[OOC] Blood Compact, Revamped(Yay bad puns!)

[DiZL ReloadeD]

Dont forget lambda thou :D

[Wraithblade6]

Oh great. I was really hoping for a bail, wizard.

[Shikaru]

I wonder how it would pan out if Magnus met Jack. Lol.

[DiZL ReloadeD]

He probably wouldnt be able to lay a finger on him
1. Lambda
2. Some of Millers closest and best soldiers are protecting him
atleast thats what I think :D

[Wraithblade6]

I bet Jack is one guy Magnus would love to take out, given that Jack comes up with all the anti-vampire weapons. I wonder if Jack would be working with any of SOLDIER's vampire members... or am I the only one?

[Shikaru]

They'd have to either:
1. Pull off a headsho with a hollow-point bullet.
or 2. Cut his head off or etc..

[DiZL ReloadeD]

Shikaru said
They'd have to either:1. Pull off a headsho with a hollow-point bullet.or 2. Cut his head off or etc..

Good point sir.

[akje]

Back from vacation, as soon as wizardguy posts I'm back in.
Meanwhile I just read what I missed. Cool!

Just wondering one thing. Why the focus on platinum and tungsten steel blades? Those are terrible! That shit would snap on an old school long sword from the 14th century.
The ceramic broadsword was a questionable idea (there was a good reason Martin took the blade from that tree carefully, didn't want to shatter the pretty thing.), but Tungsten steel?

@Wraithblade6, you described the blade vibrating and singing as it was hit with a bullet? That's realistic for high-carbon industrial grade steel sure. but a tungsten steel blade would shatter in a loud bang, sending shrapnel in all directions spectacularly. A pure titanium weapon would snap off I think. Titanium would work, but you'll have a weapon of less quality than a regular 14th century long-sword. It's about the same use as an aluminum blade, only it weighs more than a steel one. I'd suggest quallity steel still. Maybe laminated? If you insist on using titanium I could imagine maybe a tepostopili-like serrated blade? The idea of having a Metallic glass (a type of steel, not made of glass) core with a long row of titanium or ceramic triangular tips attached with some wiggle room speaks to me. You'd get one hell of a sawblade that would be extremely difficult to sunder and cut run trough pretty much any armor on the market today. Especially since most modern armor is specialized at stopping ballistics, not cutting blades. They might as well wear cloth. The big downside is that you'd have to replace the tips pretty often, it'd be expensive, and heavy like hell, but that doesn't matter much to a vampire. Note: I just made this design up on the fly, there is currently no research on tepostopili-like blades since it's silly as all hell.

looks like i went on a rant again. oh well. tl;dr:
Why search for unicorns to eat, when the field is full of Angus beef?

[akje]

On an unrelated note: Lists of powers and weaknesses
Where do we stand on this list?

PS: I lol'd hard at Count chocula. Only know weakness "get's soggy in milk"

[Wraithblade6]

lol Back on the metal are we? Since none of us are experts, this would all be purely entertainment and an indulgence of our nerdiness.

I'm gonna go with the bullet had to impact the blade at the right angle to ping off it and not shatter it. I agree that Tungsten would most likely shatter. It is also heavy. Mithias has some kinda titanium alloy. Now an "alloy" can be a mix of whatever, so I'll just say it's optimized for its purpose, obviously.

And swords sing if they vibrate, I think any metal does.

As for the ancient longsword/katana/etc., idk about those. I know the Samurai folded their metal like hundreds of times to line up all the molecules and stuff. Maybe the strength is from the working and not from the material?

[Wraithblade6]

wow. That's a lot of vampire movies.

[akje]

Wraithblade6 said
lol Back on the metal are we? Since none of us are experts, this would all be purely entertainment and an indulgence of our nerdiness. I'm gonna go with the bullet had to impact the blade at the right angle to ping off it and not shatter it. I agree that Tungsten would most likely shatter. It is also heavy. Mithias has some kinda titanium alloy. Now an "alloy" can be a mix of whatever, so I'll just say it's optimized for its purpose, obviously. And swords sing if they vibrate, I think any metal does. As for the ancient longsword/katana/etc., idk about those. I know the Samurai folded their metal like hundreds of times to line up all the molecules and stuff. Maybe the strength is from the working and not from the material?

yeah, i also indulge, especially in OOC since martin couldn't care less. the folding thing is correct yeah. katana's were pretty crappy compared to western swords on account of them being made of low quallity steel (there wasn't good grade stuff to be found in japan). but the folding made up for it. using the folding techinque with modern grade steel makes some pretty sweet stuff.

you know, if you want some really good stuff look up Damascus steel. the really good stuff came out of the middle east.

[thewizardguy]

Wraithblade6 said
Oh great. I was really hoping for a bail, wizard.

A ball?
*Throws a ball at you*

[thewizardguy]

Shikaru said
They'd have to either:1. Pull off a headsho with a hollow-point bullet.or 2. Cut his head off or etc..

Jack lives in a moving fortress. It is filled with soldiers, and has multiple anti-tank firing stations. He'd get hit by heavy weapons-fire, and there wouldn't be enough left to call it a corpse. They'd have to bury him in a matchbox.

[akje]

thewizardguy said
Jack lives in a moving fortress. It is filled with soldiers, and has multiple anti-tank firing stations. He'd get hit by heavy weapons-fire, and there wouldn't be enough left to call it a corpse. They'd have to bury him in a matchbox.

[thewizardguy]

akje said
Back from vacation, as soon as wizardguy posts I'm back in.Meanwhile I just read what I missed. Cool!Just wondering one thing. Why the focus on platinum and tungsten steel blades? Those are terrible! That shit would snap on an old school long sword from the 14th century.The ceramic broadsword was a questionable idea (there was a good reason Martin took the blade from that tree carefully, didn't want to shatter the pretty thing.), but Tungsten steel?@Wraithblade6, you described the blade vibrating and singing as it was hit with a bullet? That's realistic for high-carbon industrial grade steel sure. but a tungsten steel blade would shatter in a loud bang, sending shrapnel in all directions spectacularly. A pure titanium weapon would snap off I think. Titanium would work, but you'll have a weapon of less quality than a regular 14th century long-sword. It's about the same use as an aluminum blade, only it weighs more than a steel one. I'd suggest quallity steel still. Maybe laminated? If you insist on using titanium I could imagine maybe a tepostopili-like serrated blade? The idea of having a Metallic glass (a type of steel, not made of glass) core with a long row of titanium or ceramic triangular tips attached with some wiggle room speaks to me. You'd get one hell of a sawblade that would be extremely difficult to sunder and cut run trough pretty much any armor on the market today. Especially since most modern armor is specialized at stopping ballistics, not cutting blades. They might as well wear cloth. The big downside is that you'd have to replace the tips pretty often, it'd be expensive, and heavy like hell, but that doesn't matter much to a vampire. Note: I just made this design up on the fly, there is currently no research on tepostopili-like blades since it's silly as all hell.looks like i went on a rant again. oh well. tl;dr:Why search for unicorns to eat, when the field is full of Angus beef?

Ah, you seem to be confusing Excalibur with a pure ceramic weapon. An understandable mistake.
Making a weapon from a ceramic material such as glass or clay is stupid, due to the fact that the material is very hard, but doesn't bend. It would take the full force of any impact, and shatter. However, with modern techniques, we can create nanotube materials. This means that within the material tiny tubes of air, smaller than the eye can see, are made. The round shape allows it to bend slightly, and acts as a shock absorber, while also making the material lighter and retaining the hardness. As such you get a weapon that's at least as durable as steel, light as cardboard, and sharper than a doctor's scalpel. It's ridiculously expensive, though.
I put real thought into my weapons and their practical application, but if you see any errors in them, such as the stupidity of making a sword from non-nanotube ceramics, please point them out. I pride myself on realism and retention of the laws of physics.

[thewizardguy]

akje said

Yes. Very much so.

[thewizardguy]

akje said
yeah, i also indulge, especially in OOC since martin couldn't care less. the folding thing is correct yeah. katana's were pretty crappy compared to western swords on account of them being made of low quallity steel (there wasn't good grade stuff to be found in japan). but the folding made up for it. using the folding techinque with modern grade steel makes some pretty sweet stuff.you know, if you want some really good stuff look up Damascus steel. the really good stuff came out of the middle east.

I am a samurai nerd, so the mention of katanas makes me happy. The only reason Johnathan didn't have one is because of the Crusader theme, and it would be silly for a crusader to be carrying around an Azian weapon.

[DiZL ReloadeD]

haha dat orc xD

[akje]

thewizardguy said
Ah, you seem to be confusing Excalibur with a pure ceramic weapon. An understandable mistake.Making a weapon from a ceramic material such as glass or clay is stupid, due to the fact that the material is very hard, but doesn't bend. It would take the full force of any impact, and shatter. However, with modern techniques, we can create nanotube materials. This means that within the material tiny tubes of air, smaller than the eye can see, are made. The round shape allows it to bend slightly, and acts as a shock absorber, while also making the material lighter and retaining the hardness. As such you get a weapon that's at least as durable as steel, light as cardboard, and sharper than a doctor's scalpel. It's ridiculously expensive, though.I put real thought into my weapons and their practical application, but if you see any errors in them, such as the stupidity of making a sword from non-nanotube ceramics, please point them out. I pride myself on realism and retention of the laws of physics.

I did not know that was possible. I the only ceramic blades I knew of were no larger than kitchen knives and needed to be handled with care. That would make no sense. I figured "Well he's an extremely experienced combatant so he can compensate for it's brittleness by being carefull with it." But this explanation is much better.

That reminds me.
How does the stake work anyways? does it matter that the stake never makes contact with the heart of the vamp your staking with it? What makes a stake effective anyways? why wouldn't a regular lead pipe work when lodged into the heart?