[OOC] Precipice of War - We Write Under The Sign Of The Goat

[Meiyuuhi]

Okay, so I fixed the stuff on the wiki up for Brazil to destroy all the noncanonical things. Then I saw there was a new one posted on page 45. So are we for sure using that one and scrapping the old one? If so I'll just transfer. It seems like people are still making edits to the old one. Also, that's good, I have about two months until election day.

[Wilted Rose]

IT HOT AS FUCK OUTSIDE THEN FOR THE SPANISH IN AFRIKA LANDS Also been dealing with family stuff, good news is that I actually was writing while dealing with it! Edit: Huh, that post looked a lot longer and better in my head.

[Meiyuuhi]

I daresay I speak for most of the roleplay when I say that a decent rhythm of posting is more valuable than quantity of text. *cough*hugs*cough* Though I do intend for my next post to be much larger, and to start multiple new story arcs.

[Wilted Rose]

Oh, then it seems I am most likely fucked then.

[Meiyuuhi]

Just don't be a Prospo and drop in once every thousand years to make a small post, and I'm sure you will be good.

[Dinh AaronMk]

Or in the updated context: Tempest, who is supposed to be Argentina but seems to have a more unreliable life than most.

[Wilted Rose]

Fair enough. Since I heard rumors of a wiki, I managed to find it and read a fair bit of it. Don't worry, I steered clear of the 'non-canon' pages. I also added a page myself to give people curious about my last post a bit more information.

[Space Communist]

I'M BAAAAAAAAAACK! Man, it's really been a long time since I've been here. From what I've heard, a lot's been changed; some stuff is non-canon now, and new players are in the mix. It really is unbelievable for a nearly 4-year-old forum series. For the record, I'd just like to go ahead and say that no, I'm not here to pick the reigns back up with the Russian Republic; honestly, I never really did a good job telling their story in the first place, and frankly I just can't bring myself to playing as the Somalia of the world (it's just something I'd neither enjoy nor be able to really do well at all). I would, however, like to take on a whole new story. I've had two ideas in mind: 1. Revival of an idea that another user had back on the minecraft forums, i.e. a "Balkan League" of various Marxist-Leninist states (Bulgaria, Albania, Montenegro, Macedonia, Bosnia, and possibly Greece). The original one has since become non-canon, but I feel like a new and unrelated one could be made. 2. The idea I'm more in favour of--a union of Native American tribes (i.e. Sioux, Shoshone, Blackfeet, Nez Perce, Cheyenne, Comanche, etc.) who wish to rebel against the US and transform the western coast into large-scale tribal communes. This is obviously the most tricky to make work, as newcomer Byrd Man is in control of the US and might not be entirely happy about this idea. But hey, we can always work it out OOC...right? Of course, there's always several other nations I could take control of, but honestly these two ideas just stick out to me. Again, concerning the second one, there'd always have to be some OOC communication between me and Byrd Man, and I'd have to refrain from doing anything questionable (i.e. making some US citizens "rebel" too, control enemy forces, etc.). Still, I guess the ideas are out there now. And in any case, even if it's only for a short time, it's good to be back. :) (EDIT: For the uninitiated, I was the guy who wrote up the Russian Republic under the username RevanRedeemed. Just for clarification.)

[Byrd Man]

I'll admit I'm not a fan of the Native uprising. If we went through with it, this would be the third time a portion of the US attempted to break free in the last ten years. The US is finally at a point to where it's back to mostly being the country it used to be and I would really like to keep it intact at least for a little while. Plus, just from looking at the population figures of the US in 1980 only about .06 percent of the people in the census were Native Americans. That's a lot but not enough to take a significant amount of territory and continuously keep it out of enemy hands. Granted this is alternate history we're doing and this version of 1980 is different than the one we knew, but I still don't imagine a large enough Native force could pose enough of a threat to the US to get independence.

[Meiyuuhi]

Fair enough. Since I heard rumors of a wiki, I managed to find it and read a fair bit of it. Don't worry, I steered clear of the 'non-canon' pages. I also added a page myself to give people curious about my last post a bit more information.

@Wilted Rose

It's only non-canon because Aaron has little confidence in Brazil's position as a great power *grumble grumble* We may be poor and mildly undeveloped, but goddamn it we can forge alliances halfway around the world! Mind you, there is already an Italy page but I think it's referred to a republic. I dunno if you can change the name or delete it or whatever. Revan's Native American concept is.. interesting to say the least.

[Space Communist]

Oh no, I completely understand wanting to keep the US intact, if only for some time. There's always a point at which a country grows tired of fighting, especially with themselves. Hell, we don't even need the Natives to succeed in achieving independence; it's simply their goal, one that may not actually be achieved. It would be interesting to see only a resurgence of Native resistence, as opposed to either side succeeding. Not saying you're wrong about the rather small size of the Native population, but I think there's more that should be taken into account. 1. The Natives would seek to establish communes. This would be a rather welcoming idea to leftists in the US--and with both the leftist remnants of the past wars and the rise of conservatism, the idea of a vast expanse of communes would be a welcome sight. If there wouldn't be leftists joining the group, there'd still be some amount of support. 2. International aid. No doubt some governments would be interested in a left-wing independence movement, be they for or against it. This can be game changing for both sides; say, if the Spanish aided the US in stopping the movement, or the Chinese aided the Natives. 3. Guerrilla warfare can be a powerful method--and who else to take part in it than the Native Americans? 4. The past few conflicts have exhausted the whole damn continent--though I guess it's ultimately up to you to decide your country's military power. Forgive me if I sound condescending; in all honesty, that's not my intent, and I hope that's not the effect. Again, this is just to suggest that this goes beyond population. You're most likely right, in that on their own, they may not get very far. It is for this reason that they would likely seek international aid or attempt to swell their numbers by receiving a large influx of leftist supporters across the country. The latter would, of course, be a decision entirely up to you--one which I am sure you wouldn't permit ;) I'm not gonna make a guess at the numerical size of the natives; that's another fact that'd be up to you. Assuming this faction gets allowed in at all, are there any ground rules you'd have about their existence? They are in your country, after all.

[Pepperm1nts]

I think it's safe to say your second idea isn't going to cut it. We have had too many rebellions in the US and none of them have made any sense. We need to let the US get back on its feet and become an important part of the RP. It's about time it does. That said, the Balkan League idea is a little more do-able.

[Shyri]

Totally not on topic, but I feel like I need to be more involved in the RP group, rather than just "That Britain player who posts occasionally, who sometime will talk in ooc/steam." Kinda realized I don't really talk nearly enough.

[Shiro]

Meanwhile, I will be a magical ghost who appears from time to time, leaving literary works of art. Or something like that.

[Wilted Rose]

Nothing wrong with that.

[Chapatrap]

Gotta love the little league of non-posters that's building up here. Speaking of non-posting, I should post.

[Vilageidiotx]

Native American movement.

@Space Communist

This kind of did happen in the seventies to an extent. And there were calls for independence, mostly in the fringe, but they never got that far. The native populations are way too small, and the places they hold a majority way too rural and dependent to make any serious effort. A serious Native movement with political clout large enough to sincerely threaten secession is as silly as the idea that Florida could be independent.

[null123]

Uh 3 of the countries in your Balkans league are apart of Serbia.

[Dinh AaronMk]

I'mma have to agree a Native American uprising is a pretty improbable thing to see happen. They're far too few and the times it was tried to any militant effect was too fringe. So much so the US military never really had to respond, it was all basically high-level cops. And as Duck said several of those states are in Serbian territory because I accidentally drew them in Serbia, and decided to roll with it. Though attempts at doing it from Greece would give the Serbs something to do for their favorite past time of politicide.

[Rare]

I like the Balkans League idea more. It givea Hungary something to watch it's back.