[OOC] You are the Mon

[Lucius Cypher]

Congratulations everyone, you survived the first day. In honor of this achievement you’re now level five. Before you jump the gun and start busting out sweet moves allow me to educate you about how we handle Pokémon learning attacks.

You learn new attacks largely by practice. Some things come more naturally to you than others; moves you learn via level up will generally be easier because your body feels “ready” to apply it. Though it’s also possible to learn moves that aren’t normally gained through level up with sufficient knowledge and training, the former which would be difficult considering how odd this world is for some. For example, learning TM moves essentially requires a teacher or some sort of instruction to guide you through the steps. Egg moves are possibly even more difficult to learn as you need to study with someone who knows the move and how to teach it to you.

So the short of it: learn new moves by training and eventually you’ll get it. Or via move tutor. Additionally the moves you learn may not always be in the order you’re suppose to get them via level; Trevor may learn Ember before he learns smokescreen for example. It’s all about what you put time into.

[SleepingSilence]

Trevor may learn Ember before he learns smokescreen for example. It’s all about what you put time into.

@Lucius Cypher

In an attempt to theorize and rationalize that idea, I just want to run some logic through that. The reason Charmander normally learns Smokescreen first, is because as the saying goes "Where there's smoke..." So if we were to learn by doing, I'd imagine a Charmander would try to meditate build up heat in his mouth and spew it out. Maybe by getting angry or passionate in some way. But you'd be likely to get smoke to come out, before fire...

There's plenty of other circumstances and moves I could see this apply to without that same kind of question being raised. I was just curious if just training for specific moves was the main barrier to learning them. Like, on that same note, is it possible Trevor's character who knows more about the game than the other characters might be able to game the system in a way, because he would realistically have more idea on what moves he might be able to learn. So in his specific case, maybe he very well could learn ember before smokescreen because of his more intimate knowledge of the pokemon world?

So hopefully you understand I'm not trying to be purposely meta or anything. Just trying to have a better understanding of how that might work.

Another question is in the game, we'd normally level up through attacking any wild pokemon we'd see, though obviously in this circumstance it would probably make enemies for that character quickly. Some moves seem straight forward to practice, like biting or scratching. But how about certain moves that would likely require others, or something else to practice on? Like thief, or seismic toss. Or status ones that are meant to effect the other user like Swagger or Charm? Would we simply learn by doing? Or would it actually need to be done to others, so we'd be able understand how to use said move more effectively? (Since we'd actually see the intended effects.)

Apologies for my curious mind. :P

[Lucius Cypher]

@SleepingSilence

As I said before, knowledge is an important part of trying to learn a new technique. But knowing something is possible is way different from knowing how to do it. Technically Trevor could skip Ember and try to go straight into Fire Blast. Obviously at his level it would take him forever; by the time he learns Fire Black as a charmander one of y’all is probally going to evolve. Additionally a lot of these moves serve as the building blocks to more advanced moves: ember obviously leads to various Fire breath type attacks, but smokescreen could also lead to learning useful moves like haze or smog. And while you might think smog isn’t one of Chamander’s move, it’s possible thanks to the fact he can learn smokescreen.

Another barrier to learning moves are different elemental attacks. For example, how would Lance know how to do a Slash, Night Slash, and Dragon Claw when they’re all basically just him slashing someone? Different elemental abilities but simple slashing in the air calling your attacks won’t let you learn or train that specific move. Hence the need for tutors who can explain the specific (which I’ll make up if/when it’s needed).

As for training moves themselves, frankly all of them work best if you actually use them on someone. Sure you can just go through the motions and free form practice them, but it’s not as effective as using them on an actual Pokémon. If you’re the type who wants to grow strong faster you best bet is to go after other Pokémon and fighting them. With all the risks that implies. Or finding a good teacher. With all the risks that implies.

[Zanavy]

Are we still limited to knowing four moves at a time?

[Lucius Cypher]

I’ll let you know when you guys actually learn more than four moves.

[Duthguy]

@Lucius Cypher So in Nathan's case learning growth could allow him to learn other grass type moves like absorb since seedot typically absorb moisture from trees? Also I take it sleep didn't restore the hitpoints lost to the ghostbeaver

[Lucius Cypher]

@Duthguy

It’s possible. Though instances like this is where “knowing it’s possible” is not the same as “knowing how to do it”. After all does Nathan really understand how exactly he’s absorbing neutrients from the soil? And how would he do the same to other Pokémon?

Also your health is restore, in the sense that you don’t feel so beat up anymore. There is t really any numerical measurement in which I’m keeping your health up with. For the most part so long as your injuries aren’t debilitating wounds damage is healed over time. Getting tackled enough times will knock you out and leave you dizzy when you wake up, but taking a few knocks and staying on your feet will let you shake it off after some rest. Getting hit by a critical or elemental weakness will leave much more difficult scars to heal.

[Duthguy]

@Lucius Cypher Okay, so I would probably need a tutor for moves like absorb.

[Rune_Alchemist]

I'll hopefully get to work on a post tomorrow
And then I'ma get to work on learning that Astonish move, wohoho~

[SleepingSilence]

Yeah. I'll be posting something tomorrow as well.

Edit: Didn't mean to make it so long. Just thought I had enough to add in that regard. ^-^'

[Lugia]

So... I guess Trevor hasn't made any progress in learning that move, yet... okay, fair enough.

[Lucius Cypher]

@Lugia

There’s just one slightly obscure trigger you need before you c an spot up some embers. I’ll admit it seems weird once you find out but it makes sense to me. I’ll give you a hint: you need to fuel the fire.

[Lugia]

Huh, I thought I was playing as a Charmander, not a Fennekin, lol. But yeah, I get it.

[Lucius Cypher]

@Lugia

Most charmanders have a fire on their tail to char their food, or at least a parent to help along the process. These are just strange times on top of unusual circumstances.

[Lugia]

@Lugia

Most charmanders have a fire on their tail to char their food, or at least a parent to help along the process. These are just strange times on top of unusual circumstances.

@Lucius Cypher

Wait, does that mean I'll have to keep eating twigs? Lol.

[Lucius Cypher]

@Lugia

I won’t spoul much more, tis a learning process. Hopefully you’ll find a mentor soon who’ll help you figure out stuff.

[Lugia]

Fair enough.

[Duthguy]

@Lugia Maybe try using your tail to set something on fire and act like a fire eater

[Lugia]

@Lugia Maybe try using your tail to set something on fire and act like a fire eater

@Duthguy

My character's tail doesn't have a fire.

[Duthguy]

@Lugia Oh yeah then try the next campfire