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Damn, i was thinking into bringing Jotaro. Do note that it's still day and Dio Can die in the day. Also, why didn't you bring him with his Stand? Waaay much better.


I see no reason why you cannot bring in Jotaro, the Dio in the 18th century and the one 100 years later are like two different people. I hear at that point, he just calls himself "DIO" and discards the Brando last name. Also, I won't being playing as him during that time period until I get to Stardust Crusaders. I'm a new JoJo fan that got interested by the Anime, I finished Phantom Blood and started Battle Tendency just last night. Joesph is radically different from Jonathan, I'll say that. I have no idea if you've even heard of it before, but I first learned of JJBA through a freeware "game" called MUGEN.
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Alright! Yukiteru and Yuno let's see how this plays out.
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I see no reason why you cannot bring in Jotaro, the Dio in the 18th century and the one 100 years later are like two different people. I hear at that point, he just calls himself "DIO" and discards the Brando last name. Also, I won't being playing as him during that time period until I get to Stardust Crusaders. I'm a new JoJo fan that got interested by the Anime, I finished Phantom Blood and started Battle Tendency just last night. Joesph is radically different from Jonathan, I'll say that. I have no idea if you've even heard of it before, but I first learned of JJBA through a freeware "game" called MUGEN.


I know about Jojo more than you think
AND MUGEN IS MY FAVORITE GAME!
So um.... https://www.youtube.com/user/TheFaelduarte enjoy
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I know about Jojo more than you think AND MUGEN IS MY FAVORITE GAME!So um.... https://www.youtube.com/user/TheFaelduarte enjoy


Well, holy friggin shits. You know, it's funny how when you have an interest in something, and people you meet in other interests have the same interests as you. It's a small world after all. Well, here goes. Fael, it's me Decade. Yeah, THAT Decade from MFFA. Well, this is awkward as hell, huh?
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Well, holy friggin shits. You know, it's funny how when you have an interest in something, and people you meet in other interests have the same interests as you. It's a small world after all. Well, here goes. Fael, it's me . Yeah, THAT Decade from MFFA. Well, this is awkward as hell, huh?


DECADE! HEY! Man, never thought meeting you here!
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DECADE! HEY! Man, never thought meeting you here!


Yeah, this is pretty crazy. I mean, we never talked very much at all on MFFA, but I was aware of you. I don't want to spam the OOC with just jabber, we can talk in PM's for that, but this is a pretty pleasant surprise. It's nice to see someone else on this forum who knows about obscure stuff like MUGEN. And that you're into roleplaying, that's pretty sweet. Have you been on the forum for awhile? I remember seeing your Reviel Hyde name back on Old Guild, but I've been with the Guild since Christmas 2010.
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Alright, lemme explain. Enkidu's ability has two main parts. Presence Detection and Shapeshifting.Presence Detection means he is capable of detecting and analyzing "anything". On what wiz is saying with regards to Bob not being analyzable, that's nonsensical. Literally anything can be analyzed by Enkidu. The sword of rupture, Ea, is a weapon of which "only one can exist," one that even has the property of "cannot be understood" as a core of its profile. Enkidu can understand it and replicate it nonetheless. Besides, your main argument seems to be not that Enkidu can't "understand" Bob, but that he can't replicate him.That's also incorrect. Enkidu is not just a shapeshifter in the sense of changing body. Shapeshifting EX is limitless. Physical, mental, magical, conceptual, and so on. How does he replicate Bob's power? Because his clay takes on the same conceptual properties. If Bob is a manifestation of human emotion, then he is closer to a "concept" than a living being, which is well within Enkidu's ability seeing as things like conceptual weapons are commonplace where he's from. A weapon "made of human emotion" isn't too out there for a Noble Phantasm, so there's no conceptual difference as far as Enkidu's concerned. A sword formed out of the dreams of humanity which loosed a blast of glory formed out of the condensed ideals of man is literally Excalibur's description, and he can replicate WAAAY more than Excalibur. He doesn't need to have the same "power" as what he's replicating to start, because his property is "limitless shapeshifting". That's his nature, changing at not only the material but the immaterial level.So, he's not unique enough because A. Things like him exist in Nasuverse, B. Enkidu can copy "unique" existences like those, and C. Conceptual shapeshifting makes it all irrelevant.Frankly, he would have stayed around the same level as Gil if you didn't try and use OPness to facecrush him. Enkidu counters things like that.On Yuki's comment with even Bob having limits, that's fine. If his power source has a limit, then Enkidu's copy of it will have those same limits. If wiz insists it's limitless though, then so is Enkidu's.


My problem here is the ability to create power out of nothing. And Bob does have his limits, as I've previously stated a bajillion times, but if Enkidu is able to gain all the powers of every being he faces, all their knowledge, and improve on them using previous abilities, then he literally cannot be defeated. It is absolutely impossible for ANYTHING to defeat Enkidu, eve, as he has the power to simply create power from thin air. You have a character there that could never be even challenged by even omnipotent characters, because he'll just copy their omnipotence.

Now, you seem to accuse me of face-crushing you with OPness. Excuse me, but really? You have a character that moves beyond the speed of light, can cut through any physical or magical defense, is capable of unleashing country-destroying attacks with ease, and can wipe out entire planet? Furthermore, Ea's energy, according to you, is supposedly infinite if not limited by Gilgamesh, meaning he can wipe out entire universes if he so wishes. Gaia is not even NEAR that level of power, even without the adaption, the only reason he survived the attack is because he can intelligently counter attacks of a laser type. Enkidu is so overpowered he makes Bob look like an ant in comparison, and yet you say I was ' facecrushing you with OPness' ?

I'm sorry, I get annoyed when I see a set of powers that make one invincible. None of the above was meant as an insult, and I hope you don't take it as such.
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Yeah, this is pretty crazy. I mean, we never talked very much at all on MFFA, but I was aware of you. I don't want to spam the OOC with just jabber, we can talk in PM's for that, but this is a pretty pleasant surprise. It's nice to see someone else on this forum who knows about obscure stuff like MUGEN. And that you're into roleplaying, that's pretty sweet. Have you been on the forum for awhile? I remember seeing your Reviel Hyde name back on Old Guild, but I've been with the Guild since Christmas 2010.


Well, i got on the guild in 2013, i'll send you a PM
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Alright, so your argument focus has changed now, so I'll keep that in mind for this. I guess the point now is Enkidu's powers being too overpowered or not.

Is he overpowered? Oh yeah, of course. Is he invincible and utterly game-breaking? Not in the slightest. There are ways characters can be designed to avoid Enkidu's power, not to mention that Enkidu himself has a couple of fairly striking weaknesses. If you pay attention to what I've said so far, those should be apparent, though for obvious reasons I won't just go blurting them out to a non-GM.

Frankly, Enkidu's just sort of here to battle his best friend. I didn't intend for him to be an active participant, or even engage in much transformation, but when you decided to send a sliver into the fray I had to act in-character. In fact, if you had just let the battle continue, Gilgamesh and Enkidu's fight would have terminated in Gil's victory, because when the two are equal in power Gil's still the "protagonist".

Besides, we have characters with a level of omnipotence Enkidu lacks already present. My claim about your attempted facecrush is that you went into this expecting Gaia to be leagues above Gil and Enkidu, that's all. He's not "invincible", but the issue was that when you sent a sliver in thinking that it would have an edge, you sent out an enemy that Enkidu has probably the best compatibility against out of any other character. Even now, there are ways to beat him, depending on the character. It's up to you to try and find those.

As an apology for apparently annoying you, I won't argue if you decide to have Gaia escape the attempted explosion of him. If you want him to stay and fight, that's fine too, your choice.

Enkidu will stop being relevant relatively soon regardless, as will Gil, though. That'll be explained shortly.
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Hey hogan, can you please respond to my PM's? Im not sure if your ignoring them, are not able to respond, or not seeing or receiving them. Some sort of confirmation would be nice.
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Mtn, I can't always respond to your PM's. Yes, I get them but like I said last time I usually have a Tab open but I'm kind of busy right now with my personal life. It's been a pretty busy weekend. I wish you wouldn't send one every couple of days/hours, when I respond I will respond to you. Yeah I get I sent YOU the PM but you PM'd me with that Idea about conjoined universes first. I don't have time for EVERYTHING.
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Mtn, I can't always respond to your PM's. Yes, I get them but like I said last time I usually have a Tab open but I'm kind of busy right now with my personal life. It's been a pretty busy weekend. I wish you wouldn't send one every couple of days/hours, when I respond I will respond to you. Yeah I get I sent YOU the PM but you PM'd me with that Idea about conjoined universes first. I don't have time for EVERYTHING.

Okay, sorry for being so pushy. Because I have to much time on my hands (cue musical number) I can find it hard to understand people with busier lives. My apologies if I came off as rude.
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Yeah, it's fine. I sent you PM explaining everything.
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Name: Yuno Gasai
Nickname: N/A
Age: 15
Gender: Female
Abilities: Excluding the fact that she has the powers as a Goddess of Time and Space, Yuno is unusually strong for her age, which goes along with her unpredictable mindset when in a violent state. She will always seem to have experience with any type of weapon.
Species: Human / God
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From: Mirai Nikki
Other: This is the 3rd world Yuno that has the memories of the 1st world Yuno in "Mirai Nikki: Redial." She is somewhat more "controllable" than the 1st world Yuno, but still has the overprotective mindset over Yukiteru.
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Name: Yuno GasaiNickname: N/AAge: 15Gender: FemaleAbilities: Excluding the fact that she has the powers as a Goddess of Time and Space, Yuno is unusually strong for her age, which goes along with her unpredictable mindset when in a violent state. She will always seem to have experience with any type of weapon.Species: Human / GodAppearance:From: Mirai NikkiOther: This is the 3rd world Yuno that has the memories of the 1st world Yuno in "Mirai Nikki: Redial." She is somewhat more "controllable" than the 1st world Yuno, but still has the overprotective mindset over Yukiteru.


Shit shit shit shit shit *suicides*
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Name: Yukiteru Amano

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Age: 14 (10,014 God)

Gender: Male

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Yukiteru loves Yuno more than he loves himself.
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Double shit ... Nope nope nope nope nope nope ...
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Yup! Shits gonna go down.
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I'll have a Decepticon guardian check them out. Feel free to try and kill it.
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Looks fairly easy to kill, also I'd like to point out that at this point god like/very powerful characters are beginning to out weigh the others Not exactly sure what this means for the RP but I think that limiting god charcters/very powerful characters will not work well.
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