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I need to do a post, but I am lazy and there is so much I need to wrap up.
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I have to deal with stuff also from another RP i've just joined recently; my time may be split between this and said roleplay.
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>"slowed down the Forbidden, and teleported it far away"
>implying the Forbidden hasn't been destroyed yet
>implying
>imblyign
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Wait
Was it destroyed?
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duck55223 said
WaitWas it destroyed?


Actually, yes.
Read back for information.
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I now feel like the Seeders are much too small. I'm limited to a hundred thousand, and you have millions of planets, with probably 10 ships for every planet. And I talked to Rogue; he didn't really care because I asked.

Name of nation: The Universal Supremacy

Species: The "Supremes," compromised of creatures that inhabit the form of a different species somewhere else, depending on whichever nation has the most power in terms of military, diplomatic, political, economical, and numbers strength. The Supremes number lowly, being the smallest nation in the 'verse, but are very powerful, practically each and every one of them demigods in their own power, though they are all centered around a physical manifestation that must stay manifested. They are the creators of the Draconians, among hundreds of others. Being very powerful 'psions,' with psionics, they have abilities focused in different fields, based on the form they inhabit. Only races that are considered the most powerful gain a generation of Supremes based off of them, regardless of whether or not the Supremes even know of them.
Supreme Draconians have very powerful pyrokinetic abilities [Fire]
Supreme Humans have very powerful telekinetic abilities [Force]
Supreme Triarii have very powerful telepathic abilities [Mind]
Supreme Ugarians have very powerful electrokinetic abilities [Electricity]
Supreme Equestrians have very powerful hydrokinetic abilities [Water/Steam/Mist]
Supreme Ylfrish have very powerful aerokinetic abilities [Air]
Supreme Hyllian have very powerful empathic abilities [Emotion]
The Supremes themselves are shapeshifters, though they inhabit a 4-armed 2-legged creature that are proficient in all fields.

Description of government: Hierarchy. The smartest rule: the dumbest are grunts. Though the grunts are still extraordinary smart.

Description of military: Small. Larger than the Seeders' fleet, and much more powerful. While not numbering as much as any nation, even in their early space-faring years, their ships are both massive and small. Corvettes and giant cruisers are more of the Supreme's cup of tea, with corvettes that have agility equal to the best fighters, and firepower to take down capital ships in pairs.

History: The Supremes began an insane amount of time before anything but matter. They were one of the first species to evolve from matter, to organic, to sentient. And so with these sentient creatures first coming into being, at least in this era, omnipresent beings also began to come into existence. Thousands of years later, the 'First Wave,' as the US called themselves and the kind like them [which the newborn gods gave them the power to communicate to the other firstborn nations in the beginning 'verses]. They grew on a planet almost exactly like Earth, except more mineral-rich and with more landmass, with a smaller variety of creatures.

From this planet, they created the first of most everything: weapons, tools, electronics. They were among the first to ever use tools in the universe, at least in this version of it [Since there may be times when all universes collide, demolish, and reform to basic forms], and among the first to reach space. They expanded, but their slow reproducing process led them not to false reproduction, but rather extension of lifespan through genetic and mechanical intervention to the point that the species eventually became immortal, in terms of disease and age. They found their ability to use their minds to full capacity, and each are powerful 'psions,' having extraordinary abilities, focused in different fields, as seen above.

When they reached space, and began exploring [since space was very, very much higher priority that it is on real-time Earth], they began growing, though very slowly. Soon, it became obvious that expansion and reproduction was not working very well. So, almost the entire race moved to being permanently in-space. They became nomads, stopping in orbit of planets to construct more ships and resupply. They have an entire universe mapped out, and thousands of galaxies explored, and a single teleport could get them whatever they need. Their communications use relays spread across billions of lightyears of uninhabited space, each one armed to the point of being trouble for any ship non-Supreme ship that comes near. They grew only in territory, their fleet expanding with their population.

Some galaxies that were inhabited were crushed, and taken for their own occasional mining grounds, while others were never made aware that they might possibly be a small island in the sea of Supreme territory. In many places, the Supremes manufactured unique creatures to protect their own territory, to make it seem inhabited by someone. 3 of these races grew out of control: Urgarians, Seeders, and Draconians. All three grew to greatness, only to have their core ripped out and collapse into many different sections. The Draconians and the Seeders still remain, due to factions still existing outside of the Universal Supreme's control.

And then, millions and billions of years later, they move into the Milky Way Galaxy, secretly, of course, interested in their former slave-race's progress, and their targets.
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Duck, is it all right if I organize a fleet refueling by one of your planets? I want to use it so I can also get a synopsis of what happened in the peace talks based on reports.
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It be alright as long you RP it out
Also your supremes are denied. They break the Unspoken No more project Genesis tech rule and are OP even without that, you also do not have permission from anyone to use there races, and I certainly won't.
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I agree with Duck, the Supremes are OP. While the idea is quite good, that does not make up for the insane power. I would rather you continue with the Seeders. Also, at some point you may want to make them realize that the only way to survive.is to conduct diplomacy, obviously low level.at first.

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Genesis tech?
If that's the universe-making-exploring thing, then nope.

Also, might I ask how they're insanely overpowered?

And Seeders are more animal in thought and nature, with just more intelligence and understanding. A dog wouldn't befriend the cat after years of fighting. Either one will win, or one will lose. If they fail, they run and wait to attack another time.

And I don't see how a small fleet of ships is insanely overpowered, when a single opponent could literally drown the entire fleet with dozens of ships each. Was there not a major problem with the first roleplay because everyone's fleets were getting too large? The Draconians were the largest, and they didn't even have a million planets, and yet here you all are, with millions and millions of planets.
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Fleet and planet size was not a issue, it was more or so the tech. Also I don't mean they can create universes, but I'm saying there tech is around that level, which we are forbading because it caused problems in the original.

Also you said they control 1000s of galaxies. The Equestrians are in over 100, but most contain a few colonies at most. Complete control of 1000s is way to much territory.

Also each indivual is a Demi-God? No, that mean they could take down entire armies on there own, it is also stupid that you went and copied races of other players for generations of supremes, which you can't do without there permission. Also the Equestrians aren't one race, they are the group of raves there originate from Equiis.

The Supremes could be a good idea but not in there current state. Nothing should go beyond the power of the Big Three, the Supremes could have been of the power you described but have been weakened to the point where they are not like that anymore. Revise the app a bit and we will see if it's mor reasonable.
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Keyguy, wasn't the plan to have half the Boskops want to go off with the Equestrians and the Pact?
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- They claim empty, uninhabited space, which they have practically nothing to do with due to lack of manpower and will.
- They are demigods in that they are more powerful than individuals, not a slightly lesser being to an actual god or goddess
- They don't have the technology to create universes, they just travel between them, and take whatever's unclaimed or easy to steal away.
- I am seeing why Rogue gets extremely aggravated with your grammar/spelling. I could give you some tips if you want to better your grammar and keep grammar-Nazis away
- And saying that no one else can be as powerful as 3 of some of the older players is kind of unfair.
- The Supremes are not more powerful than the 'Big Three,' since they are very much smaller and could be drowned in your sea of unrealistically large fleets.
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Travel between universes is banned to, unless its the FTL thing where you drop into one to get to another part of your own faster, but its not allowed to go and claim resources from them.
And it is possible to be as powerful as the BIg Three, but just not more powerful. They represent the limit on how powerful a nation can become.

As for my grammar I am working on it, but a few of that tends to be writing quirks. I really dislike the English language because it has a lot of unnecessary grammar rules, so I tend to develop my own way of doing things.
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How is going in and out of another universe supposed to be easier, not harder, than just going to? I'm confused.

And they aren't really claiming resources. They all travel in just one fleet, or in half a dozen smaller fleets, and grab resources from whatever planet happens to be closest. They go where they feel like stuff could happen, so with all the crap in MWG, they'd be going there. They wouldn't even go to another galaxy unless they were retreating or became bored, which would equal them leaving the roleplay.

It's kinda like in a game, where you're a sergeant or a commander, with the entire faction supporting you, but you don't get any of it except some starter stuff and a place to get resources from. Why take the time to go back an insane distance, if they just surround a planet, mine it out and do whatever they need to, and then keep going? If there is a disease that wipes out an entire ship, it'll either be refitted, refilled, or scrapped.

And again, they aren't that powerful. Humans could take on enemies that the Supremes never could. The Supremes just have tech that even it out a bit. Not in terms of weapons: they are more peaceful, staying out of the way, but their torpedoes and ship cannons do devastating damage, but other than that, they're mainly utility. The Seeders' genetic engineering by way of thought and process, really good mining, that kind of thing. More likely just to slip away, than to shoot. And they're about as brave as a coyote. Only way to get them to fight on their own terms is to corner them.

They really aren't that powerful. Just a bunch of science kids who stay out of the way, who are armed with last-minute tasers.
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I though you meant they jumped into other universes then mined them, sorry bout dat.

Also my other universe FTL is more of just jumping into a higher plane in the current universe, where distances in the higher plane are shorter then long distances in the regular universe. If you have seen MC's nether portal system then you probably know what I mean.

I guess I could accept your app, but remove the other generations of Supremes based on other player's races for now. I guess I will give you permission to use mines, and Keyguy probably doesn't give two shits that the humans have a Supreme Generation. Also, Supreme Equestrians don't have magic what so ever, they can have there psionic ability thingies, but magic is linked to a soul, not something the Supremes could replicate.
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They are psionic, not magic, I assure you of that.

How about, if they get DNA, or good enough scans, then a generation would be made of them.

So:

Supreme Draconians, Urgarians, Hyllians, and Ylfrish. Those are known to them.

And no, they just explore universes, they have not the time or the strength to mine them. They just mine what they need when they need it, from the closest richest source.
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I'm going to say no to the exploring universes thing but I will wait for Keyguy's verdict. Also you only make generations of races with the player's explicit permission, otherwise people are going to get a bit pissy at you for copying there shit.

Also I don't see them creating generations based off any of the other races besides the Equestrians, the Humans, and the Triarians, since the others wouldn't be considering powerful enough.
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Draconians were far more powerful, and the Ylfrish were as well. The Hyllian and the Urgarians are just races that the Supremes either made and lost control, or found and watched their collapse.

And the Equestrians aren't close enough to be that powerful. They are several races, which means that the power would be split up amongst them, and would result in the power being too low for each race in the Equestrians for them to really be considered that powerful.
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If your talking about in terms of the Pact, the Equestrians have massive amounts of power compared to other pact races, and a lot more resources. It was more expanding there influence and gaining a new set of races and abilities.

If your talking in terms of the Equestrians not really, the reason i don't mention the other races that much was because the Ponies and Griffons were the only two races which held significance in the Equestrian Empire. The hold majority power in the Equestrian Empire.
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