[OOC] One Piece: Into the Horizon

[jynmi88]

One Piece: into the Horizon
Intro
Once there was a man named Palladium D. Platinum, Lord of the lawless. This man enjoyed notoriety, riches and supremacy beyond even the most creative mind's wildest dreams. The final words of this great man, before his head was cleaved from his body was "Everything I have is yours for the taking. You merely need to find it. All I have I leave in a single place." Thus pirates from all over the world set sail for the grand line. Thus began the golden age of pirates.

Overview
Hello and welcome to One Piece: Into the Horizon. This is a One Piece rp where our characters will take the place of starry eyed rookies, with the goal of becoming the best in the world.

The Rules and expectations
1. Follow the sites rules.
2. I reserve to the right to add or edit rules as I see fit.
3. The GM(myself), followed by any co-Gms have final say over a situation.
4. Be nice. There are always going to be disagreements in an rp, but that doesn't mean name calling or verbal abuse will be tolerated.
5. Casual standards, meaning posts should be no less than two paragraphs long and the grammar should be good enough that anyone can understand what's been said with a minimum of effort ie if a post takes somebody five rereads to figure out what's being said then it doesn't reach casual standards.
6. With the exception of Gm and/ or co-GMs everyone will be allowed a single character
7. No speed posting
8. Everyone needs to post at least once every week(seven days) If you cannot post then please get in contact with someone in charge so your character can be taken over by someone else or moved to aside until your return. Failure to post in seven days and get into contact with someone will result in your character's death. Also, I'm well aware that sometimes this is difficult because a rp is a group effort so being able to reply, due to others, will be taken into account.
9.

Restrictions on abilities

1. Devil Fruit users are allowed one fruit only, no exceptions.
2. No invincibility abilities. This means that an ability shouldn't make it impossible for an individual character to be killed by normal means ie a vital organ's destruction should still lead to death.
3. No reality warping abilities thus nothing that changes the laws of physics, probability alteration, logic manipulation, etc, etc
4. No Time manipulating abilities.
5. No power leaching. No abilities that allow a character to copy or steal the abilities of other characters.

10. with the exception of those who've already expressed interest In this, The rp is first come first serve. In the beginning there will be six spaces available, but more may open up as time goes by.
11. Optional: If possible, I would like the players of this rp to take turns leading various story arcs as it will give everyone's character a time to shine, as well as give the GM a bit more time to come up with the various areas islands and character's we'll meet on our journey. If interested in running an arc, or even if you junk think you've got an idea with possibility, pm me so we can start discussing the idea.

Character Sheet
Name:
Alias:
Appearance:
Age:
Position in crew:
Personality:
Powers/Abilities:(What's you're characters fighting style based around? Ie devil fruits, weapon use, technology, martial arts, etc, etc.) Also, keep in mind that our characters are still technically rookies, even if capable ones.
Techniques:
Background:(This can be revealed in story, but if that's the case I'd like a message explaining at least a bit about the history and how it could be revealed in story)
Other:

Accepted Characters
Ryteb pymeroce-Captain Blake D. Hunter
LokiLeo789-First Mate Bahamut 'Bartholomew' Hook
ProPro- Doctor Wutong Ken
Stern Algorithm- Navigator HHH
GloopertheWooper- Cook Ayril Ferren
LostDestiny-Sniper Annabelle "DeadEye" Pond

[Asura]

Throwing this up as a means of marking interest.

Mizushima Isuza WIP

Name: Mizushima Isuza
Alias: N/A
Appearance:

Isuza

Age: 18
Position: Shipwright
Personality: Isuza is a bashful girl, who lacks for confidence in herself and the social skills to leverage this confidence even if she did have it. Her awkward nature, in combination with her shyness, usually result in her avoiding others not out of disdain, but out of fear of their judgement. This fear is partially born of the ridicule brought on by her heritage during her younger years, a facet of herself that she is still quite sensitive about. Her lack of confidence, whist often causing her to doubt herself, does serve as a boon in some regards. It drives her ever onwards, on a constant quest for self-improvement, so that one day she may look upon herself with pride. Her friendship, as a result of her tendency to hide away from others, is hard to earn, yet once it has been earned, it is difficult to lose.

Powers/Abilities:
Being a hybrid of human and fishman origin, Isuza possesses physical strength five times greater than that of an average human, a trait doubled when underwater and further increased by years of physical conditioning. Although she lacks some of the finer finesse of the fishmen underwater, she is a powerful swimmer and can breathe underwater through a set of gills located along her shoulders. Her mouth is additionally filled with regenerating, serrated shark teeth, each of which is strong enough to tear through stone when combined with her jaw strength.

As a martial artist, she has dutifully honed her body since girlhood for the rigors of combat. Her form is toned and lithe, possessing endurance and stamina far beyond the norm and affording her a great deal of durability. Her greatest asset, however, is her speed. Isuza, like the species of shark that inhabit her bloodline, is incredibly quick, both on land and in the water. She leverages this against her opponents well, using her high speed to blitz enemies and unleash her unusual strength upon them while they're off guard.

The pride of Isuza's combat abilities is that of her Fishman Karate. Though she has only received little formal instruction in the art, she has learned through discipline and initiative several of the art's finer points. Using the water in her opponent's body, she unleashes powerful strikes that manipulate this essential substance to do immense damage to her foes in conjunction with her innate strength. She is capable of manipulating external sources of water as well, to a far more limited scope, to augment this fighting style as well, as seen with her Uchimizu technique.

Although she is far from a master, Isuza is also well versed in repairing ships and basic carpentry. She often uses her Fishman heritage to her advantage, working on seaborne vessels from below to complete upkeep and repairs without having to beach the vessel.

Techniques:

Hyakumaigawara Seiken (Literally meaning "Hundred Tile True Punch"): A hard punch that can send an opponent flying. It is claimed that this attack is so strong that it can break through one hundred tiles.

• Senmaigawara Seiken (Literally meaning "Thousand Tile True Punch"): A much stronger version of the Hyakumaigawara Seiken, this move is the "true essence of Fishman Karate". It can break through one thousand tiles, and kill a human with one shot.
• Samegawara Seiken (Literally meaning "Shark Tile True Punch"): A powerful straight punch similar to the usual seiken that transmits the force of the impact through the water in a person's body, enabling the strike to bypass a person's defenses; even those of devil fruit users.

Samehada Shotei (Literally meaning "Sharkskin Palm Block"): A simple palm block with enough force behind it to slap away a sword swing without injuring the practitioner.

Kaimen Wari (Literally meaning "Sea Surface Splitter"): Using a karate chop, the user can split the very ocean itself in order to send a shock wave to attack an enemy.

Uchimizu (Literally meaning "Water Shot"): The user hurls a simple droplet of water at their opponent, which can become a deadly bullet with the kinetic force created by their immense fishman strength.

Umidaiko (Literally meaning "Ocean Drum"): Once underwater, the user punches the water in front of them, pushing it at their opponent and sending a shockwave through it. The shockwave hits the opponent dealing great damage and leaving a pressure mark on their body.

Background: Isuza was born in the aftermath of a battle, somewhere in the Grand Line some eighteen years ago. Her mother, a fishman corsair of some renown, was wounded during a clash with the Marines and left for dead among the tides. Her father, a shipwright working on a nearby island, happened to be the man who found her washed up along the beaches the following morning. A compassionate soul, he took the mercurial fish woman back to his dwelling to nurse her back to health and, as she would learn upon awaking, to hide her from the Marines who would soon be searching the island after spotting her jolly roger tattoo.

What information Isuza has managed to squeeze from her father over the years is scarce, but as far as she knows, this act of kindness stoked the flames of romance between the two. Rather than return to the sea once she was healed, Isuza's mother took to her father's bed and some nine months later, the the hybrid shark girl was born. The romance that created her was short lived, however, as for reasons left unknown to her, the girl's parents split before her second birthday. Isuza's mother returned to the turbulent Grand Line childless and her father, now responsible for an infant, moved to the much safer East Blue to raise his daughter.

Other: Isuza is a half-fishman born to a human father and a fishman mother. Her mother's subspecies is that of a mako shark.

[Ryteb Pymeroce]

CS

Name: Blake D. Hunter

Alias: Redcoat

Appearance:

Hider

Age: 24

Position in crew: Captain

Personality: If one had to describe Hunter, it'd be the Pirate-ist of Pirates. Obsessed with treasure and adventure, sordid enemy of marines, and speaks in an accent that nearly everybody is sure is fake. Despite being a dastardly pirate, he has a sense of honour to him. He won't kill those who surrendered, and would sacrifice even the most valuable of treasures to protect his crew. A relatively naive idiot, he is willing to trust anyone who loves adventure as a member of the crew.

Powers/Abilities: Hunter ate the Gun-Gun Fruit, a paramecia type devil fruit, that allows him to fire off bursts of energy from his hands and feet.
Techniques:
Magnum Finger - Quite literal finger guns
Shotgun Kick - A regular kick that fires off an explosive blast on contact.
Gattling Palm - A singular palm strike that sends 20-30 energy blasts into an opponent during the moment of contact.
Cannonhameha - by gathering energy for a few seconds, Hunter unleashes a blast that can level a building.

Background: The grandson of one of Platinum's rivals, Bartholemew D. Hunter, better known as Black Bart, the young boy grew up hearing about his grandfather's exploits. The descriptions of the islands in the Grand Line gave him a desire to see the world for himself.
When he was 18, he set sail on his own adventure... only to end up marooned on an island for 2 years. While he was trying to stay alive, he accidentally ate a devil fruit, and gained it's powers. Soon after, he commandeered a marine ship that was passing by, and headed off on a bunch of adventures in East Blue while collecting up a crew. Finally, they had reached Loguetown, where their journey would truly begin.

Other: Hunter is Left-handed.
Incredibly poor sense of direction

[jynmi88]

@Ryteb Pymeroce

CS

Name: Blake D. Hunter

Alias: Redcoat

Appearance:

Hider

Age: 24

Position in crew: Captain

Personality: If one had to describe Hunter, it'd be the Pirate-ist of Pirates. Obsessed with treasure and adventure, sordid enemy of marines, and speaks in an accent that nearly everybody is sure is fake. Despite being a dastardly pirate, he has a sense of honour to him. He won't kill those who surrendered, and would sacrifice even the most valuable of treasures to protect his crew. A relatively naive idiot, he is willing to trust anyone who loves adventure as a member of the crew.

Powers/Abilities: Hunter ate the Gun-Gun Fruit, a paramecia type devil fruit, that allows him to fire off bursts of energy from his hands and feet.
Techniques:
Magnum Finger - Quite literal finger guns
Shotgun Kick - A regular kick that fires off an explosive blast on contact.
Gattling Palm - A singular palm strike that sends 20-30 energy blasts into an opponent during the moment of contact.
Cannonhameha - by gathering energy for a few seconds, Hunter unleashes a blast that can level a building.

Background: The grandson of one of Platinum's rivals, Bartholemew D. Hunter, better known as Black Bart, the young boy grew up hearing about his grandfather's exploits. The descriptions of the islands in the Grand Line gave him a desire to see the world for himself.
When he was 18, he set sail on his own adventure... only to end up marooned on an island for 2 years. While he was trying to stay alive, he accidentally ate a devil fruit, and gained it's powers. Soon after, he commandeered a marine ship that was passing by, and headed off on a bunch of adventures in East Blue while collecting up a crew. Finally, they had reached Loguetown, where their journey would truly begin.

Other: Hunter is Left-handed.
Incredibly poor sense of direction

@Ryteb Pymeroce

Accepted. Please put your CS in the character section :)

[LokiLeo789]

So if no one objects, I'll be creating a Gecko Logia-Type Devil Fruit user. Unsure of the position, possibly First Mate if no one else beats me to the punch.

[jynmi88]

So if no one objects, I'll be creating a Gecko Logia-Type Devil Fruit user. Unsure of the position, possibly First Mate if no one else beats me to the punch.

@LokiLeo789

Gecko logia?

[LokiLeo789]

<Snipped quote by LokiLeo789>

Gecko logia?

@jynmi88

Bad wording I suppose. It's a Logia-Type Fruit that grants its user the properties of a Gecko.

Edit: I mean Zoan. That's why it sounded so wrong.

[jynmi88]

@LokiLeo789

<Snipped quote by jynmi88>

Bad wording I suppose. It's a Logia-Type Fruit that grants its user the properties of a Gecko.

@LokiLeo789

Oh! I see. I think you meant Zoan, because those are the ones for transforming into creatures. Logia type devil fruits grant the users control over elements and the ability to transform into said element. ^_^'

[LokiLeo789]

@LokiLeo789

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Oh! I see. I think you meant Zoan, because those are the ones for transforming into creatures. Logia type devil fruits grant the users control over elements and the ability to transform into said element. ^_^'

@jynmi88

Yes, odd mistake.

[LokiLeo789]

@jynmi88

The crew, how well do they know one another? Do we start first meeting or have we already met?

Edit: I also assume Haki is banned? Since we are quite a long way from it's knowledge even being discovered by any of the crew.

[jynmi88]

@LokiLeo789

@jynmi88

The crew, how well do they know one another? Do we start first meeting or have we already met?

@LokiLeo789

The crew members have already met, but their m they're only started sailing with each other.

---edit
For now, yes, our characters do not have access to haki

[LokiLeo789]

"Black Scale" Bahamut 'Bartholomew' Hook

B A H A M U T

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".”

B A S I C I N F O

_{N A M E}

Bahamut 'Bartholomew' Hook

_{A L I A S}

Black Scale

_{A G E}

35

_{G E N D E R}

Male

_{P O S I T I O N}

First Mate

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C O M B A T I N F O

_{D E V I L F R U I T}

Toka Toka no mi: Bahamut ate the Toka Toka no mi, Model: Komodo Dragon, a Zoan-type Devil Fruit which allows him to transform into a Komodo Dragon and a giant Komodo-human hybrid. Also, being a carnivorous animal, Bahamut is more bloodthirsty and predatory than a regular Zoan class user.

_{T E C H N I Q U E S}

• Human-Beast Form: A hybrid form in which Bahamut adopts the properties and appendages of a Komodo Dragon. His physical strength and speed are vastly increased, and he also gains the poisonous properties of the animal through his sweat and saliva.

• Beast Form: Bahamut fully adopts the from and properties of a Komodo Dragon.

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R É S U M É

_{P E R S O N A L I T Y}

There are few people more torn than Bahamut Hook. At heart, he is a pirate. He was born into it, was molded by the culture of it, and spent the majority of his life under the belief that freedom was paramount and that the ultimate affronts to true liberty were the strict and oppressive codes of the Marines. Every facet of his life has shifted constantly, and although he is strong-willed, brave, and experienced, it has colored his personality in a way that may never wash out.

Bahamut's time on the seas forged him into a natural leader. He is brave, commanding, and self-sure to the point where he trusts his gut until all evidence proves him wrong. He has finely honed instincts that have served him well. Although he is no longer a pirate captain, he has retained those traits, and often butts heads with Blake D. Hunter for leadership of the crew. Although he recognizes that Blake is the rightful leader of the crew as its founder, he honestly believes himself to be the better 'captain', and makes that opinion known whenever a decision needs to be made.

That same self-assured note sometimes rings sour, however. Bahamut's belief that he has earned everything the world has to offer often leads to a sense of overconfidence that can wreak havoc on his crew. He has put operations at risk by breaking formation, skewing from set plans, and using intimidation on otherwise compliant civilians. Although his skills and surprising tactical sense are often enough to ensure that the missions are still accomplished, he has been known to cause an undue amount of collateral damage that reduces or even eliminates bystanders. In particular, his tendencies towards straightforward confrontation make him almost useless during any operation that requires stealth.

Although Bahamut has a sometimes rocky relationship with his crewmates, he is extremely loyal to them. The short time spent aboard the crew's ship with the same crew—the same friends—has instilled in him a certain level of camaraderie. Since learning of his old crew's betrayal, he now sees this crew as a replacement, and has subconsciously vowed to show them the loyalty that he once believed was shown to him. Like a group of siblings, he will often use terms like 'little brothers' or 'little sister' when referring to them, despite the fact that some may be older than him.

In battle, Bahamut falls back into his experience as a pirate captain, and his confidence and aggression come to bear. He bad-talks his opponents with crude insults, throws his weight around with an almost theatrical bravado, and treats the whole experience as if it were a way of life. He often plays the role of the aggressive protector, causing diversions or fighting the most physically skilled foe one-on-one to free up his crew to pursue other objectives. After all is said and done, Bahamut will often gloat over his defeated opponents, for the blood of a true pirate still runs thick in his veins.

_{H I S T O R Y}

The name 'Hook' is whispered across the sea by drunken fishermen and courageous pirates. It's a name only the bravest of men would dare say out loud, for the name belongs to one of the most notorious pirate crews to sail the seas; the Hallowed Hook Pirates.

Established by Ballow Hook in his early manhood, the Hallowed Hook Pirates quickly made a name for themselves carving out territory on the Grand Line. He would often butt heads with Palladium, but never would a serious rivalry develop.

After a successful career at sea, Ballow retired to his territory and produced a family. Seven children were born to him, and Bahamut was the second. Life a Hook was one of disciplined vision. In the Hook household there was a time for everything, and the Hook Children strictly adhered to this notion. Once his children were of age, Ballow once again sailed the seas, this time with the Hook Children an integral part of his crew. Each child was given there Inheritance, the first three where given Devil Fruits and the position of Division Commander, and the other four received specially forged weapons and the same position as the first three.

….

Soon, Bahamut found himself in Lougetown.

[Archmage MC]

I'll post my character tomorrow. Not feeling so good today.

[jynmi88]

@Archmage MC

I'll post my character tomorrow. Not feeling so good today.

@Archmage MC

No problem. Your spot is safe. Thanks for letting me know. Hope you feel better.

[Spike]

Posting WIP.

Name:
Alias:
Appearance:
Age:
Position in crew: Spy
Personality: Whoa he's a huge jerk
Powers/Abilities: He has a KNIFE
Techniques:
KNIFE: stabs enemies with his KNIFE
Background:(This can be revealed in story, but if that's the case I'd like a message explaining at least a bit about the history and how it could be revealed in story)
Other:

[BCTheEntity]

@LokiLeo789 Taking a look at your character, I figured I'd pop in and suggest that, since komodo dragons are a type of lizard, it might be worth calling the Devil Fruit Bahamut uses the Toka Toka no Mi, a.k.a. the Lizard-Lizard Fruit, since the Japanese word "tokage" means lizard, though obviously the Komodo Dragon is still the model. Just a thought, is all.

As for whether I intend to join this... I do have a character idea for a Logia user, but I also have a lot of RPs with levels of activity that sometimes take up a lot of focus, so I'm not convinced I could maintain sufficient activity for this one, at least for the time being. I may change my mind later on, or my circumstances may change at a later date. I'll probably keep an eye on this either way.

[jynmi88]

@Asura

Throwing this up as a means of marking interest.

Mizushima Isuza WIP

Name: Mizushima Isuza
Alias: N/A
Appearance:

Isuza

Age: 18
Position: Shipwright
Personality: Isuza is a bashful girl, who lacks for confidence in herself and the social skills to leverage this confidence even if she did have it. Her awkward nature, in combination with her shyness, usually result in her avoiding others not out of disdain, but out of fear of their judgement. This fear is partially born of the ridicule brought on by her heritage during her younger years, a facet of herself that she is still quite sensitive about. Her lack of confidence, whist often causing her to doubt herself, does serve as a boon in some regards. It drives her ever onwards, on a constant quest for self-improvement, so that one day she may look upon herself with pride. Her friendship, as a result of her tendency to hide away from others, is hard to earn, yet once it has been earned, it is difficult to lose.

Powers/Abilities:
Being a hybrid of human and fishman origin, Isuza possesses physical strength five times greater than that of an average human, a trait doubled when underwater and further increased by years of physical conditioning. Although she lacks some of the finer finesse of the fishmen underwater, she is a powerful swimmer and can breathe underwater through a set of gills located along her shoulders. Her mouth is additionally filled with regenerating, serrated shark teeth, each of which is strong enough to tear through stone when combined with her jaw strength.

As a martial artist, she has dutifully honed her body since girlhood for the rigors of combat. Her form is toned and lithe, possessing endurance and stamina far beyond the norm and affording her a great deal of durability. Her greatest asset, however, is her speed. Isuza, like the species of shark that inhabit her bloodline, is incredibly quick, both on land and in the water. She leverages this against her opponents well, using her high speed to blitz enemies and unleash her unusual strength upon them while they're off guard.

The pride of Isuza's combat abilities is that of her Fishman Karate. Though she has only received little formal instruction in the art, she has learned through discipline and initiative several of the art's finer points. Using the water in her opponent's body, she unleashes powerful strikes that manipulate this essential substance to do immense damage to her foes in conjunction with her innate strength. She is capable of manipulating external sources of water as well, to a far more limited scope, to augment this fighting style as well, as seen with her Uchimizu technique.

Although she is far from a master, Isuza is also well versed in repairing ships and basic carpentry. She often uses her Fishman heritage to her advantage, working on seaborne vessels from below to complete upkeep and repairs without having to beach the vessel.

Techniques:

Hyakumaigawara Seiken (Literally meaning "Hundred Tile True Punch"): A hard punch that can send an opponent flying. It is claimed that this attack is so strong that it can break through one hundred tiles.

• Senmaigawara Seiken (Literally meaning "Thousand Tile True Punch"): A much stronger version of the Hyakumaigawara Seiken, this move is the "true essence of Fishman Karate". It can break through one thousand tiles, and kill a human with one shot.
• Samegawara Seiken (Literally meaning "Shark Tile True Punch"): A powerful straight punch similar to the usual seiken that transmits the force of the impact through the water in a person's body, enabling the strike to bypass a person's defenses; even those of devil fruit users.

Samehada Shotei (Literally meaning "Sharkskin Palm Block"): A simple palm block with enough force behind it to slap away a sword swing without injuring the practitioner.

Kaimen Wari (Literally meaning "Sea Surface Splitter"): Using a karate chop, the user can split the very ocean itself in order to send a shock wave to attack an enemy.

Uchimizu (Literally meaning "Water Shot"): The user hurls a simple droplet of water at their opponent, which can become a deadly bullet with the kinetic force created by their immense fishman strength.

Umidaiko (Literally meaning "Ocean Drum"): Once underwater, the user punches the water in front of them, pushing it at their opponent and sending a shockwave through it. The shockwave hits the opponent dealing great damage and leaving a pressure mark on their body.

Background: Isuza was born in the aftermath of a battle, somewhere in the Grand Line some eighteen years ago. Her mother, a fishman corsair of some renown, was wounded during a clash with the Marines and left for dead among the tides. Her father, a shipwright working on a nearby island, happened to be the man who found her washed up along the beaches the following morning. A compassionate soul, he took the mercurial fish woman back to his dwelling to nurse her back to health and, as she would learn upon awaking, to hide her from the Marines who would soon be searching the island after spotting her jolly roger tattoo.

What information Isuza has managed to squeeze from her father over the years is scarce, but as far as she knows, this act of kindness stoked the flames of romance between the two. Rather than return to the sea once she was healed, Isuza's mother took to her father's bed and some nine months later, the the hybrid shark girl was born. The romance that created her was short lived, however, as for reasons left unknown to her, the girl's parents split before her second birthday. Isuza's mother returned to the turbulent Grand Line childless and her father, now responsible for an infant, moved to the much safer East Blue to raise his daughter.

Other: Isuza is a half-fishman born to a human father and a fishman mother. Her mother's subspecies is that of a mako shark.

@Asura

I noticed that the CS was filled up, but there's still a WIP in the header. Is this character sheet ready to be reviewed?

[Asura]

I'm not done her personality or background yet. Still thinking about what to add/how to wrap up her becoming a pirate.

[jynmi88]

@BCTheEntity

@LokiLeo789 Taking a look at your character, I figured I'd pop in and suggest that, since komodo dragons are a type of lizard, it might be worth calling the Devil Fruit Bahamut uses the Toka Toka no Mi, a.k.a. the Lizard-Lizard Fruit, since the Japanese word "tokage" means lizard, though obviously the Komodo Dragon is still the model. Just a thought, is all.

As for whether I intend to join this... I do have a character idea for a Logia user, but I also have a lot of RPs with levels of activity that sometimes take up a lot of focus, so I'm not convinced I could maintain sufficient activity for this one, at least for the time being. I may change my mind later on, or my circumstances may change at a later date. I'll probably keep an eye on this either way.

@BCTheEntity

Sounds good. If you don't get a shot to join soon, I could let you know when we have openings?
@Asura

I'm not done her personality or background yet. Still thinking about what to add/how to wrap up her becoming a pirate.

@Asura

Alrighty! Let me know when you're done :)

[BCTheEntity]

@jynmi88 Sure thing. Incidentally, I also have an idea for a giant character, who for the sake of story arcs would probably start with Life Return, only to acquire a Devil Fruit ability later on, possibly by accident. I might go with him instead, if I join this.