[IC] Void of the Stars: A sci-Fi Nation Roleplay

[null123]

Lakfalle
"The Pact is democratic and free. Have we forced the nations in it onto our ideology, our beliefs? And most of you haven't even contacted any of the other pact nations beyond Sazkarjhia. The Elite of our society do not benefit in the Pact, and in fact that class happens to be slowly dying. You may say that because our culture and religion spreads among the Pact Nations that that is forcing our ideology on them, but it is not, but rather natural cultural spread. We do not dominate in the same way you do, not through warring or destroying half a entire species in a civil war. The other nations accepted joining the Pact, and they do benefit. They have received a massive amount of economical power and military power. It may seem like the Pact acts in our interest, but that is merely because the nations in it support our decisions. As for Imperialism, the Collective is guilty of far much worst Imperialism. We peacefully negotiate, you conquer and war. This does not apply to all species in your little Collective, but to a few I'm sure it does. The Monarchy of the Equestrian Empire has been in place because the people want it, if they wanted a different form the Princesses would have willed it. Our Princesses hold there thrones for a different reason other then birth right, but rather because they have done great deeds for our kind." the unicorn finished his speech.

[darkwolf687]

duck55223 said
"The Pact is democratic and free. Have we forced the nations in it onto our ideology, our beliefs? And most of you haven't even contacted any of the other pact nations beyond Sazkarjhia. The Elite of our society do not benefit in the Pact, and in fact that class happens to be slowly dying. You may say that because our culture and religion spreads among the Pact Nations that that is forcing our ideology on them, but it is not, but rather natural cultural spread. We do not dominate in the same way you do, not through warring or destroying half a entire species in a civil war. The other nations accepted joining the Pact, and they do benefit. They have received a massive amount of economical power and military power. It may seem like the Pact acts in our interest, but that is merely because the nations in it support our decisions. As for Imperialism, the Collective is guilty of far much worst Imperialism. We peacefully negotiate, you conquer and war. This does not apply to all species in your little Collective, but to a few I'm sure it does. The Monarchy of the Equestrian Empire has been in place because the people want it, if they wanted a different form the Princesses would have willed it. Our Princesses hold there thrones for a different reason other then birth right, but rather because they have done great deeds for our kind." the unicorn finished his speech.

The Outsider just laughed and said "Oh well I may have sinned (!) But there's no need to push us around. Our eyes are open and you can do your worst but we see you for what you are. You say your Elite are dying. I find this hard to believe, your princesses DON'T die... make your mind up." The Outsider said, and the Umbrae Populus stepped forwards
"And little? Haha! What a laugh... you really don't know, do you? Oh I pity you. You may control more races, but half of them come from the exact same planet. Why, imagine if I counted every different genus of Aru'Shumi. And either I sense you lack the capacity to even understand what you are saying, or that's an involuntary truth. I'm sure if the people wanted a different form it would have been because your Princesses wanted them too, yes" He said, backing away to allow the Saeva Simius to step forwards
"I'd like to say a few words. I think it's undisputed by raw muscle mass my people could tear each of your Equestrian races apart, your threats don't scare me, Equestrian. I am not part of a species of finesse, that much is true, but even I can see the problems in your society. You expect me to believe your races culture spreads naturally? I know better than most it simply doesn't work like that. I am a practical Hara-Ka and I don't see it working how you say."
"Yes, recieved massive economical and military power, oh I'm sure. You mean, they've been forced to contribute their best soldiers and aren't allowed not to? How their economy has been forcibly integrated into a system with exchange rates that don't make such a thing smooth? How many economies collapsed the second you tried that? How many economies are still poor because of it today?" The Umbrae Populus said as he approached again "Military" He read aloud "'While all member nations may maintain there own militaries there shall be a Pact Military, that consists of the most prestigious soldiers, most advanced weapons, and the best ships that the nations of the Equiis Pact are capable of producing.' You plan to tear away their best soldiers for your precious pact military, in spite of any different ranking system, any cultural problems you just pluck and place simple as that. 'Economy: To help nations better cooperate on economic matters all member nations of the treaty shall maintain free trade policies towards each other. No tariffs on good or materials may be applied, and all citizens of member nations may invest there capital in other nations economies without the interference of the nation.' What about nations this doesn't fit with? What about the poorer nations who joined your pact? You expect me to believe there were none that you would classify as poor or with little industry? This doesn't even imply how you would help them. Fair enough, if they are importing to construct their industry they will recieve better quantity... but they won't be able to drag themselves out without quota's and tarrifs. You think you are helping them but forcing free trade ensures their markets will be swamped by your better produced goods, crushing their attempts at launching an emerging market. It's made to exploit them for what you would term 'Slave labour'. 'Immigration: All citizens of member nations are considering' I think this means considered, not considering 'Equiis Pact citizens, and are allowed to go live and work in other nations as they please. Member nations shall retain open border policies towards other nations in the Pact.' This is completely irrespective of all political, religious or social reasons for denying access to those immigrants. If you came to my planet and demanded that foreigners be allowed access to Ziaro, I would tell you to go gurgle poison and with good reason. Socially, it's a reminder of our cultural past, when we once celebrated our religion around that once sacred area, which would tie in religiously if we were still religious, and part of that culture is that outsiders are not allowed to access it. Politically, just you try to get access to Sector Black Four NP and the likes, the races of the Collective would tell you to hop into a black hole, yet under your treaty none would ever be allowed to do that. Your pact's treaty is flawed, even to an outsider like me with little understanding of the concepts of economy..." The Umbrae Populus tongue slipped out and licked the air before him, before moving back into his mouth as he spoke

[Keyguyperson]

Lakfakalle
The Empress smiled in a humorous way, finding the actions of the Triarians funny.
Hah! They are too blind to grasp how important seeing through the eyes of one's enemy is, they had better learn if they want to accomplish their ultimate goal.
"I wish to commend the Sazkarjhit, for being able to understand what the Empress said, few others do. However, we honestly must concur with the Collective on the Pact." Said Dmitri "The Equiis Pact does seem Equestrian-centric. Their treaty is also incredibly flawed, and do not think the Federation has ignored that. We have contingency plan after contingency plan for any relations breakdown between us and the Equiis Pact, as the saying goes, 'Better safe than sorry'. As for the ground warfare only proposition, we disagree. The law would only increase casualties, as it is much easier to get someone to surrender if you've taken out their defenses and have a way to annihilate their atmosphere." He nodded to the Empress, who then spoke.
"Since the Collective appears to only want to attack the Equiis Pact due to them being Equestrian-centric and imperialist, then perhaps we could solve the problem the Collective has pointed out instead of outright bringing down the Pact. The Pact could introduce equality laws, perhaps a renaming as well, and this could be seen by Triarian observers. The Federation would be willing to ensure fully that the reforms are in place, and prevent any violence."

[null123]

Lakfakalle
"All nations who signed the Treaty where aware of it. None of them were forced into signing it. If they did not look at what harm it could bring them, then we are not responsible. All nations thus far have supported are decisions, and have Sazkarjhia doesn't they have never made a attempt to bring it to our attention. The only reason it seems Equestrian Centric is we are the biggest nation in the Pact, and as mentioned the other nations have supported our decision. We will not introduce these laws. The Pact does not exist to please outsiders, but the nations within it. The Pact was also named the Equiis Pact because it was originally signed and negotiated on Equiis."

[TehAlphaGamer]

Lakfakalle

"We have never intervened with your decisions because we did not parlay a major role into them. We did not feel the need to interject our regime into something that was being conducted without our need. But you must keep in mind that declaring war on the Triarian Conflict will make things worse for everyone. This was the main reason we came to this meeting in the first place. You, or whoever is in charge, needs to realize that for your own nationalistic reasons, millions, potentially billions could be lost. We've seen this before. We've seen men, women and children all alike be slaughtered at the hands of rage and bloodlust. For religion, nationalism, race, it doesn't matter. Before you make a major mistake by attacking the Collective, we ask that you consider what you're doing. If you attack the Collective, you may see a whole new creature develop from underneath the haze of physical and political warfare. For the sake of your own people, for the sake of Sazkarjhia, for the sake of the entire gods' damned Pact, please think about this."

[null123]

Lakfakalle
"We were never going to declare war, it was the Triarian Collective who wanted to do so. They however are only presenting peaceful solutions in there favor, that will not stand."

[hacher5]

Lakfalle

"Then find a solution that will either be beneficial for both parties, not beneficial for both, or neutral grounded." said Ambassador Kalihary.

Before the meeting had started, a diplomat was ordered to provide gifts to the unknown creatures. He walked up to them slowly, head bowed, showing ten bars of gold and rare hach flora sealed into a delicate, beautiful pot slapped across his back. As he neared them, he placed the pot onto the ground, still holding the bars.

"Please accept these gifts of welcoming" he said. He waited til the gifts were gone before he stood upright once more.

Other diplomats/representatives handed the same gifts to the Federation races that they had never seen before as well.

[Keyguyperson]

Lakfakalle
Dmitri and the Boskop representative were shocked by the Equestrian diplomat saying that it wasn't their fault if harm came upon their member nation when they joined. They tried as best the could to hide it, but the Empress' eyes grew wide and her mouth dropped open slightly. Her hands hung limp for a moment, then began to clench unconsciously. Her brow furrowed, her teeth clenched, and she began to rise as more negative mass was transferred from storage to her boots. Eventually, she was about two feet off the ground, and if any Sazkarjhit present had seen the attack on Sazkar, it was a look that they knew all too well.
"I do hope." She said through her clenched teeth, in an obviously aggressive tone "That you were apologizing for any harm caused to your member nations when they joined, and did not just say that you don't even care about them. In our grammatical structure, when somebody says 'If they did not look at what harm it could bring them, then we are not responsible', it usually means that they only care about themselves."

With basically all the other diplomats incapacitated by anger, the Ethra'Hirel representative spoke to the Triarians, quiet enough so that only they could hear it.
"You have had more dealings with the Equestrians, is that kind of... miscommunication common? Or could they have actually meant that? Surely they didn't, or is that kind of thing accepted outside of the Federation?" Realizing how many questions he had just asked, the diplomat wuickly continued. "Sorry, but my people were isolated for thousands of years, and we have not integrated into the galactic community as well as the Boskops."

[null123]

Lakfalle
"We do care about them and will assist them if they come to harm, but they should be aware of the risks before joining, we cannot be blamed if harm comes to them."

[darkwolf687]

Lakfakalle

The Outsider tilted his head towards the Ethra'hirel before speaking "Its usually us who miscommunicate, but the Equestrians can sometimes use odd grammar constructs as my colleague made fun of earlier. I believe it is the truth myself, and I don't think he meant to leave himself open to this, he merely wanted to shift away blame... Which isn't the most admirable of traits in its self. And that varies by culture, some species don't accept it, others do." He tilted his head away and took a step towards the Equestrian, speaking before dropping back into line
"This is a group joinable through invite only, if you invite a nation you should present a treaty that is right for them. As such it is also your responsibility for the damage. After they join your body they become a part of it, does the hand fight the hand? It does not, does one part of the body remain inactive while another part is damaged? It does not, does each part of the body follow the same set of rules? Imagine if the human wrist was a hinge joint, or your mouth was a ball socket, or your shoulders were frozen in place permentantly. Some rules remain the same, yes, homeostasis and all receive blood, but parts have to be specialised at times to work. You should revise these treaties with them instead of merely shifting responsibility away if your hinge joint wrist doesn't work"

[null123]

Lakfalle
"Each Nation is bound by the same treaty, and no nation within the Pact would accept another nation within it be bound by different rules. We will not modify the treaty so it perfectly suits the needs of another nation. I also don't see how the Pact is relevant to this discussion. We will not change our ways to please outsiders, we never have. You wouldn't do that either, so why are you requesting us to? The discussion here should be about why you decided to get aggressive at us for a matter we weren't even in involved in, or are you so angry because the Aetherii considered you unworthy of ascension and instead turned to us?"

[Sukui]

Civil War
All hell breaks loose as battles in the plazas of worlds escalate into actual conflicts involving explosions, missiles, destroyed cities, huge fatality numbers and the occasional planet wreckings. Although the Makudan remains as one political entity, three factions that will possibly evolve into nations if the war is allowed to continue have arisen from the ensuing disorder: the side in favor of banishing magic within the entire universe (Nexen), the ones who conclude the report is to be doubted (Rasen), and another similar to Nexen, but only means it for the Kaiyouan species as they have the thought that the theory only applies to Kaiyouan magic and not all of such kind of energy together (Elrus).

Nexen, has spread the battle beyond Makudan borders and into Equestrian and Triarian space as conflicts expand through the vicinity of their worlds and attempt to attack the foreigners as part of their possible attempt to keep the universe to last longer. Meanwhile, the Aeternals have concluded to suggesting a peaceful resolution to show the entire Makudan populace, but fears an assassination attempt from one of the factions.

[darkwolf687]

duck55223 said
"Each Nation is bound by the same treaty, and no nation within the Pact would accept another nation within it be bound by different rules. We will not modify the treaty so it perfectly suits the needs of another nation. I also don't see how the Pact is relevant to this discussion. We will not change our ways to please outsiders, we never have. You wouldn't do that either, so why are you requesting us to? The discussion here should be about why you decided to get aggressive at us for a matter we weren't even in involved in, or are you so angry because the Aetherii considered you unworthy of ascension and instead turned to us?"

"I am here to expose an evil, xenophobic, thieving and corrupt group for what it is, and hopefully fix it instead of having to break it through war. You had to have had a hand in it, because the Aetherii are intelligent enough to know that we are more sufficient for the next stage, you would require genetic manipulation, social and mental reworking, etcetera. Back to my original point... I think your comment that you would never change part of your clearly broken treaty to suit a more fledgling nation evidence enough, your treaty benefits the elite of the Pact societies, the Equestrians and favours the rich and powerful at the expense of the poor and meek, leaving them to fend for themselves because their economy would either collapse compared with yours or is simply incompatible. I do not intend to change your pact, I wish to expose you so that no other nations will be drawn into your trap"

Makudan civil war

"We may need to offer support soon, their civil war is increasingly problematic..."
"Indeed, we may need to try and quarantine it soon to prevent it spilling out"
"Give them some time, they may be able to sort it quickly"
"Let us hope so"

[WilsonTurner]

Lakfakalle
At this point, the Supremes were huddled in a semi-circle, with an opening towards the Collective and Equis Pact diplomats who were bickering. While there appeared to be no real sound or movement, if one watched the Supremes long enough, they would become aware that they were, in a way, bending reality around them to disguise their laughter. The Spider and Draconian guards had moved to stand right around the semicircle, and they too were laughing, though the reality-bending disguised them as well. After some time of watching and laughing at their bickering, they all sobered up and dropped their facade, and one stepped forward to the AIF President, suddenly the same height as Dmitri. Asking softly, "Are they always like this?" the Supreme took a few small steps towards the two opposing sides.

[darkwolf687]

Lakfakalle

The Outsider paused, as if noticing something, before turning his head slowly towards the Supremes then back to the Equestrian and freezing in place for a few moments, before finally speaking "I tire of this. And some parting words, whether you like it or not, the numbers are on our side. We will bury you" The Outsider said, before vanishing as the crystal fell to the floor before it too disappeared in a flash, along with the Collective diplomats

[TehAlphaGamer]

Lakfakalle

While the other races were quarreling, Barasmus and Fakeem took to standing back to discuss the matter. After some time, they returned to the discussion, both visibly upset.

"We have decided that Sazkarjhia will cease to provide more than a few units at a time, and recall all mechs from the Pact Military. What the other nations state is true. If the Equiis Pact is going to center mostly around the Equestrian Empire, then so will its military. We will also recall any Sazkarjhia-owned technology such as the Mark I Gravity Well, and provide little military support in the event of an intergalactic crisis until the Equiis Pact gives more power and is more involved to meet other members' standards."

[null123]

Lakfalle
"The Pact does not just center around the Equestrian Empire. We let the other empires vote and decide on decisions. You have never made any attempt to say you didn't like our decisions or submit new proposals. We will revise the delegate system and the proposal system and we will remove the condition that bans tariff, but that is all we will go far. It seems the Triarian Collective has decided to go to war. We request assistance from the AIF, and we have several deals to purpose to the Supremes. I think you shall find them interesting."
Preparations
All Equestrian forces have been mobilized, outer worlds have been evaced and emergency homes are being deployed. The various Pact Nations have also moved there militarizes in, and the full force of the Pact Military is prepared. The DM Corps, or those have been augmented with Dark Energy are deployed to strategic locations, and shall be a big surprise to the Triarians.

[darkwolf687]

[Error, location beyond clearance level]

"The Equestrians have mobilised forces, it appears they want a war"
"Was the warning insufficient? Which part of 'We will bury you' is beyond their intellectual capacity?"
"Apparently all of it. I've opened up a channel to our friends in the outer galaxies and alerted the Equitem defence grids. We're ready to engage the Winter contingency"
"I see. Ensure the Vault is contained"
"Ensured"
"Alert all fleets, get me an invasion force prepared. We will decapitate the beast and cauterize the wound."
"Sir, there is more. The Oculatus, Psionic section, has sent us this report." There is a pause of nearly a minute
"This could work in our favour, ensure everything is ready, and ensure we are ready to send messages to the Makudan, Sazkarjhit, AIF, Hach and all the races of the Equiis pact. Prepare 'Truth and Reconciliation' It appears we have done something dreadful."
"Yes praelatus meus"

[Keyguyperson]

Lakfakalle
Dmitri chuckled a bit, and turned to the Supreme.
"Oh, all the time. It's so common that half of our comedy programs are based entirely off intergalactic politics and how nobody ever agrees. Admiral McClain says its almost as bad as 21st century Terra, may we never forget that world. Its not pretty, but its reality, and the Federation can't do anything to change it."

The Empress spoke, still floating above the ground.
"You will get no help from the Abh Empire, and I doubt the Human Cooperative will help either. The Boskops and Dolphins will follow the humans, and the Ethra'Hirel the Boskops. The Federation will almost certainly not provide any assistance to the Equiis Pact in this war, in fact, the Abh Empire may provide indirect support to the Triarian Collective after what has been brought to our attention! My personal conclusion is that you have finally degraded like so many good societies in Terragen past. The Soviet Union and its fall to tyrrany, America and its degeneration into a dystopia with government observation blimps above every city, even Canada fell to a dictatorial government. It is sad, you were so pure, so noble once. What has become of you? What has become of the noble Equestrians the humans spoke of when the first Abh emerged from the artificial wombs? Where is the peace and the harmony?"

Makudan Civil War
The Federation has announced that they oppose Nexen, for obvious reasons. However, they do not know enough about the other two factions to make a judgement on who to support, if anyone at all. To remedy this, they have sent an identical message to both Elrus and Rasen.
"Please state your goals and beliefs, you could gain the support of the Allied Interstellar Federation if they are compatible with ours. Be warned that this comes with much risk, do not respond if you believe that it would harm you to do so."

[TehAlphaGamer]

Outside of Triarian Space

Most of the Assault Fleets warped back to Sazkarjhit space, but a small stealth observation fleet comprised of a few Samani-Class stealth corvettes and Pulsar-Class electronic warfare vessels moved in to track any Equestrian activity to compile military reports for the Peoples' Military.