[OOC] Neon Lights

[DeadDrop]

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Considering Wernher deleted their IC post, I don't think that's necessary. It makes no sense to kill someone that, as of now, doesn't exist anymore.

@TheWindel

Their death will NOT be in vain.
I wrote it before I saw this, oh well take it with a grain of... roleplay.

It must've been the way the int check read, because like Wernher I was also under the impression we had been running for at least a bit of time. Anyway, no biggie on my end.

@vietmyke

Sorry for any confusion, let me know if there are any other problems I'll try to resolve them.

[TheWendil]

Hmm. I think I'll also be leaving this RP. Ultimately it just wasn't what I was expecting and there's already been a fair bit of confusion concerning how we're supposed to start. In any case, I wish you all luck and hope the RP goes well.

[TheWendil]

Also, no, this isn't an excuse to kill my character as well; I will be deleting my IC post too.

[Lonewolf685]

That post was in rather poor taste. I came for Cyberpunk, not a trip down to fictionalized Baltimore city. I'm out as well.

[DeadDrop]

That post was in rather poor taste. I came for Cyberpunk, not a trip down to fictionalized Baltimore city. I'm out as well.

@Lonewolf685

It's a fictionalized Seattle.

I'm also expecting the third of the circle jerk to drop so, in advance thanks for showing interest friends.

If there is anything anyone is unsure of bring it up now, I wasn't aware people had a whole different idea of established gang =/= we're just becoming a gang idea especially when I spelled it out in the Interest.

[KoL]

Yeah, I'm out as well.

Peace on your endeavors.

[Thecrash20]

@DeadDrop

Sorry, I have to drop out of this one. I kinda lost inspiration for the whole Cyberpunk thing.

[DeadDrop]

@komager
@vietmyke
@Dark Light
@FallenTrinity

If you guys want to go for a small group, we can.

Otherwise, we're gonna call it and we'll hit back to the drawing boards for a few months.

[vietmyke]

O. I guess I missed a bunch while I was writing.

Uhh, ionno, I'll do whatever. If who we still got want to keep going on then sure, if not then I guess I'll just be around.

[DeadDrop]

O. I guess I missed a bunch while I was writing.

Uhh, ionno, I'll do whatever. If who we still got want to keep going on then sure, if not then I guess I'll just be around.

@vietmyke

Yea, me and TFD realized when Lone dropped that the other two would too which sorta crippled us. Which is our fault for letting those kind of people in.

I didn't expect Crash or Werhner too but it is what it is.

If the rest stay, or we get more interests then we'll continue.

If neither happens we'll either

A: hiatus
B: Shutdown and rework

Rework as in we might scrap this campaign and make a new one in a few months (Corporate Campaign with 2050 New Age has a lot of appeal somehow). Or we might rework NL to make the gang angle more appealable, this could mean us upgrading this RP to advanced and picking from a more selected, talented group of people. We might even cut the slots back because 10 was ambitious and we ran this with four - or was it six last year?

@tfd

Incorporating the corebook and not letting people make up their own shit/weapons might have been a contributor as well, but we wanted to stay close to 2020 lore unlike other Cyberpunks of recent.

[Lonewolf685]

@DeadDrop

Really couldn't leave things with any good grace? TFD had all the bearings of a respectable RPer, but you are a dreadfully disorganized and crass GM.

Yes, we made a coordinated effort to join your RP as a group. We enjoy working with one another, it's a common enough practice. We left because this is a disjointed RP with a constant air of uncertainty because no one had a shared view of what was actually going on, and Neon City really should have been launched in the Advanced or Tabletop section, but don't take your failures out on us.

Someone drops and not 15 minutes later you write Erika off as being brained to death with a broom? How insulting to the RPer who made the character, and the zeal with which you responded makes you seem eager to enact retribution on the RPer's beneath you.

Now you chew us out for being low quality? For apping CSes you choose over others competing for similar roles? Yes, this speaks volumes more about you, Dead Drop, then I.

I'd wish you well in relaunching this, but wishful thinking won't overcome your arrogance. And next time, don't start an RP within 24 hours of the interest check, then drag your heels for over a week to kill any momentum you had going.

[DeadDrop]

@DeadDrop

Really couldn't leave things with any good grace?

@Lonewolf685

I came for Cyberpunk, not a trip down to fictionalized Baltimore city. I'm out as well.

@Lonewolf685

I don't deal with trolls, sorry you can nag another GM because that's what it seems you do. Even after "leaving" you came back to complain.

@DeadDrop

Yes, we made a coordinated effort to join your RP as a group. We enjoy working with one another, it's a common enough practice. We left because this is a disjointed RP with a constant air of uncertainty because no one had a shared view of what was actually going on, and Neon City really should have been launched in the Advanced or Tabletop section, but don't take your failures out on us.

@Lonewolf685

You killed the RP?
It's our fault for not detecting the blatant circlejerk.

No one ever brought up "are we already in a gang or starting off"

Welcome to Neon Lights, a role play that revolves around an upcoming gang starting out in one of the districts of Night City.

@DeadDrop

I mean this could have been rectified if everyone wanted to start as a gang, but you guys didn't want to neogitate with the GMs. Your loss.

@DeadDrop

Someone drops and not 15 minutes later you write Erika off as being brained to death with a broom?

@Lonewolf685

They dropped and their character is game.

You know what? I'm dropping out, no shortage of netrunners,

@Wernher

Apparently, they thought they were expendable because we had a GM netrunner.

@DeadDrop

How insulting to the RPer who made the character

@Lonewolf685

It's roleplay.

@DeadDrop

Now you chew us out for being low quality?

@Lonewolf685

Circlejerk disagrees with a non-issue and leaves.
Yes that's low quality, you also merked this RP with an organized exit.
But I guess that's my fault, so don't take it personally.

@DeadDrop

For apping CSes you choose over others competing for similar roles?

@Lonewolf685

There was only one spot contested for and it was Fixer which you won.
TFD raised the cap, we expected more people but we were given a shorter amount of people and pre-drops.

@DeadDrop

don't start an RP within 24 hours of the interest check, then drag your heels for over a week to kill any momentum you had going.

@Lonewolf685

I work 60 hour weeks, like I said I can't be here all the time like you three seem to be.

@badguy28 sends his regards.

[FallenTrinity]

@DeadDropim still interested of course! I'm off tomorrow and planning on finishing my character then. if it doesn't continue now, mention me later and ill work out a character if you decide to stick to this idea and CS. Ill be more than willing to join at a later date if you decide to cancel it now

[DeadDrop]

@DeadDropim still interested of course! I'm off tomorrow and planning on finishing my character then. if it doesn't continue now, mention me later and ill work out a character if you decide to stick to this idea and CS. Ill be more than willing to join at a later date if you decide to cancel it now

@FallenTrinity

Thanks for sticking around, sorry for all this drama.

We can write you in, if the other two are down.

We'll go over your CS, to be honest you'd be better off PMing TFD as I'm leaving in a few days sorry to say.

[FallenTrinity]

@DeadDrop
That's fine and I will.

No worries on drama. I could care less. Besides I'm still going through this tasty bit of conversation just to see what even happened. But as for TFD I will once its complete.

Edit: If I don't finish by tomorrow then do not worry I haven't lost interest. I do keep a somewhat busy schedule and it will only get busier in the next couple of weeks. So with that being said if you feel its best to scrap the idea and rewrite something along the same lines down the road I can do that as well. Up to you both on how you want to go about this since my character needs to be rewritten. ^^'

[DeadDrop]

@DeadDrop
That's fine and I will.

No worries on drama. I could care less. Besides I'm still going through this tasty bit of conversation just to see what even happened. But as for TFD I will once its complete.

Edit: If I don't finish by tomorrow then do not worry I haven't lost interest. I do keep a somewhat busy schedule and it will only get busier in the next couple of weeks. So with that being said if you feel its best to scrap the idea and rewrite something along the same lines down the road I can do that as well. Up to you both on how you want to go about this since my character needs to be rewritten. ^^'

@FallenTrinity

Yea no problem, it's up to Komag and Dark right now to see what's goin' on y'know?
About your char yea you can rewrite, or redo it's up to you. Especially since we have freed up roles now.

[FallenTrinity]

@DeadDrop

I don't think a net runner or the other position is right for what I'm going for

[DeadDrop]

@DeadDrop

I don't think a net runner or the other position is right for what I'm going for

@FallenTrinity

Yea, the option is open if you were goin' for it.
Anyway keep us posted man :)

[vietmyke]

_{Oh my.. that got a bit out of hand.}

I don't want to feed any fires, but I thought I'd voice a few of my thoughts.

hider for those who don't care for my thoughts

While I do acknowledge that the GM does have final authority on all things regarding their RP, there are ways to enforce rules without going off on people.

While I wasn't against Erika getting killed off as their player did drop, I did find the manner of death kind of tacky, and lacking in any sort of meaningfulness to make it 'roleplay'. Especially given the amount of time and effort a person puts into their character. Like, I know its cyberpunk, and life is short and gritty and people die left and right, but I'd be pretty miffed too if a character I had put hours of time and effort into building as my own cyberpunk badass went out like a little bitch. Like I get on the one hand they shouldn't care because they're out of the RP. But at the same time, that's someone's piece of work that they've put a part of themselves into and you're kinda just shitting all over that.

I don't particularly find it fair to call @Lonewolf685 and their friends a 'circlejerk' either. Friends RP with each other all the time- and I think its one of the best ways to RP. A small group RP filled with good friends is a great time IMO. I mean yeah it sucks that they left, given the issue of the confused start was rather minor, but I don't think resorting to name calling is entirely professional. Talking about others just after they leave on a public forum isn't entirely tasteful either. That kinda talk is something that should be held aside or on PMs.

I don't mean to tell you what to do as a GM, or to play devil's advocate, but as an occasional GM myself and a bit of an old-head around these parts, I thought I'd just throw my piece out there and I'm terrible at conclusions so yeah.

[DeadDrop]

While I wasn't against Erika getting killed off as their player did drop, I did find the manner of death kind of tacky, and lacking in any sort of meaningfulness to make it 'roleplay'.

@vietmyke

Yea I agree looking back on it, I'm going to retconn it and we'll work them out another way.

I don't particularly find it fair to call @Lonewolf685 and their friends a 'circlejerk' either. I mean yeah it sucks that they left, given the issue of the confused start was rather minor, but I don't think resorting to name calling is entirely professional. Talking about others just after they leave on a public forum isn't entirely tasteful either. That kinda talk is something that should be held aside or on PMs.

@vietmyke

No I agree with you, I was a bit pissed they all decided to leave after a rather small issue and it became a bigger piece of drama than it should have.