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[Yog Sothoth]

Revans Exile said
I like Zatanna's outfit sometimes. As a person I only know her from the cartoons and she seemed alright. Magic imo is lame, and most of the time in fiction like comic books is way to overpowered. Heroes are not supposed to be overpowered, they must overcome not just breeze past it like it was some school boy. Why should I root for someone who can blow a thousand men away with a few words?Which is also why I find Superman to be extremely disgusting.

I think you just need to read the right stories, Superman has been challenged many times, not just on a physical level but also on a mental and moral level. the highest selling comic in history was the one where Superman died fighting Doomsday. Magic is just as powerful as any superpower, just read Justice League Dark or any of DC's great supernatural comic series and you'll see why magic is very popular in the DC universe. also Superman is weak against magic which means that if someone hit him with a killing curse then he would die. if you look at Superman's weaknesses, he is not that powerful because his weaknesses balance out his great feats. if you think Superman is a dull character then just watch Superman vs The Elite, that movie really shows how relevant and necessary Superman is to our society. I also highly recommended you read All Star Superman and Superman Red Son, those comics show that Superman is an amazing character. the fact that Superman is still around after 75 years shows how great and iconic of a character he is.

[Revans Exile]

Yog Sothoth said
the highest selling comic in history was the one where Superman died fighting Doomsday.

That is the exact reason why I don't read comics, if Superman was dead he would still be dead. Death is permanent, if it is not permanent it ain't death. I will not support anything that doesn't support permanent death. There is only one exception I will ever make, Phil Coulson from the MCU.

Yog Sothoth said Magic is just as powerful as any superpower, just read Justice League Dark or any of DC's great supernatural comic series and you'll see why magic is very popular in the DC universe.

Not going to happen, see above

Yog Sothoth said if you think Superman is a dull

I don't think he is dull, I think he is a modern day neanderthal. If he is intelligent enough to create robots that are capable of nearly perfectly mimicking him while he is away. Then he is intelligent enough to not be a blunt object when a scalpel is needed, and everything I seen he is the bluntest object ever created.

[Lucian]

Hah. "Everything I've seen about Superman is him being a dumb brute, but I will never read graphic novels, so I'll never know how stupid that sounds."

Superman has lobotomized people with his heat vision. How's that for a scalpel?

[DrewVonAwesome]

@Revans TESTIFY on that first part. I am so sick that the most powerful tool a writer has has been turned into a joke in comic books.

[Omega Man]

If you can't accept characters returning from the dead then comics isn't the medium for you. The only comics characters don't return in is the Ultimate Marvel universe. They've written themselves into a corner now that most of the X-Men, Avengers, etc. are dead....

The new52 introduced a Superman that isn't as perfect a hero as he once was. He's no longer the most experienced, still makes mistakes, and the right amount of raw power can mess Superman up. Not just kryptonite and magic, Superman's mind has been taken over, a rookie Shazam got the best of him, etc....

Without trying to find the exact issues and scenes check out the new animated Justice League War. It's the new origin for the League and gives every member a more youthful image and modern adaption. Don't watch it around kids though, I made the mistake and within minutes civilians were saying Wonder Woman dressed like a whore and the only time a man felt powerful was when he cross dressed as WW LMAO

~KL~

[Mistress Dizzy]

I will admit, the death thing does get really old. It really removes the pathos, the paths that such an event could open. It just removes the sense of consequences from a confrontation. I mean, if the good guy dies, there's less feeling, because they can just revive him with magic/science/religion/superpowers/drugs/clone body/you get the point. It just... really makes things seem meaningless, at the end of it all.

[Omega Man]

The only death that has ever stuck in mainstream comics and not been retconned to my knowledge... Is Spider-man's uncle Ben.

~KL~

[Yog Sothoth]

Revans Exile said
That is the exact reason why I don't read comics, if Superman was dead he would still be dead. Death is permanent, if it is not permanent it ain't death. I will not support anything that doesn't support permanent death. There is only one exception I will ever make, Phil Coulson from the MCU.Not going to happen, see aboveI don't think he is dull, I think he is a modern day neanderthal. If he is intelligent enough to create robots that are capable of nearly perfectly mimicking him while he is away. Then he is intelligent enough to not be a blunt object when a scalpel is needed, and everything I seen he is the bluntest object ever created.

your comment about Coulson tells me that you don't read comics, if you're going to judge something without ever reading it, then it makes criticizing characters pointless because then your basis will lack knowledge. also i don't get your point of calling Superman blunt, if you're saying he's not smart or not complex then you really need to read more about the character before making statements about calling him a neanderthal. just so you know, tons of Marvel characters have been brought back to life after death, it is done in many fictional stories and not just comics. also not all heroes who die come back to life, hell most of the Green Lantern Corps members who die never come back unless there is a change in continuity.

The Kid Lantern said
The only death that has ever stuck in mainstream comics and not been retconned to my knowledge... Is Spider-man's uncle Ben. ~KL~

Jor-El has stayed dead for all of DC's main continuity

[Revans Exile]

The Kid Lantern said If you can't accept characters returning from the dead then comics isn't the medium for you.

Which is why I don't have anything to do with them.

The Kid Lantern said The only comics characters don't return in is the Ultimate Marvel universe. They've written themselves into a corner now that most of the X-Men, Avengers, etc. are dead....

Ultimate is just a retarded version of the original that should be cancelled with all Ultimate characters dying.

The Kid Lantern said The new52 introduced a Superman that isn't as perfect a hero as he once was.

He never was perfect, a perfect version would have stopped every criminal permanently during their first crime before anyone died.

The Kid Lantern said a rookie Shazam got the best of him

So he went from being a big dumb brute to being a big dumber brute beat by a child. That is just hilarious.

The Kid Lantern said , etc.... Without trying to find the exact issues and scenes check out the new animated Justice League War.

Seen it. God Hal sucked in it. Vic Stone was a brat, loved his father though even though he was a dick to his son.

The Kid Lantern said Don't watch it around kids though

I would chop my arm off to keep away from kids on my personal time. I have to see and hear them enough at work to last a life time.

The Kid Lantern said I made the mistake and within minutes civilians were saying Wonder Woman dressed like a whore and the only time a man felt powerful was when he cross dressed as WW LMAO

I love that guy, my favorite scene in any movie ever.

Lucian said Hah. "Everything I've seen about Superman is him being a dumb brute, but I will never read graphic novels, so I'll never know how stupid that sounds.

If you are willing to give me the graphic novels for free then I will gladly read them, but as long as the comic book industry supports lying about death they will not get one penny from me.

Lucian said "Superman has lobotomized people with his heat vision. How's that for a scalpel?

I have seen an intelligent Superman do that from an Earth where all or virtually all Super villains were lobotomized by Superman and the Justice League took over the planet. Now he was a Superman I could love.

[Mistress Dizzy]

*Slow nod* Revan, I'm wondering why you want to be part of an RP based on a comic book universe. You don't seem to like them very much at all.

[Yog Sothoth]

Revans Exile said
Which is why I don't have anything to do with them.Ultimate is just a retarded version of the original that should be cancelled with all Ultimate characters dying.He never was perfect, a perfect version would have stopped every criminal permanently during their first crime before anyone died.So he went from being a big dumb brute to being a big dumber brute beat by a child. That is just hilarious.Seen it. God Hal sucked in it. Vic Stone was a brat, loved his father though even though he was a dick to his son.I would chop my arm off to keep away from kids on my personal time. I have to see and hear them enough at work to last a life time.I love that guy, my favorite scene in any movie ever.If you are willing to give me the graphic novels for free then I will gladly read them, but as long as the comic book industry supports lying about death they will not get one penny from me.I have seen an intelligent Superman do that from an Earth where all or virtually all Super villains were lobotomized by Superman and the Justice League took over the planet. Now he was a Superman I could love.

you must really dislike DBZ as well right?

[Mistress Dizzy]

Yog Sothoth said
you must really dislike DBZ as well right?

*giggles* DBZ is campy as all get out, though.

[Revans Exile]

Yog Sothoth said your comment about Coulson tells me that you don't read comics

Not a single one that I pay for. Even someone buys them and gives them to me I will read them. Haven't gotten one since I was like 6.

Yog Sothoth said if you're going to judge something without ever reading it, then it makes criticizing characters pointless because then your basis will lack knowledge.

I criticize what I know which is the cartoons and movies where death is permanent or doesn't happen at all. There was one movie that was based on Superman dying and coming back fighting his clone, that is the only one I didn't watch.

Yog Sothoth said also i don't get your point of calling Superman blunt, if you're saying he's not smart or not complex then you really need to read more about the character before making statements about calling him a neanderthal.

That is exactly how he is is the cartoons and movies. A big dumb brute who fights like he is a blunt object that throws his brains out the window the minute it is time to fight.

Yog Sothoth said just so you know, tons of Marvel characters have been brought back to life after death, it is done in many fictional stories and not just comics.

Which is why I don't buy Marvel either or anything else that cheapens death. I loved the Buffy the Vampire Slayer tv show, they killed Buffy, that was the last time I watched the show, I refuse to watch a single minute of any episode that takes place after Buffy's death.

Mistress Dizzy said
*Slow nod* Revan, I'm wondering why you want to be part of an RP based on a comic book universe. You don't seem to like them very much at all.

I like the cartoon and movie versions. Where death is permanent or doesn't happen.

Any and all characters I play are based on cartoon or movie versions not the comic versions.

Yog Sothoth said you must really dislike DBZ as well right?

Never seen one second of it, wouldn't know anything about someone dying and coming back to life. Don't know a single character on the show. I don't dislike it, I don't like it, I don't have any feelings at all about it.

[Yog Sothoth]

Mistress Dizzy said
*giggles* DBZ is campy as all get out, though.

still it was a great show lol He-Man was incredibly campy but people still loved the cartoon, same with many 80's cartoons. i think we get to have a lot more variety in stories if we aren't picky about what's good and what isn't good. I like reading dark stories, but i don't mind having a laugh when reading my comics, and the more diverse in stories and themes you get with the genre then the more people will like the comic book. me personally, i would pick any magical based or space based hero over characters like Batman and Ironman any day because i like the sense of escape and wonder that comes with magic and space adventures. for me, unless the hero has superpowers or fights aliens and demons and has adventures on a different world, I will not like it as much as stories about characters like Green Lantern.

Revans Exile said
Never seen one second of it, wouldn't know anything about someone dying and coming back to life. Don't know a single character on the show. I don't dislike it, I don't like it, I don't have any feelings at all about it.

if i was a DBZ fan, i would have shouted heresy lol

[Lucian]

Mistress Dizzy said
*Slow nod* Revan, I'm wondering why you want to be part of an RP based on a comic book universe. You don't seem to like them very much at all.

A thousand times this.

Also, if you're claiming that monetary issues are the cause of your ignorance on the subject of graphic novels, I have a word for you: Piracy.

[Divine Darkness]

Justice League Unlimited introduced me to a lot of DC characters I never knew existed before because until then I was only familiar with the big names. I was never a fan of Iron Man as a character until Robert Downey Jr played him. Never much cared for Superman, but, again, I enjoyed the movies & cartoons.Nowadays I don't pick up many graphic novels, and I refuse to by single issue comics because they're too dang expensive.

Today you don't have to read comics to know about and love superheroes. There will always be cartoons. There will always be movies.

[Omega Man]

I'm getting off the ipad now to work on the opening OOC and IC posts in the titanpad if anybody wants to move any convos there. JLU did an incredible job introducing more characters in the DCU stable. If DC ever gets a wider scoped Lego game that isn't all about Batman I could see it being loosely based on JLU. Lego Marvel had over 150 characters. I wouldn't be upset at DC if it's parent company WB didn't make the Lego Marvel game....

~KL~

[Yog Sothoth]

The Kid Lantern said
I'm getting off the ipad now to work on the opening OOC and IC posts in the titanpad if anybody wants to move any convos there. JLU did an incredible job introducing more characters in the DCU stable. If DC ever gets a wider scoped Lego game that isn't all about Batman I could see it being loosely based on JLU. Lego Marvel had over 150 characters. I wouldn't be upset at DC if it's parent company WB didn't make the Lego Marvel game....~KL~

i really loved the Justice League cartoons as well. so far my favorite comic book TV show is Young Justice, the reason why is because i liked how they had an overall storyline being shown throughout the series, and I really liked how they were very character focused when it came to the main cast. also i really loved how Dick Gryson and Wally West were portrayed in the show. and the second i heard that Conner was going to be one of the main characters, I instantly knew i was going to love it, Conner is one of my favorite young heroes in comics.

[Mistress Dizzy]

The Kid Lantern said
I'm getting off the ipad now to work on the opening OOC and IC posts in the titanpad if anybody wants to move any convos there. JLU did an incredible job introducing more characters in the DCU stable. If DC ever gets a wider scoped Lego game that isn't all about Batman I could see it being loosely based on JLU. Lego Marvel had over 150 characters. I wouldn't be upset at DC if it's parent company WB didn't make the Lego Marvel game....~KL~

Can you relink to the titanpad? I'll join you.

[Omega Man]

YJ2020 Pad

~KL~