only be able to freeze shallow water at best.

Would be a sub-element of Water.

If that's not alright, I'll happily come up with other options.
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I've been following this for the last two days or so.

I'm highly interested, to say the least, but I'm struggling with picking an element.

So I'd like to propose a few sub-element ideas.

Ice? I'd assume starting out would be a slight chill around the character, and eventually building up to taking moisture from the air as stuff and freezing / unfreezing it.

My main argument is that early on the ability would only be able to freeze shallow water at best.

Would be a sub-element of Water.

If that's not alright, I'll happily come up with other options.

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@Zelosse So in terms of what flora is... At least to my mind anyway, is the following;

Flora is the domain of existence which encompasses the form of matter that self-replicates and falls firmly into the plantae category of taxonomic organization. This domain also includes the fungi category, however most wielders of flora have a stronger affinity for either/or. To give an idea of the sorts of things that a Flora wielder can manipulate, picture a forest.

In this forest, there are trees, bushes, grass, perhaps. These are all things which can be classified in the domain of plantae and thus are able to be manipulated by a Flora wielder. That being said, places like forests and jungles and meadows (and caves if you specialize in fungi) are where Flora wielders are in their element. As much as a water user would love to be near a lake, or a fire user, near a well, fire, so too do Flora wielders find their strength and comfort in places teeming with plant life. So naturally, Flora wielders despise deserts, mountains, urban sprawls, and anywhere where plant-life is stifled or neglected. There are other conditions which disadvantage a plantae filled environment, such as disease, droughts, erosion, and pollution. Conversely, flora-wielders can improve their environment through gardening, agriculture, horticulture, and collaboration with users of other elements.

So of course now, we have to look at the interactions between Flora and the other elements.

Fire - You'd think that there would be zero compatibility here, but Flora recognizes the need to clear out old dead growth, and to purify the land for new planting. So there's a mutual respect, where Fire understands that Flora provides it with fuel, and Flora understands that Fire needs to be fed so as to allow for continued prosperity.

Water - Again most would say there should be an obvious affinity for water, however Flora knows that water can just as easily drown, erode, and evaporate, and remains cautious. Water on the other hand, is desperate for Flora's attentions because Flora can purify water, and filter out impurities. Flora rather bitterly, realizes that this leaves the impurities with them, and can have rough relationships with Water. Still, the two have a utilitarian relationship that has its highs and lows.

Earth - The Earth is Flora's cradle, and Flora's mother. Unlike the previous two, you would be correct in assuming that Earth users and Flora users go together like PB and J. Because of their close proximity to each other, and their reliance on each other, common is the pairing of an Earth wielder and a Flora wielder. That said, they are vehement in their desire to be seen as distinct from one another. So much so that there is a relatively well-known demonstration performed by these aforementioned couplings in which a Flora wielder will germinate a bean on a tile, and using a spurt of energy, cause the plant to bloom and grow all on its own. The bean will then wither and die over the course of a few minutes. The corresponding Earth wielder will then take a handful of soil and spread it on the dead bean. The Flora user tries to resurrect the dead bean, but to no avail. Alternatively, a sample of soil is filtered of all its nutrients and compared to a sample with nutrients provided from Flora, the difference is quite tangible. The difference between Soil, and Dirt, some say, is the covenant between Earth and Flora. The message is clear; The earth is where Flora lives, but it is not the Earth that gives Flora its essence. That is Flora and Flora's alone.

Light - Flora wielders maintain a similar relationship with Light as the one they have with Earth, albeit with much less confusion over the distinction in elements. Flora usually like having Light around so much it could be viewed as clingy, however if you had to depend on photosynthesis to survive, you might be clingy too.

Blood, Lightning, and Aetherial - Flora could care less about blood, since most everything in the domain has sap, or sugar-water, or other means of storing and transporting nutrients. Flora has a healthy respect for lightning, especially since Nitrogen producing phenomena are very beneficial to the domain of plantae. And much like all the other elements, Flora shrug at Aetherial, coming when called, but indifferent to its use.

What can a Flora wielder do?

Most anything involving plantae's natural functions and the abilities inherent, sometimes exaggerated to magical levels, or manipulated in unnatural ways. It's more beneficial to look at what a Flora wielder can't do.

What can't a Flora wielder do?

-Control any of the other elements, obviously. They can't control Earth, just the nutrient dispersion and absorption from Earth. They can't control Water, just how much of it is absorbed and released through respiration, etc. etc.

-A Flora wielder can't revive something that is dead. Nor can they use Flora magic to kill living plantae which is why Flora rely on Fire users as much as they do.

-A Flora wielder can't create new forms of plantae, only selectively breed, the old fashioned way gardeners do it.

-A Flora wielder can't manipulate plants to grow faster without taking the energy from within themselves or a willing other. If the energy is available and large enough however, they can accelerate growth exponentially and with extreme precision. This is the reason why a) Flora wielders are constantly taking in calories but never grow overweight, and b) Flora wielders tend to accrue large groups of non-Flora friends who can equally take in massive amounts of calories and never grow fat. In short, Flora Wielders are banned from Eating Contests, and are the world's most efficient personal trainers!

So there you have it! I hope this gives a better idea of what my Element idea is, and hopefully convinces you that this can really be a distinct element from Earth! After all,

Relinquo Foliorum Deorum.
I leave the leaves of gods.
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@Zelosse
Decided on a short teacher CS, if you'll have him :)

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@Aiyanna Shizuku is one of favorite anime openings of all time.
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@Stern Algorithm Have you seen 'Kemono no Souja Erin'? Not many people have, and it's a bit sad! It's such a great but unfortunately underrated series.
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@Kalleth, have you ever looked at Bionicle? It has a similar element and runs into the same problem: if you can have an element of plant, surely there can be an element of meat or animal? The implications are squicky at best. The on the elements are all inanimate objects. Plants are not, they're living beings.
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I've been lurking around here long enough, it's time to come out of the shadows. This looks like so much fun and I would love to join, I just have one question.

When an elementalist gains enough experience with their respective element, would they be able to "specialize" into something that fits under that element? For example would an earth elementalist be able to specialize into say stone or sand?
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Jesus. People keep crawling out of the woodwork. I don't think my office has enough room for everybody.
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@Lord Orgasmo

If it makes you feel better, the character I have in mind probably wouldn't even notice your office. A different kind of Zeke haha
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@Lord Orgasmo I won't add Zeke to the pile of people unless Kanako decides to go tsuntsun on him.
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@Regitnui I've been a bionicle fan a long time. Shame they ruined the series. As to the element stuff, are you talking about the Ignika? I always thought it made perfect sense in the context of the lore. They didn't have Toa of Meat or stuff like that, but they did have Toa that controlled the six elements, and then various other more obscure elements. Honestly though? Flora does come across as more of a Mask power, but I really was thinking in terms of what types of matter haven't been covered. The only other "element" type I can think up would be different kinds of energy that affect matter. But that leads to elements like Sound, Plasma, and Microwaves. Stuff on the spectrum of energy could be kind of cool I guess, but then the question becomes "Why not just make energy an element? Or, if I can harness this kind of energy, why not use this kind?"

Ultimately, I suppose it all depends on where we're coming from. Is it Aristotelian? (Air earth water fire) Is it Tamrielic? (Air Earth Fire Water Cheese) Is it Scientific? (110+ elements!!!) Is it Alchemical? (Don't even get me started.)

I just figured that Flora could be a cool element, because like I said before, we already have Blood. Blood is connective tissue, and it's controlling the cells, possibly so precisely that you could harness the separate components of the blood itself. Just seemed to me that Flora was just as reasonable. It's really up to @Zelosse and co.
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@Kalleth I see where you're coming from, but I also subscribe to MaRo's Doctrine: restrictions breed creativity. How would you differentiate yourself from someone with the same element? In Zeke's case, it's a skill with making light images. Another light elementalist may be able to make themselves shine or focus light through their eyes.

But I won't object further.
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@Lord Orgasmo LOL! Thinking now, I realise I could've taken Firiel elsewhere. Oh well. I will soon enough, don't you worry :'D
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@Stern Algorithm Have you seen 'Kemono no Souja Erin'? Not many people have, and it's a bit sad! It's such a great but unfortunately underrated series.


Yes. They set up an interesting history that revolved around an unusual relationship between two animals that came to symbolize different aspects of the ruling classes, and how forgetting the natural relationships between these animals resulted in a massive sociopolitical ordeal. A very unique world to say the least.
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@Zelosse Is she OK?


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@Zelosse Would this suffice?

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@Kalleth I respect the shit out of someone who would do some healthy research on this subject. You're in the game. Accepted. Make me proud.
For classification sake though, since any Practitioner of the Earth can encourage growth and control plantlife with a bit of practice, I ask that you state that your ability is an Earth specialization.
Thats just for my benefit when i quick review the cs in the future should the need come up.

@Regitnui the answer to that is hard to answer. Some elements cover a very wide plethora of influence and control, while others control some very simple aspects of that particulat element.

@Arya10108909@Old Amsterdam id like to see you both add just a tiny bit nore about your characters. If you really feel you cannot add anything else, I accepr your cs. At least try.
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@Zelosse Let me know if this is alright. I didn't want to go hog wild originally, until I knew if it sounded good at the base.

I'll admit I'm blanking on history, but I could probably add more detail tomorrow if you'd like.

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@Zelosse, are we doing the "create, control, absorb" level of elemental control (Bionicle) or just create and control like A:TLA? In short, can a light elementalist make light in dark places and darkness in light places?
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